July 2019 - Test - lists.nanog.org

Re: 44.192.0.0/10 sale
by Brian Kantor 19 Jul '19

19 Jul '19

Because questions have arisen here that are well answered by a short series of postings from the 44net mailing list, at the request of the author [Phil Karn] and others, I am reposting them here. - Brian From: Phil Karn <karn(a)ka9q.net> Subject: [44net] 44.192.0.0/10 sale Hello all, I've not been active here, but some of you may remember me as the guy who first got TCP/IP going on amateur packet radio way back in 1986. At one time, my name was registered as the owner of the block. This makes me one of a VERY small group of people with any arguable personal property interest in network 44. And yes, 25% of this space, which is VERY unlikely to ever be used by hams, has been sold to Amazon. Rather than try to personally profit from this, we all readily agreed to place the *entire* proceeds of this sale into a 501(c)(3) charity chartered to support amateur digital radio and related developments. No one is buying a yacht or a mansion. As a tax-exempt charity, our tax returns and related documents will be publicly available so you can see what is being done. Like the rest of the amateur community, all of you will have the opportunity to apply for grants and do good things for amateur radio with them. 73, Phil _________________________________________ On 7/18/19 21:25, Gavin Rogers wrote: > On 19/07/2019 12:19 pm, Phil Karn wrote: >> Like the rest of the amateur community, all of you >> will have the opportunity to apply for grants and do good things for >> amateur radio with them. > I don't know much about US-registered charities and tax law, but will > this include amateurs and clubs located outside of the US? Sure. We'd like to cast the net as widely as possible for worthy grant recipients. Doesn't matter where they are in the world, as long as the purpose is consistent with our charter, which is to benefit amateur digital radio and related development. That's a worldwide activity. I suppose US legal restrictions on dealing with certain "pariah" countries might come into play (e.g., North Korea) but that's a very short list and there isn't much ham radio in them anyway. We're already thinking about things like: Educational grants to students who are hams; Existing amateur radio 501(c)(3) organizations; Development of *freely available* technology: hardware, software, protocols, etc Field trials, demonstrations, pilot projects, educational outreach, etc; This list is NOT exhaustive by any means, and in fact we'll be looking for good ideas from anyone who has them. We want to be as transparent about this as possible. Again, though we might have been able to establish a *personal* property claim over network 44, we all quickly decided to not open that can of worms and instead sign everything over to the ARDC. Face it, given who we are we'd probably just spend the money on ham radio development ourselves. This is a much better way to do it. 73, Phil _________________________________________ On 7/18/19 21:38, David Ranch wrote: > > Wow! This is rather big news but has also been VERY opaque to the > AMPR community. I'm also surprised that the sale has already occurred > and not auctioned off to say the highest bidder? Since ARDC is a > corporation, when will we learn about the sale price and how this > money will be *really* spent? > > The bottom of https://www.ampr.org/amprnet/ does cover a little of > this but it's all too vague for my tastes. I didn't like the secrecy either, but it was necessary given the nature of the process. We are precluded by the terms of the sale from giving precise figures at this time, but suffice it to say that we (Brian, actually) worked *very* hard to get the best possible price. I am fully satisfied that he did. Everyone with any arguable legal property interest in 44/8 was fully informed and consented to give up that interest and have it benefit ham radio instead. I didn't even think twice about it. Remember, this is an IRS 501(c)(3) charity, which means there are strict rules on transparency, how money can be spent and how it must be accounted for. Tax returns and other documents are public information. One of the most important rules for a non-profit, which the IRS takes pretty seriously, is a prohibition on "self dealing". This is how Donald Trump's personal charity got shut down. 73, Phil _________________________________________ On 7/18/19 22:08, David Ranch wrote: > >> I have so many words for the conspiracy theorists and negative >> naysayers, >> but Ill hold that back and not contribute to the shitstorm. > > My main concern is what will stop the ARDC board from selling the next > 25% or 50% of 44 space? The fact that, unlike 44.192.0.0/10, it's being used by hams? I personally approved the sale on two conditions: 1) The block wasn't being used by hams and had no viable prospect of being used by hams. [Editor's note: minor correction: 44.224.0.0/15 *was* in use as an unrouted internal network by a German ham radio society; they have been given a routable block of /15 and were in the process of renumbering to it.] 2) All of the proceeds went to a non-profit to benefit amateur digital development and related efforts. I am not an expert in the IP address market, but from everything I saw and heard I am fully satisfied that Brian did the best possible job in getting the best price for the /10 that was sold. It was explained to us that a /10 would be more than twice as valuable as two /11s or four /12s and so on, and this seemed perfectly logical to me. Remember, IPv4 addresses won't be valuable forever. IPv6 is developing slowly, but it *is* developing. I for one have long been interested in getting IPv6 much more widely used within amateur radio (as well as the larger Internet) as even the full 44/8 block was woefully inadequate for doing a lot of the things that could and should be done. 73, Phil

5 4

Multi-day GNSS Galileo outage -- Civilization survives
by Sean Donelan 19 Jul '19

19 Jul '19

So much for the disaster scenarioes about a global clamity, planes falling out the sky, the end of civil society because a global navigation satellite system fails. The European Galileo GNSS was down for days, and life went on. I guess disasters exercise planners now need a new technical failure for table top exercises. • NAGU number 2019025 on 2019-07-11 14:45 on the potential service degradation; • NAGU number 2019026 on 2019-07-13 20:15 on the service outage; • NAGU number 2019027 on 2019-07-18 08:20 on the service recovery; https://www.gsa.europa.eu/newsroom/news/galileo-initial-services-have-now-b…

4 3

SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC
by Sean Donelan 19 Jul '19

19 Jul '19

I don't think SHAKEN/STIR really addresses the root problems with spoofing phone numbers, anymore than any of the BGP proposals for spoofing IP addresses. Nevertheless, the FCC wants to be seen as doing something. So Chairman Pai is having a summit to show all the progress. On Thursday, July 11, 2019, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai will convene a summit focused on the industry’s implementation of SHAKEN/STIR, a caller ID authentication framework to combat illegal robocalls and caller ID spoofing. Chairman Pai expects major voice service providers to deploy the SHAKEN/STIR framework this year. The summit will showcase the progress that major providers have made toward reaching that goal and provide an opportunity to identify any challenges to implementation and how best to overcome them. https://www.fcc.gov/SHAKENSTIRSummit Date: Thursday, July 11, 2019 Time: Unknown, the public announcement did not include the time. Usually these summits start around 9am EDT. Location: Commission Meeting Room at FCC Headquarters, 445 12th Street, S.W. Washington, D.C. 20554. It will also be streamed at the FCC’s web page at www.fcc.gov/live.

14 51

Spam
by Jay R. Ashworth 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

Someone tell Trevor Walford at ECG in Valdosta that scraping the list for addresses to spam is a suboptimal approach? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra(a)baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274

1 1

Twitter security team?
by Ken Gilmour 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

Anyone on the list know how to contact the Twitter Security team? Seems the new update allows an attacker to modify other people's tweets. The "Hackerone" form for reporting a vulnerability is the wrong form and the "My account has been hacked" form is also the wrong form. The whole site has been compromised, I have evidence and can't contact anyone due to the lack of an appropriate form and the fact that the security@ email address doesn't work. Thanks!

6 8

Cisco wifi signal fluctuations
by Vikash Sorout 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

On Cisco wifi, we started seeing signal fluctuations since 1-2 months. The only change that was done to change windows user preference from 2.4 GHz Radio to 5 GHz radio through a windows group policy change. But this was done in response to the problem reported by certain users.We have lately discovered that some of the neighboring APs opt for same frequency band at 5.0 GHz and also at 2.4 GHz. Reboot of these APs have not helped to choose different frequency band by these APs.Channel assignment is set to be auto and we cannot change it to static though we are aware of definitive AP positions at all floors in campus. The reason being that the controller serves APAC and we do not know the definite / relative positions of different APs.The wireless survey conducted before (when there was no complaint on wifi) did show presence of co-channel interferences in certain areas, but SNR was seen to be very good in all areas of all the floors. For skype, we have call drop or call noisy complain from users across the three floors irrespective of if they are connected to wifi or LAN. We are using Cisco WLC 5520 controller. Regards,Vikash SoroutHand-phone : +91-9013866229Email: vikash_sorout(a)yahoo.com

2 1

Colo in Africa
by Ken Gilmour 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

Hi Folks, I work for a Security Analytics org and we're looking to build a small POP in Africa. I am pretty clueless about the region so I was wondering if you could help guide me in the right direction for research? The challenges: 1. Network needs to be able to receive millions of small PPS (as opposed to serving smaller numbers of larger files). 2. Can't be cloud (need bare metal servers / colo). We use the full capacity of each server, all the time. 3. Must have good connectivity to most of the rest of Africa 4. We can initially only have one POP This is not like a normal website that we can just host on "any old provider", the requirements are very different. Is there a good location where we could either rent bare metal servers (something like Internap - preferred) or colocate servers within Africa that can serve most of the region? "Good" is defined as an area with stable connectivity and power, no legal restrictions on things like encryption, and good latency (sub 100ms) to the rest of Africa. Our two closest POPs are in Singapore and The Netherlands, so I'd like something closer to the middle that can serve the rest of Africa. Middle East will be deployed after Africa. I hope this is the right place to ask. Thanks! Ken

23 52

Fiber providers - Englewood / Centennial Colorado
by JASON BOTHE 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

Hi all Just curious if you know of any fiber providers other than CL or Zayo in the Englewood/Centennial area. Having a really tough time finding routes that avoid the Solarium at Quebec / E Orchard as well as 910 15th St. Seems there are so many single points of failure and collapsed routes that all lead to these two locations to get diverse long haul. Many thanks. J~

3 3

Antennas in the data center
by Robert Webb 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

Anyone out there deal with data center design? Looking for any info available which provides guidelines on putting antennas, like LTE booster, in the data center.

8 11

Performance metrics used in commercial BGP route optimizers
by Dimeji Fayomi 17 Jul '19

17 Jul '19

Hi, I'm doing a research on BGP route optimisation and the performance metrics used by commercial route optimizer appliances to select better path to a prefix. I would appreciate any information about the performance metrics used in commercial BGP route optimizers, white papers or any other document that describes how these metrics are measured and collected by commercial route optimizers. Thanks -- Dimeji Fayomi

14 23