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RFC 2468
by Rodney Joffe 21 Oct '20

21 Oct '20

It is especially fitting whenever the NANOG/ARIN joint meetings occur in the same week that we “remember IANA”. As time has gone on, fewer and fewer of us actually know who J. Postel is - that name that appears at the end of so many RFC’s we refer to every day. The same person who also guided the management of names and numbers in the “early” days of this grand experiment we’re still struggling to get “right”. Today (Friday, October 16) is 22 years since Jon Postel passed away. I won’t start to list the rest of the pioneers we’ve lost since then - its obviously getting longer and longer. But I think its worth pointing “newcomers" at Vint’s RFC2468 (https://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.txt) as the starting point for them (you) to understand the importance of Jon’s legacy as a moral compass to help guide some of the decisions being made or ignored during this week. And obviously other weeks and decisions that follow. Jon was my mentor, colleague, business partner, and friend. And along with his other friends still on this list, I miss him a lot. It hasn’t been the same without him. /rlj

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FTTX Consulting
by ahmed.dalaali＠hrins.net 21 Oct '20

21 Oct '20

If anyone has experience in FTTX network design can reach me off-list. The suggested design is for nearly 200K subscribers. Ahmed

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IETF I-D: "Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers" (Fwd: [v6ops] WGLC on draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops)
by Fernando Gont 20 Oct '20

20 Oct '20

Folks, FYI. P.S.: The relevant IETF wg list is: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops Thanks, Fernando -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [v6ops] WGLC on draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:35:34 -0700 From: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf(a)gmail.com> To: IPv6 Operations <v6ops(a)ietf.org> I'm opening a two week WGLC on draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops-01.txt. This draft started in 2015, and was set aside for a while. We took it as a working group draft in July with some additional authors, it has been recently updated in response to issues raised, and the question before the house is whether it is ready for archival state - to become an RFC. There are a number of questions: - do we agree with the language? (there are probably nits to be cleaned up) - do we agree with the concepts as stated? - do we agree with the direction the draft takes us? I think the draft could use a thorough review, and having said that, am asking for volunteers. You don't have to tell me, per se; do the review and post it to the mailing list. Two weeks gets us to November 2. _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list v6ops(a)ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops

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Cogent Layer 2
by Mike Hammett 20 Oct '20

20 Oct '20

Are any legitimate beefs with Cogent limited to their IP policies, BGP session charges, and peering disputes? Meaning, would using them for layer 2 be reasonable? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

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Virginia voter registration down due to cable cut
by Sean Donelan 20 Oct '20

20 Oct '20

On the last day of Virginia voter registration, the state-wide voter registration system experienced a cable cut disrupting access to the state-wide database system. Absent clear and convincing evidence otherwise, the problems will likely be caused by the usual stupid stuff. VITA @VITAagency A fiber cut near Rt. 10 in Chester near the Commonwealth Enterprise Solutions Center (CESC) is impacting data circuits and virtual private network (VPN) connectivity for multiple Commonwealth agencies. VITA @VITAagency Technicians are on site and working to repair the cut; updates will be provided as work progresses.

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A study on community-triggered updates in BGP
by Jakob Heitz (jheitz) 20 Oct '20

20 Oct '20

IOS-XR has duplicate update suppression logic for EBGP sessions, not for IBGP sessions. If you are using EBGP and seeing a fault in the duplicate update suppression logic in IOS-XR, please let me know configs and details of the experiment. Regards, Jakob. -----Original Message----- Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 18:35:58 -0700 From: Thomas Krenc <tkrenc(a)nps.edu> Dear NANOG, As a team of researchers from NPS and TU Berlin, we are investigating the impact of BGP community attributes on the update behavior between ASes. We find that when a route is associated with multiple distinct community attributes it does not only lead to multiple announcement at the tagging AS, but also at neighboring ASes, if communities are not filtered properly. This behavior is wide-spread. In order to better understand our observations, we have performed a series of laboratory experiments using Cisco IOS, Junos OS, as well as the BIRD daemon. We find that - by default - all tested routers generate announcements with changing community attributes, even when other attributes do not change. In addition, when communities are filtered at egress, Cisco und BIRD send duplicate announcements (Juniper does not). Since our findings are limited to observations in public data as well as few router implementations, we would like to share our research and kindly ask you to have a look at: ??? https://www.cmand.org/communityexploration/ There, we provide some resources documenting our research, as well as open questions. We greatly appreciate any feedback and insights you can offer. Also, please don't hesitate to contact us directly: ??? communityexploration AT cmand DOT org best regards Thomas Krenc Postdoctoral Researcher Naval Postgraduate School

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Recent List Spam
by Bryan Fields 19 Oct '20

19 Oct '20

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Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations [ID #5475871x3]
by Brielle 19 Oct '20

19 Oct '20

---- DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE ---- Assigned to: BuyGoods Support Anyone know what the hell this "BuyGoods" crap is on some of the NANOG messages? On 10/19/2020 9:55 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > BuyGoods > BuyGoods Logo > > > BuyGoods Support > > > > > *Colton Conor* started this conversation > Monday, October 19th, 2020, 11:55am EDT -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group https://u51012.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=kruC0fnA4Hpw17IEn3t97jERGp4RfeN… / https://u51012.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=kruC0fnA4Hpw17IEn3t97o-2By2W-2B… I haven't tried one myself, but Dasan Zhone has the M2400 and M3000. Basically, a whitebox with IP Infusion code on it. New, I think the price point is sub $2000 to $4000 new. That's a ton of ports for that price point. Anyone tried these yet?https://u51012.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=EhPlf17glKOZNVwhASoWuDgg-2F… On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 3:38 AM tim(a)pelican.org wrote: On Saturday, 17 October, 2020 00:41, "Tony Wicks" said: > Well, there is always the MX104 (if you want redundancy) or MX80 if you > dont. That will give you 80gig wire speed just dont load it up with > more than one full table. Bear in mind that the MX80 is now in the EoL process, you have Team BuyGoods ===============================================================================

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cheap MPLS router recommendations [ID #5475871x3]
by Colton Conor 19 Oct '20

19 Oct '20

---- DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE ---- Assigned to: BuyGoods Support I haven't tried one myself, but Dasan Zhone has the M2400 and M3000. Basically, a whitebox with IP Infusion code on it. New, I think the price point is sub $2000 to $4000 new. That's a ton of ports for that price point. Anyone tried these yet?https://u51012.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=EhPlf17glKOZNVwhASoWuDgg-2F… On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 3:38 AM tim(a)pelican.org wrote: On Saturday, 17 October, 2020 00:41, "Tony Wicks" said: > Well, there is always the MX104 (if you want redundancy) or MX80 if you > dont. That will give you 80gig wire speed just dont load it up with > more than one full table. Bear in mind that the MX80 is now in the EoL process, you have Team BuyGoods ===============================================================================

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Ohio - Telecom Construction [ID #5475851x3]
by Josh Luthman 19 Oct '20

19 Oct '20

---- DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE ---- Assigned to: BuyGoods Support Can you be a bit more specific? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 5:34 AM Rod Beck wrote: Please contact me off-list if you have knowledge regarding this subject. Thanks and Be Well, Roderick. Roderick Beck VP of Business Development United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com New York City & Budapest rod.beck(a)unitedcablecompany.com Budapest: 36-70-605-5144 NJ: 908-452-8183 Team BuyGoods ===============================================================================

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