I hate to be that guy, but this is getting really outside the scope of
NANOG.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joe Greco
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Scott Helms <khelms(a)zcorum.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog(a)nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
> I was just thinking about my remaining Win 7 box _after_ I hit send
> and I believe you're correct (I have one still to upgrade). Which
> means users upgrading from 7 to 10 will need to create an ID, but
> users of 8 and 8.1 will use the one they already have.
This is incorrect. While the Win 8{,.1} install process makes it appear as
though you need a Microsoft ID, you can actually go into the "create a new
Microsoft ID" option and there's a way to proceed without creating a
Microsoft ID, which leaves you with all local accounts.
It does appear to be designed to make you THINK you need a Microsoft account
however.
I have a freshly installed Windows 8.1 box here (no Microsoft ID) that I
then upgraded to Windows 10, and it also does not have any Microsoft ID
attached to it. Activation shows as "Windows 10 Home"
and "Windows is activated." There's a beggy-screen on the user account page
saying something like "Windows is better when your settings and files
automatically sync. Switch to a Microsoft Account now!"
So, again, totally optional, but admittedly the path of least resistance has
users creating a Microsoft Account or linking to their existing one. You
have to trawl around a little to get the better (IMHO) behaviour.
... JG
--
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then
I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail
spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too
many apples.
Hello,
Just saw something suprising : 11/8 just came live from AS23352
(ServerCentral)
http://lg.ring.nlnog.net/prefix_detail/lg01/ipv4?q=11.0.0.0 .
ARIN's registry didn't change :
Net Range 11.0.0.0 - 11.255.255.255
CIDR 11.0.0.0/8
Name DODIIS
Handle NET-11-0-0-0-1
Parent
Net Type Direct Allocation
Origin AS
Organization DoD Network Information Center (DNIC)
Registration Date 1984-01-19
Last Updated 2007-08-22
But on ALTDB it's declared as legit :
http://www.altdb.net/whois.cgi?query=11.0.0.0%2F8
So it's unlikely a mistake. What do you think happened here ?
Best regards,
--
Jérôme Nicolle
Le sigh ..
Hotmail/Outlook/Live
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/getsupport?oaspworkflow=start_1.0.0.0&w…
Google/Gmail
https://support.google.com/mail/contact/bulk_send_new?rd=1
AOL
https://postmaster.aol.com/trouble-ticket
Yahoo
https://io.help.yahoo.com/contact/index?page=contact&locale=en_US&y=PROD_MA…
As for SORBS, I'm not aware of anyone that uses it these days because of the extortion thing and the rather ..ahem .. "eccentric" nature of it's owner.
Regards,
Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
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From: Ricky Beam <jfbeam(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:41 PM
To: Michael O Holstein
Subject: Re: Working with Spamhaus
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:59:55 -0400, Michael O Holstein
<michael.holstein(a)csuohio.edu> wrote:
> 100 spammy messages isn't enough to get you in trouble, as long as it
> stops there.
I see you've never had the pleasure of dealing with SORBS. All it takes is
*ONE* message - EVER - to be instantly, and forever, listed in their
spamtraps list. Getting on the list is automatic and immediate. There are
no thresholds or limits; and there's expiration. The only way off that
list is to PAY them to remove you. (which makes it illegal in most places.
The corporate sharks flipped when I pointed them to that "policy".)
> as were the other major players (MS, Google, AOL, Yahoo) by just filling
> out their postmaster forms.
What "postmaster forms"? Those 4 are the most *impossible* companies with
whom I've ever tried to interact. I *know* there are people at Google but
I'll be damned if there's a way to reach any of them.
