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Re: 44/8
by Scott Weeks 22 Jul '19

22 Jul '19

> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:02 PM Jerry Cloe <jerry(a)jtcloe.net> wrote: > > > There's already widespread use (abuse ?) of DOD /8's. > > T-Mobile commonly assigns 26/8 space (and others) to > > customers and nat's it. > --- cb.list6(a)gmail.com wrote: > From: Ca By <cb.list6(a)gmail.com> > > My understanding is that is not currently commonly the > case > https://www.worldipv6launch.org/apps/ipv6week/measurement/images/graphs/T-M… > --------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:31 PM Scott Weeks <surfer(a)mauigateway.com> wrote: > Did they renumber (IPv4) out of that space? Or are > they just not continuing to expand into it? --- cb.list6(a)gmail.com wrote: From: Ca By <cb.list6(a)gmail.com> They stopped using ipv4 assigned for handsets for most cases with 464xlat <snip> -------------------------------------- Ah, OK. I didn't realize they were just using it for handsets. I thought the address space was used elsewhere. When orgs do this the ugliness of squatting sticks to the org seemingly forever like stink on sh!+ scott

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Re: 44/8
by Scott Weeks 22 Jul '19

22 Jul '19

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:02 PM Jerry Cloe <jerry(a)jtcloe.net> wrote: > There's already widespread use (abuse ?) of DOD /8's. > T-Mobile commonly assigns 26/8 space (and others) to > customers and nat's it. --- cb.list6(a)gmail.com wrote: From: Ca By <cb.list6(a)gmail.com> My understanding is that is not currently commonly the case https://www.worldipv6launch.org/apps/ipv6week/measurement/images/graphs/T-M… --------------------------------------------------- Did they renumber (IPv4) out of that space? Or are they just not continuing to expand into it? scott

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RE: 44/8
by Scott Weeks 22 Jul '19

22 Jul '19

From:Michel Py <michel.py(a)tsisemi.com> As an extension of RFC1918, it would have solved the questionable and nevertheless widespread squatting of 30/8 and other un-announced DoD blocks because 10/8 is not big enough for some folks. --- jerry(a)jtcloe.net wrote: From: Jerry Cloe <jerry(a)jtcloe.net> There's already widespread use (abuse ?) of DOD /8's. T-Mobile commonly assigns 26/8 space (and others) to customers and nat's it. -------------------------------------------------- I participated in cutting Verizon Hawaii's assets into a standalone network for Hawaiian Telcom in 2005. They used 113/8 all over the place. I worked at HT for 5 years after that, left for nine years and am now back and I am STILL dealing with that crap! scott

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AS3549 NOC contacts? Another BGP hijack
by Dmitry A.Deineka 22 Jul '19

22 Jul '19

Greetings, Unfortunately, ncc(a)gblx.net is not accepting emails anymore. Someone from AS3549 announced one of our network (more specific route) 46.28.67.0/24. It's not major impact but it's like that at least RIPE whois has outdated contact information about responsive persons. Can someone kindly share contact email of AS3549 (Centurylink?) NOC or other direct contacts? Regards, Dmitry -- Dmitry A.Deineka ITLDC

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Contact for Crown Media in California
by Mike M 21 Jul '19

21 Jul '19

Hi, Looking for a contact number for Crown Media in Studio City, CA. Need access for a technician into that location. Thanks Mike Mackley Crown Castle Fiber

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Anycast operators
by Mehmet Akcin 21 Jul '19

21 Jul '19

hey there, I am looking to talk to anycast based service operators dns and non-dns service operators to understand how virtualization is used in new generation anycast deployments. if you are running anycast based service (root-servers, tlds, etc.) please contact me offlist. mehmet

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Bgpmon alternatives?
by TJ Trout 19 Jul '19

19 Jul '19

Any simple and easy bgpmon alternatives you guys could recommend?

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Microsoft Outlook Issue
by Nathanael Catangay Cariaga 19 Jul '19

19 Jul '19

This might be an off topic since this is a confirmed issue with Microsoft but I'm just wondering how vast are the affected users on this issue. west coast user here. -nathan

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Re: 44.192.0.0/10 sale
by Brian Kantor 19 Jul '19

19 Jul '19

Because questions have arisen here that are well answered by a short series of postings from the 44net mailing list, at the request of the author [Phil Karn] and others, I am reposting them here. - Brian From: Phil Karn <karn(a)ka9q.net> Subject: [44net] 44.192.0.0/10 sale Hello all, I've not been active here, but some of you may remember me as the guy who first got TCP/IP going on amateur packet radio way back in 1986. At one time, my name was registered as the owner of the block. This makes me one of a VERY small group of people with any arguable personal property interest in network 44. And yes, 25% of this space, which is VERY unlikely to ever be used by hams, has been sold to Amazon. Rather than try to personally profit from this, we all readily agreed to place the *entire* proceeds of this sale into a 501(c)(3) charity chartered to support amateur digital radio and related developments. No one is buying a yacht or a mansion. As a tax-exempt charity, our tax returns and related documents will be publicly available so you can see what is being done. Like the rest of the amateur community, all of you will have the opportunity to apply for grants and do good things for amateur radio with them. 73, Phil _________________________________________ On 7/18/19 21:25, Gavin Rogers wrote: > On 19/07/2019 12:19 pm, Phil Karn wrote: >> Like the rest of the amateur community, all of you >> will have the opportunity to apply for grants and do good things for >> amateur radio with them. > I don't know much about US-registered charities and tax law, but will > this include amateurs and clubs located outside of the US? Sure. We'd like to cast the net as widely as possible for worthy grant recipients. Doesn't matter where they are in the world, as long as the purpose is consistent with our charter, which is to benefit amateur digital radio and related development. That's a worldwide activity. I suppose US legal restrictions on dealing with certain "pariah" countries might come into play (e.g., North Korea) but that's a very short list and there isn't much ham radio in them anyway. We're already thinking about things like: Educational grants to students who are hams; Existing amateur radio 501(c)(3) organizations; Development of *freely available* technology: hardware, software, protocols, etc Field trials, demonstrations, pilot projects, educational outreach, etc; This list is NOT exhaustive by any means, and in fact we'll be looking for good ideas from anyone who has them. We want to be as transparent about this as possible. Again, though we might have been able to establish a *personal* property claim over network 44, we all quickly decided to not open that can of worms and instead sign everything over to the ARDC. Face it, given who we are we'd probably just spend the money on ham radio development ourselves. This is a much better way to do it. 73, Phil _________________________________________ On 7/18/19 21:38, David Ranch wrote: > > Wow! This is rather big news but has also been VERY opaque to the > AMPR community. I'm also surprised that the sale has already occurred > and not auctioned off to say the highest bidder? Since ARDC is a > corporation, when will we learn about the sale price and how this > money will be *really* spent? > > The bottom of https://www.ampr.org/amprnet/ does cover a little of > this but it's all too vague for my tastes. I didn't like the secrecy either, but it was necessary given the nature of the process. We are precluded by the terms of the sale from giving precise figures at this time, but suffice it to say that we (Brian, actually) worked *very* hard to get the best possible price. I am fully satisfied that he did. Everyone with any arguable legal property interest in 44/8 was fully informed and consented to give up that interest and have it benefit ham radio instead. I didn't even think twice about it. Remember, this is an IRS 501(c)(3) charity, which means there are strict rules on transparency, how money can be spent and how it must be accounted for. Tax returns and other documents are public information. One of the most important rules for a non-profit, which the IRS takes pretty seriously, is a prohibition on "self dealing". This is how Donald Trump's personal charity got shut down. 73, Phil _________________________________________ On 7/18/19 22:08, David Ranch wrote: > >> I have so many words for the conspiracy theorists and negative >> naysayers, >> but Ill hold that back and not contribute to the shitstorm. > > My main concern is what will stop the ARDC board from selling the next > 25% or 50% of 44 space? The fact that, unlike 44.192.0.0/10, it's being used by hams? I personally approved the sale on two conditions: 1) The block wasn't being used by hams and had no viable prospect of being used by hams. [Editor's note: minor correction: 44.224.0.0/15 *was* in use as an unrouted internal network by a German ham radio society; they have been given a routable block of /15 and were in the process of renumbering to it.] 2) All of the proceeds went to a non-profit to benefit amateur digital development and related efforts. I am not an expert in the IP address market, but from everything I saw and heard I am fully satisfied that Brian did the best possible job in getting the best price for the /10 that was sold. It was explained to us that a /10 would be more than twice as valuable as two /11s or four /12s and so on, and this seemed perfectly logical to me. Remember, IPv4 addresses won't be valuable forever. IPv6 is developing slowly, but it *is* developing. I for one have long been interested in getting IPv6 much more widely used within amateur radio (as well as the larger Internet) as even the full 44/8 block was woefully inadequate for doing a lot of the things that could and should be done. 73, Phil

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Multi-day GNSS Galileo outage -- Civilization survives
by Sean Donelan 19 Jul '19

19 Jul '19

So much for the disaster scenarioes about a global clamity, planes falling out the sky, the end of civil society because a global navigation satellite system fails. The European Galileo GNSS was down for days, and life went on. I guess disasters exercise planners now need a new technical failure for table top exercises. • NAGU number 2019025 on 2019-07-11 14:45 on the potential service degradation; • NAGU number 2019026 on 2019-07-13 20:15 on the service outage; • NAGU number 2019027 on 2019-07-18 08:20 on the service recovery; https://www.gsa.europa.eu/newsroom/news/galileo-initial-services-have-now-b…

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