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Re: de-peering for security sake
by Owen DeLong 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

> On Dec 25, 2015, at 22:16 , Dan Hollis <goemon(a)anime.net> wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2015, Owen DeLong wrote: >> Merely because people are asleep at the switch does not give those of us in a position to understand the consequences license to abuse our position. > > At what point do you cut the wire? How abusive is acceptable? IMHO, you never cut the wire. You may filter selectively, but cutting the wire comes with far more collateral damage than actual useful effect. Owen

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Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile
by Scott Weeks 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

--------------------------- > North America is by far the leader in number of IPv6 enabled customers On the top ten country list, I see 6 European countries (Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, Estonia, France, Norway) 1 African country (Liberia) 1 North American country (USA) 1 Oceanian country (Kiribati) 1 Asian country (Malaysia) -------------------------------------------- Not a good comparison. Christian (the Kiribati guy) has a very different set of circumstances than, say, EU or NA folks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati "The nation comprises 33 atolls and reef islands and one raised coral island; Banaba. They have a total land area of 800 square kilometres (310 sq mi)[13] and are dispersed over 3.5 million square kilometres (1,351,000 square miles). Their spread straddles the equator and the International Date Line, although the Date Line is indented to bring the Line Islands in the same day as the Kiribati Islands. The permanent population is just over 100,000 (2011), half of whom live on Tarawa Atoll." scott

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IPv4 shutdown in mobile
by Ca By 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

TL;DR version: the data shows you are negligent if your eyeball content (cdn, cloud, ...) does not support native ipv6. With the NAT and IPv4 leasing threads lingering on, i figured it was time for an update on how the other half live More than 1/3 of North America mobile traffic to the top websites is end to end ipv6 http://www.worldipv6launch.org/2015-wrapup-more-than-13-us-mobile-traffic-i… The trend is clearly growing, and as AT&T and Sprint catch up with T-Mobile and Verizon, the acceleration to 50% should be easily achieved. Furthermore, only one mobile carrier has iPhone dual-stacked today (afaik), but Apple has a plan for banning ipv4-only apps and has delivered the required features for having ipv6-only iphones in 2016 with these iOS 9.2 features https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternetWeb… On some mobile providers, ipv6 is already dominant and ipv4 is waning. Once iPhones updates to ipv6-only as described above, ipv4 will only be a corner case of operations. This comes with added benefit that ipv6 is faster : https://code.facebook.com/posts/1192894270727351/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on-b… At least in mobile, the change to ipv6 has been quick and the pace is increasing -- not just on ipv6 deployment but also on ipv4 shutdown. I know many people liken ipv6 to "the boy who cried wolf", so be it, the data shows the ipv6 wolf is here. Or perhapsin hind sight, we will see the right metaphor was "the tortoise and the hare" or "the little engine that could"... Or even better IPv4 is John Henry. It was the best in its time, but times have changed. CB

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announcement of freerouter
by mate csaba 26 Dec '15

26 Dec '15

hi, pleased to announce a stable release of freerouter. this is a routing daemon that does packet handling itself so it can do bridging, routing ipv4/ipv6 unicast/multicast, mpls, vpls, evpn, mpls te, mldp, segment routing, and so on... speaks a lot of routing protocols like rip, ospf, isis, eigrp, bgp, babel... does a lot of tunneling like gre, ipip, ipsec, l2tp, geneve, vxlan, nvgre... have a lot of built in servers like dns, http(s), smtp, pop3, telnet, tacacs, radius, ssh... it can start external images which could be connected, so various lab topolgies can be easily created. our nren uses if as primary fullbgp rr for more than a year for about hundred routers. here is the homepage: http://freerouter.nop.hu/ feel free to try it out and send suggestions/bug reports...:) thanks in advance, csaba mate niif/hungarnet

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Analysis Role Account 25 Dec '15

25 Dec '15

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG, PaNOG, SdNOG, BJNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfsinoz(a)gmail.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 26 Dec, 2015 Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 576265 Prefixes after maximum aggregation (per Origin AS): 213285 Deaggregation factor: 2.70 Unique aggregates announced (without unneeded subnets): 280854 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 52365 Prefixes per ASN: 11.00 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 36632 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 15883 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 6400 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 169 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.4 Max AS path length visible: 37 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 40285) 34 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 1012 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 362 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 12218 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 9333 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 35630 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 16 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 393 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2802731460 Equivalent to 167 /8s, 14 /16s and 73 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 75.7 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 75.7 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 97.9 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 189204 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 146560 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 40490 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.62 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 155240 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 62692 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 5125 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 30.29 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1198 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 890 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.5 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 34 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1770 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 756202372 Equivalent to 45 /8s, 18 /16s and 187 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 88.4 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-64098, 131072-135580 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 181143 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 88980 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.04 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 184603 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 86550 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 16470 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 11.21 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 5932 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1727 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 3.8 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 37 Number of ARIN region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 905 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 1101780160 Equivalent to 65 /8s, 171 /16s and 212 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 58.3 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 62464-63487, 64198-64296, 393216-395164 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 23/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 45/8, 47/8, 48/8, 50/8, 52/8, 53/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 57/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 100/8, 104/8, 107/8, 108/8, 128/8, 129/8, 130/8, 131/8, 132/8, 134/8, 135/8, 136/8, 137/8, 138/8, 139/8, 140/8, 142/8, 143/8, 144/8, 146/8, 147/8, 148/8, 149/8, 152/8, 155/8, 156/8, 157/8, 158/8, 159/8, 160/8, 161/8, 162/8, 164/8, 165/8, 166/8, 167/8, 168/8, 169/8, 170/8, 172/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 192/8, 198/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 138551 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 68822 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 2.01 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 146446 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 90653 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 18042 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 8.12 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 7965 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2991 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 4.9 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 30 Number of RIPE region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 4325 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 702356864 Equivalent to 41 /8s, 221 /16s and 29 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 102.1 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 56320-58367 59392-61439, 61952-62463, 196608-204287 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 5/8, 25/8, 31/8, 37/8, 46/8, 51/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 141/8, 145/8, 151/8, 176/8, 178/8, 185/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 60646 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 11836 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 5.12 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 73576 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 34301 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2463 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 29.87 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 595 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 542 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.7 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 24 Number of LACNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 2158 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 170689536 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 44 /16s and 132 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 101.7 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 61440-61951, 64099-64197, 262144-265628 + ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 177/8, 179/8, 181/8, 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 191/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 13649 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 3115 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.38 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 16007 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 6324 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 736 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 21.75 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 193 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 167 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.5 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 18 Number of AfriNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 175 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 71343360 Equivalent to 4 /8s, 64 /16s and 157 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 70.9 AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-328703 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 102/8, 105/8, 154/8, 196/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4538 5600 4192 76 China Education and Research 7545 3065 346 158 TPG Telecom Limited 4766 3018 11136 1000 Korea Telecom 17974 2854 914 96 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 9829 2221 1416 374 National Internet Backbone 4755 2068 431 233 TATA Communications formerly 9808 1709 8639 18 Guangdong Mobile Communicatio 4808 1590 2275 505 CNCGROUP IP network China169 9583 1508 121 557 Sify Limited 38197 1416 88 186 Sun Network (Hong Kong) Limit Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 22773 3272 2964 145 Cox Communications Inc. 3356 2594 10690 532 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 6389 2508 3687 42 BellSouth.net Inc. 18566 2211 394 277 MegaPath Corporation 20115 1908 1907 403 Charter Communications 6983 1699 849 238 EarthLink, Inc. 30036 1668 332 329 Mediacom Communications Corp 4323 1578 1021 393 tw telecom holdings, inc. 209 1464 4338 1228 Qwest Communications Company, 701 1381 11445 652 MCI Communications Services, Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 39891 2473 129 7 SaudiNet, Saudi Telecom Compa 20940 2290 909 1642 Akamai International B.V. 34984 1933 321 410 TELLCOM ILETISIM HIZMETLERI A 8551 1435 376 44 Bezeq International-Ltd 8402 1087 544 15 OJSC "Vimpelcom" 13188 1075 97 79 TOV "Bank-Inform" 12479 1070 965 80 France Telecom Espana SA 31148 1042 47 41 Freenet Ltd. 9198 954 349 26 JSC Kazakhtelecom 6830 894 2712 464 Liberty Global Operations B.V Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 10620 3412 541 120 Telmex Colombia S.A. 8151 2121 3364 490 Uninet S.A. de C.V. 7303 1581 942 241 Telecom Argentina S.A. 6503 1388 453 58 Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V. 28573 1205 2174 131 NET Serviços de Comunicação S 11830 1096 366 25 Instituto Costarricense de El 6147 1037 376 34 Telefonica del Peru S.A.A. 7738 994 1882 41 Telemar Norte Leste S.A. 3816 977 460 187 COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES S 26615 956 2325 34 Tim Celular S.A. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8452 1208 1470 14 TE-AS 24863 1167 405 37 Link Egypt (Link.NET) 37611 583 39 40 Afrihost-Brevis Computer Serv 36903 552 278 110 Office National des Postes et 36992 446 1233 33 ETISALAT MISR 37492 328 192 67 Orange Tunisie 24835 326 146 12 Vodafone Data 29571 264 21 11 Cote d'Ivoire Telecom 3741 221 837 183 Internet Solutions 15706 171 32 6 Sudatel (Sudan Telecom Co. Lt Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4538 5600 4192 76 China Education and Research 10620 3412 541 120 Telmex Colombia S.A. 22773 3272 2964 145 Cox Communications Inc. 7545 3065 346 158 TPG Telecom Limited 4766 3018 11136 1000 Korea Telecom 17974 2854 914 96 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 3356 2594 10690 532 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 6389 2508 3687 42 BellSouth.net Inc. 39891 2473 129 7 SaudiNet, Saudi Telecom Compa 20940 2290 909 1642 Akamai International B.V. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 10620 3412 3292 Telmex Colombia S.A. 22773 3272 3127 Cox Communications Inc. 7545 3065 2907 TPG Telecom Limited 17974 2854 2758 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 6389 2508 2466 BellSouth.net Inc. 39891 2473 2466 SaudiNet, Saudi Telecom Compa 3356 2594 2062 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 4766 3018 2018 Korea Telecom 18566 2211 1934 MegaPath Corporation 9829 2221 1847 National Internet Backbone Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 30662 UNALLOCATED 8.2.129.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 53506 UNALLOCATED 8.17.102.0/23 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 46467 UNALLOCATED 8.19.192.0/24 46887 Lightower Fiber Netw 18985 UNALLOCATED 8.21.68.0/22 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 46473 UNALLOCATED 8.27.122.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 46473 UNALLOCATED 8.27.124.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 27205 UNALLOCATED 8.38.16.0/21 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 15347 UNALLOCATED 8.224.147.0/24 12064 Cox Communications I 33628 UNALLOCATED 12.0.239.0/24 1239 Sprint 32805 UNALLOCATED 12.1.225.0/24 7018 AT&T Services, Inc. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 23.226.112.0/20 62788 >>UNKNOWN<< 23.249.144.0/20 40430 colo4jax, LLC 23.249.144.0/21 40430 colo4jax, LLC 23.249.152.0/21 40430 colo4jax, LLC 27.100.7.0/24 56096 >>UNKNOWN<< 31.170.96.0/23 23456 32bit Transition AS 37.46.10.0/23 36351 SoftLayer Technologies Inc. 37.46.14.0/24 36351 SoftLayer Technologies Inc. 37.46.15.0/24 36351 SoftLayer Technologies Inc. 41.73.1.0/24 37004 >>UNKNOWN<< Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:16 /9:13 /10:36 /11:100 /12:265 /13:507 /14:1016 /15:1773 /16:12983 /17:7413 /18:12626 /19:25571 /20:37724 /21:39995 /22:63678 /23:55100 /24:315883 /25:547 /26:576 /27:381 /28:16 /29:16 /30:9 /31:0 /32:21 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 22773 2460 3272 Cox Communications Inc. 39891 2432 2473 SaudiNet, Saudi Telecom Compa 18566 2113 2211 MegaPath Corporation 6389 1553 2508 BellSouth.net Inc. 30036 1485 1668 Mediacom Communications Corp 6983 1345 1699 EarthLink, Inc. 10620 1290 3412 Telmex Colombia S.A. 34984 1221 1933 TELLCOM ILETISIM HIZMETLERI A 11492 1132 1222 CABLE ONE, INC. 31148 961 1042 Freenet Ltd. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:1639 2:655 4:100 5:2072 6:26 8:1420 12:1797 13:30 14:1594 15:23 16:2 17:57 18:19 20:48 22:1 23:1314 24:1737 27:2157 31:1716 32:54 33:2 34:4 35:5 36:197 37:2217 38:1140 39:22 40:76 41:3013 42:368 43:1619 44:36 45:1582 46:2374 47:63 49:1070 50:823 51:3 52:36 54:96 55:8 56:8 57:44 58:1436 59:840 60:523 61:1770 62:1413 63:1909 64:4447 65:2177 66:4075 67:2136 68:1092 69:3270 70:1041 71:461 72:1979 74:2559 75:358 76:418 77:1381 78:1269 79:821 80:1312 81:1347 82:859 83:669 84:775 85:1524 86:457 87:1040 88:552 89:1935 90:153 91:5963 92:862 93:2308 94:2231 95:2248 96:470 97:353 98:955 99:45 100:79 101:871 103:9243 104:2165 105:89 106:360 107:1099 108:639 109:2376 110:1247 111:1550 112:887 113:1193 114:916 115:1539 116:1516 117:1609 118:2029 119:1520 120:518 121:1165 122:2250 123:1877 124:1579 125:1741 128:673 129:357 130:422 131:1273 132:593 133:169 134:453 135:117 136:339 137:310 138:1599 139:199 140:248 141:464 142:637 143:738 144:578 145:150 146:824 147:609 148:1425 149:459 150:625 151:809 152:566 153:270 154:481 155:908 156:445 157:411 158:349 159:1065 160:421 161:695 162:2221 163:508 164:712 165:1100 166:315 167:921 168:1344 169:560 170:1483 171:263 172:369 173:1576 174:715 175:769 176:1503 177:3996 178:2221 179:1063 180:2071 181:1632 182:1911 183:664 184:763 185:5252 186:3015 187:1898 188:2124 189:1721 190:7579 191:1257 192:8747 193:5727 194:4315 195:3711 196:2255 197:1120 198:5498 199:5517 200:6715 201:3491 202:9915 203:9290 204:4569 205:2738 206:2963 207:3020 208:4012 209:3977 210:3763 211:2019 212:2623 213:2186 214:814 215:73 216:5707 217:1887 218:741 219:555 220:1639 221:807 222:645 223:880 End of report

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Re: Broadband Router Comparisons
by Seth Mos 24 Dec '15

24 Dec '15

Smallnetbuilder.com has quite a few models of routers tested, which is decent. I've bugged them about ipv6 testing before but not too much progress there. Powerconsumption is not listed either, which can be as expensive as the router itself at 21 cents per kWh. Regards, Seth -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht -------- Van: Lorell Hathcock <lorell(a)hathcock.org> Datum: 24-12-2015 03:49 (GMT+01:00) Aan: nanog(a)nanog.org Onderwerp: Broadband Router Comparisons All: Not all consumer grade customer premises equipment is created equally. But end customers sure think it is. I have retirement aged customers buying the crappiest routers and then blaming my cable network for all their connection woes. The real problem is that there were plenty of problems on the cable network to deal with, so it was impossible to tell between a problem that a customer was having with their CPE versus a real problem in my network. Much of that has been cleared up on my side now, but customers were used to blaming us for everything so that they don't even consider that their equipment could be to blame. I want to be able to point out a third party list of all (most) broadband routers that rates them by performance. Or that rates them by crappiness that I can send them to so they can look up their own router and determine if other users have had problems with that router and what can be done to fix it. So far my search has been in vain. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Lorell Hathcock Sent from my iPad

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MACsec to edge hosts
by Lyndon Nerenberg 23 Dec '15

23 Dec '15

Are any of you pushing MACsec (802.1AE) out from your switches to the edge hosts? Vs. just running it on the network cross-connect fabric? We have a scenario where, if we could MACsec encrypt those (switch <-> host) links, we could eliminate a lot of application level TLS. But searching for a list of PHYs that support this turned up a very thin set of chips, with most of them being several years old now. Are people even using MACsec in anything other than an "encrypt cross connects between the cages" context? I would be very interested in chatting with anyone who has tried pushing this out from their switches to the connected hosts. --lyndon

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How to update IPv6 geolocation data? Google sites blocked.
by David Sotnick 22 Dec '15

22 Dec '15

Hello, and Season's Greetings! We recently lit up a new IPv6-connected location and expanded our ARIN-allocated /48 network to a /44 network to accommodate the additional location (and future locations). However, since moving our small satellite office off our primary /48 and onto their own /48 as part of our /44 network, the users at that office are receiving messages from e.g. YouTube that the "user has not made this content available in your country". How does one go about updating this v6 geolocation data? This is impacting a bunch of our users. Thanks! -David

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Atlantic City
by Daniel Corbe 22 Dec '15

22 Dec '15

Can someone quote me a price off-list for 300Mbit (preferably on a GigE) in Atlantic City somewhere?

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Re: Nat
by Mike Hammett 22 Dec '15

22 Dec '15

There's nothing that can really be done about it now and I certainly wasn't able to participate when these things were decided. However, keeping back 64 bits for the host was a stupid move from the beginning. We're reserving 64 bits for what's currently a 48 bit number. You can use every single MAC address whereas IPS are lost to subnetting and other such things. I could have seen maybe holding back 56 bits for the host if for some reason we need to replace the current system of MAC addresses at some point before IPv6 is replaced. There may be address space to support it, but is there nimble boundary space for it? The idea that there's a possible need for more than 4 bits worth of subnets in a home is simply ludicrous and we have people advocating 16 bits worth of subnets. How does that compare to the entire IPv4 Internet? There is little that can be done about much of this now, but at least we can label some of these past decisions as ridiculous and hopefully a lesson for next time. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Corbe" <corbe(a)corbe.net> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog(a)ics-il.net> Cc: "Mark Andrews" <marka(a)isc.org>, "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog(a)nanog.org> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 10:55:03 AM Subject: Re: Nat Hi. > On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog(a)ics-il.net> wrote: > > "A single /64 has never been enough and it is time to grind that > myth into the ground. ISP's that say a single /64 is enough are > clueless." > > > > LLLLOOOOOOLLLLL > > > A 100 gallon fuel tank is fine for most forms of transportation most people think of. For some reason we built IPv6 like a fighter jet requiring everyone have 10,000 gallon fuel tanks... for what purpose remains to be seen, if ever. > > You’re being deliberately flippant. There are technical reasons why a single /64 is not enough for an end user. A lot of it has to do with the way auto configuration works. The lower 64 bits of the IP address are essentially host entropy. EUI-64 (for example) is a 64 bit number derived from the mac address of the NIC. The requirement for the host portion of the address to be 64 bits long isn’t likely to change. Which means a /64 is the smallest possible prefix that can be assigned to an end user and it limits said end user to a single subnet. Handing out a /56 or a /48 allows the customer premise equipment to have multiple networks behind it. It’s a good practice and there’s certainly enough address space available to support it.

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