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RE: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements
by Shawn L 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

With the current shortages and lead times, I almost feel like I did back in the beginning of my career --- Then it was "what can we do with what we can afford" now it's more like "What can we do with what we have (or can actually get)"? Shawn -----Original Message----- From: "Adam Thompson" <athompson(a)merlin.mb.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 12:36pm To: "Mark Tinka" <mark(a)tinka.africa>, "nanog(a)nanog.org" <nanog(a)nanog.org> Subject: RE: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements [Not specific to the Juniper EoLs...] I sort of agree with Mark: I've been sampling a fairly wide variety of sources in various parts of the global supply chain, and my synthesis of what they're saying is that we probably won't *consistently* have the ready availability of "stuff" (both electronic and not) we had pre-pandemic, for the rest of my career (10-15yrs), and maybe not in the lifetimes of anyone reading this today, either. Whether those sources are accurate, their interpretation is accurate, my synthesis is accurate, whether I'm listening to the right people in the first place... all debatable. I sure hope the above conclusion is wrong. One possible upside: it might slow down the incessant upgrade hamster-wheel we're all running on? Imagine having enough time to do your job thoroughly and properly... Yes, I know I'm dreaming :-). Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services MERLIN 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) https://www.merlin.mb.ca Chat with me on Teams: athompson(a)merlin.mb.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+athompson=merlin.mb.ca(a)nanog.org> On Behalf > Of Mark Tinka > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:19 AM > To: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements > > > > On 6/14/22 18:06, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote: > > > Saw this coming a mile away. With chips and technology progressing > despite ability to manufacture, I’m certain many are going to do this. > > All this will do is keep these boxes off the open market, which will > simply bump up open market prices, with no incentive for the majority > of > folk to buy directly from the OEM. > > I suspect supply chain will improve within the next 12 months, but > then > regress and hit a massive crunch from around Q4'23 onward. How long > for, > I can't say... > > Mark.

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PC Picks: NANOG 85 + N86 Call for Presentations
by Nanog News 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

*PC Picks: NANOG 85 * *Program Committee Picks Their Favorite Talks at NANOG 85* *Hours of ground-breaking industry talks, right at your fingertips!* Not sure where to start in watching your recap of NANOG 85? Don't fret. We saved you the time and asked the NANOG Programming Committee (PC) to select their favorite talks. *READ NOW <https://www.nanog.org/stories/pc-picks-nanog-85/>* *NANOG 86: Call for Presentations! * *NANOG PC is Now Accepting Proposals for NANOG 86 * NANOG 86 will take place in Hollywood, CA, on 17-19 Oct 2022. *Requested Topics: * - Network Automation - Tutorials (IPv6, BGP, Segment Routing, DNS) - Security (developments in, problems/solutions, various protocols) The PC is looking to schedule 1,020 minutes of content for NANOG 86 and has confirmed 135 minutes already - so don't wait! *LEARN MORE <https://www.nanog.org/program/call-presentations/>* *Survey: Next Steps for COVID-19* Please take a quick minute to complete our one-question survey regarding the next steps for COVID-19 and attendance at upcoming meetings. *TAKE SURVEY <https://www.surveymonkey.com/survey-taken/?sm=skoCrzKZ19DDmu4w_2FU1ZwNefwmq…>*

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Hardware & Software IPv6 Only
by Alejandro Acosta 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

Hello, Sorry for the noise. Hopefully this is a good place to ask. Are there any IPv6 Only hardware you are aware of?. And IPv6 Only software too? If so and you don't mind you can contact me off-list. Thanks, Alejandro,

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de facto standard or convention to IRR AS-SET representing BGP Roles of rfc9234
by Douglas Fischer 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

I begin my questioning by mentioning the recent moves towards standardization of BGP Roles made formalized initially by RFC 9234, and also by what is proposed with the ASPA that we should see soon. And from what I can see, it makes a lot of sense to have an IRR representation through AS-SET of the list of ASNs that you would have a neighborhood relationship in each role. This is done with the objective of being able to make public (if desired) the type of relationship that each ASN with its Peers, and also to be able to build, and publish (if desired) in a better elaborated way the Routing Policies of each ASN. In view of this, I was wondering if: Any kind of standardization for the naming of these AS-SETs that would represent this group of peers had already been considered? Something that came to my mind would be to use the strings proposed by RFC9234 for the IANA REGISTRY and use it as a suffix for the AS-SET name. AS<AS_Number>:AS-ROLE-<Suffix_String_of_Role_Defined_on_rfc9234> Exemplifying: as-set: AS65123:AS-ROLE-PROVIDER descr: ASN list of Transit Upstream(Providers) of AS65123. as-set: AS65123:AS-ROLE-CUSTOMER descr: ASN list of Transit Downstream(CUSTOMER) of AS65123. as-set: AS65123:AS-ROLE-PEER descr: ASN list of Networks that AS65123 do some kind of peering. as-set: AS65123:AS-ROLE-RS descr: ASN list of Route-Servers with which AS65123 has a BGP neighborhood. as-set: AS65123:AS-ROLE-RS-CLIENT descr: ASN list of Route-Server Clients the route-servers of AS65123. Any thoughts or considerations on this? -- Douglas Fernando Fischer Engº de Controle e Automação

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AS3352
by John Von Essen 28 Jun '22

28 Jun '22

If anyone from AS3352 (Telefonica Espana) is on list, please contact me off-list. We’ve detected a problem with geolocation (possibly your resolvers) sending a lot of traffic to the west coast US when it should be going to Europe. Thanks John

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Quadranet Abuse Contacts
by Christopher Munz-Michielin 28 Jun '22

28 Jun '22

Hey nanog, Does anyone have a good contact for Quadranet's abuse department? They are announcing one of our prefixes and it's been a week after emailing their abuse@ email address and creating a ticket but no movement calls to their support line have been less then helpful as well. Replies on list or off list are fine. Thanks!

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Reminder to Submit Presentations for NANOG 86
by Cat Gurinsky 28 Jun '22

28 Jun '22

NANOG Community, The NANOG Program Committee (PC) would like to remind you that we are accepting proposals for in-person or live remote presentations at all sessions of NANOG 86, a hybrid meeting, taking place in Hollywood, California on 17-19 Oct 2022. Below is a summary of key details and dates from the Call For Presentations on the NANOG website, which can be found at https://www.nanog.org/program/call-presentations/. Given by many of the industry’s top minds, presentations at NANOG meetings are meant to spark the imagination, encourage dialogue, and drive new solutions to our greatest networking challenges. Presentations may cover current technologies, soon-to-be deployed technologies, and industry innovation. Vendors are welcome to submit talks which cover relevant technologies and capabilities, but presentations should not be promotional, or discuss proprietary solutions. Requested Topics: Based on feedback from our survey results, we have seen numerous requests for the following topics: - Network Automation - Tutorials (IPv6, BGP, Segment Routing, DNS) - Security (developments in, problems/solutions, various protocols of). We are looking to schedule 1,020 minutes of content for NANOG 86, and have confirmed 135 minutes already - so don’t wait! Presentation abstracts and draft slides should be submitted no later than Monday, 15 Aug 2022 to be considered for NANOG 86. . The primary speaker, moderator, or author should submit a presentation proposal and abstract via the Program Committee Tool at: https://www.nanog.org/meetings/submit-presentation/ - Sign in with your Profile Account - Select the type of talk you propose to present, and complete the form Timeline for submission and proposal review: - Submitter enters abstract (and draft slides if possible) in the Program Committee Tool prior to the deadline for slide submission. - PC performs initial review and assigns a “shepherd” to help develop the submission — typically within 2 weeks. - Submitter develops draft slides of talk if not already submitted with the initial proposal. Please submit initial draft slides early — the PC does not evaluate submissions until draft slides are available for review. NANOG Staff is available to assist with slide templates upon request from the submitter. - Panel and Track submissions should provide a topic list and intended/confirmed participants in the abstract. - PC reviews the slides and continues to work with Submitter as needed to develop the topic. - FINAL SUBMISSION DEADLINE Draft presentation slides should be submitted prior to the published deadline for slides (15 Aug 2022). - PC evaluates submissions to determine presentations for the agenda (posted on 3 Oct 2022). - Agenda assembled and posted. - Submitters notified. - Final presentation slides must be submitted prior to the published deadline for slides (10 Oct 2022 for in person + live remote presentations). If you think you have an interesting topic but want feedback or suggestions for developing an idea into a presentation, please email the PC ( nanogpc(a)nanog.org) and a representative will respond to you in a timely manner. Otherwise, submit your talk, tutorial, track, or panel proposal to the Program Committee Tool at your earliest convenience. We look forward to reviewing your submission! NANOG 86 Calendar of Events Date Event/Deadline 27 Jun 2022 CFP Reminder Announcement 18 Jul 2022 CFP Reminder 2 Announcement 15 Aug 2022 DRAFT Presentation Slides Due 19 Sep 2022 Topics List Published 3 Oct 2022 Meeting Agenda Published 10 Oct 2022 Final Slides DUE TBD Remote Presenter Tech Rehearsal 16 Oct 2022 On-Site Lightning Talk Submissions Open Final slides for presentations must be submitted by Monday, 10 Oct 2022. Materials received after that date may be updated on the website after the completion of the conference. We look forward to seeing you in October! Sincerely, Cat Gurinsky Program Committee Chair Sent on behalf of the NANOG PC ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cat Gurinsky cat(a)nanog.org C: 650-515-9177 Chair of the NANOG Program Committee Senior Network Engineer, Apple Inc. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Imperva Contact
by Joshua Pool 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

Anyone have a point of contact for imperva? Regards, Josh

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What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?
by Michael Thomas 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/23/tech/spacex-dish-fcc-spectrum-scn/index.html Mike

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Reporting Comcast outside plant issues?
by Justin Streiner 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

Does anyone here have a contact at Comcast for reporting outside plant issues that are not (at the moment) service-affecting? I am not a Comcast customer, and they make it nearly impossible for non-customers to reach them unless you're signing up for service. There is a long coax span (2-300 feetthat has come off of a pair of utility poles and is laying on the ground near my house. I moved it off of the road to keep it from getting run over, but reaching anyone at Comcast to get the cable re-attached to the poles has been difficult. Any insight anyone (off-list is fine) could offer would be appreciated. Thank you jms

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