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Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
by Benson Schliesser 19 Jul '14

19 Jul '14

Thanks for adding this perspective, Barry. I think it's realistic. But I also think it might miss an orthogonally connected issue - this isn't just about bandwidth, but about commoditization, consolidation, size etc. It may be that small ISPs just can't compete (at least in the broader market) as the market evolves. Similar to how I was disappointed by the loss of my local bookstore, but still buy all my stuff from Amazon. ... I hear Brett essentially asking for Netflix to do more for him than it does for big ISPs, because his small rural business model can't compete with the big guys. Thoughts? Cheers, -Benson On Jul 13, 2014 3:59 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs(a)world.std.com> wrote: > > Just an observation: > > I've been on the internet since dirt was rocks. > > It seems to me that one theme which has come up over and over and over > is that some new-ish technology demands more bandwidth than whatever > it was people were doing previously and as it popularizes people begin > fighting. > > In the early 80s it was downloading the host table, "could people > please try NOT to all download via a script at exactly midnight!!!" > > Then it was free software in the eighties, did WSMR et al really have > a RIGHT to become a magnet for such popular program downloads?! > > And graphic connection to remote super-computer centers. Could the > images please be generated locally and downloaded "off hours" > (whatever "off hours" meant on the internet) or even shipped via tape > etc rather than all these real-time graphical displays running???!!! > > Hey, the BACKBONE was 56kb. > > Then Usenet, and images, particularly, oh, explicit images because OMG > imagine if our administration found out our link was slow because > students (pick a powerless political class to pick on and declare > THEIR use wasteful) were downloading...um...you know. > > And games OMG games. > > I remember sitting in an asst provost's office in the 80s being > lectured about how email was a complete and total waste of the > university's resources! Computers were for COMPUTING (he had a phd in > physics which is where that was coming from.) > > And the public getting on the internet (ahem.) > > On and on. > > Now it's video streaming. > > And then the bandwidth catches up and it's no big deal anymore. > > And then everyone stops arguing about it and goes on to the next thing > to argue about. Probably will be something in the realm of this > "Internet of Things" idea, too many people conversing with their > toaster-ovens. > > My comment has always been the same: > > There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who try to > figure out how bake more bread, and those who herd people into > bread lines. > > I've always tried to be the sort of person who tries to figure out how > to bake more bread. This too shall pass. > > -- > -Barry Shein > > The World | bzs(a)TheWorld.com | > http://www.TheWorld.com > Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, > Canada > Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* >

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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 18 Jul '14

18 Jul '14

BGP Update Report Interval: 10-Jul-14 -to- 17-Jul-14 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS12858 134921 5.4% 7936.5 -- MYNET A.S.,TR 2 - AS9829 68571 2.7% 47.4 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone,IN 3 - AS1659 48232 1.9% 191.4 -- ERX-TANET-ASN1 Tiawan Academic Network (TANet) Information Center,TW 4 - AS38141 47183 1.9% 5242.6 -- CITRAMEDIA-AS-ID PT. Citramedia Network,ID 5 - AS14287 42118 1.7% 7019.7 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US 6 - AS8402 33996 1.4% 81.3 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom",RU 7 - AS57320 30534 1.2% 1796.1 -- T-TELECOM-MNT-AS Ionit-telecom Ltd.,RU 8 - AS28573 23109 0.9% 6.8 -- NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A.,BR 9 - AS38144 22360 0.9% 486.1 -- JALAWAVE-AS-ID PT Jalawave Cakrawala,ID 10 - AS647 22018 0.9% 185.0 -- DNIC-ASBLK-00616-00665 - DoD Network Information Center,US 11 - AS23752 20072 0.8% 218.2 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 12 - AS7552 18269 0.7% 14.9 -- VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Corporation,VN 13 - AS4775 15805 0.6% 687.2 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms,PH 14 - AS26769 15496 0.6% 227.9 -- BANDCON - Bandcon,US 15 - AS47883 14741 0.6% 124.9 -- KKTCELL-AS KIBRIS MOBILE TELEKOMUNIKASYON LTD.,TR 16 - AS47794 14113 0.6% 137.0 -- ATHEEB-AS Etihad Atheeb Telecom Company,SA 17 - AS25620 12541 0.5% 142.5 -- COTAS LTDA.,BO 18 - AS25184 12342 0.5% 94.2 -- AFRANET AFRANET Co. Tehran, Iran,IR 19 - AS45899 12278 0.5% 28.9 -- VNPT-AS-VN VNPT Corp,VN 20 - AS13489 10558 0.4% 23.8 -- EPM Telecomunicaciones S.A. E.S.P.,CO TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS18135 8582 0.3% 8582.0 -- BTV BTV Cable television,JP 2 - AS6459 8423 0.3% 8423.0 -- TRANSBEAM - I-2000, Inc.,US 3 - AS12858 134921 5.4% 7936.5 -- MYNET A.S.,TR 4 - AS14287 42118 1.7% 7019.7 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US 5 - AS38141 47183 1.9% 5242.6 -- CITRAMEDIA-AS-ID PT. Citramedia Network,ID 6 - AS34873 3513 0.1% 3513.0 -- IGIF-AS ACSS - Administracao Central do Sistema de Saude, I.P.,PT 7 - AS26661 9288 0.4% 3096.0 -- JCPS-ASN - Jeffco Public Schools,US 8 - AS54465 8665 0.3% 2888.3 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc.,US 9 - AS3 2103 0.1% 5212.0 -- MIT-GATEWAYS - Massachusetts Institute of Technology,US 10 - AS23074 5972 0.2% 1990.7 -- Petróleo Brasileiro S/A - Petrobras,BR 11 - AS57320 30534 1.2% 1796.1 -- T-TELECOM-MNT-AS Ionit-telecom Ltd.,RU 12 - AS33643 1731 0.1% 1731.0 -- JELLYBELLY - Jelly Belly Candy Company,US 13 - AS59280 4814 0.2% 1203.5 -- IDNIC-KAILIGLOBAL-AS-ID PT. Kaili Global,ID 14 - AS3 1079 0.0% 5517.0 -- MIT-GATEWAYS - Massachusetts Institute of Technology,US 15 - AS57201 1018 0.0% 1018.0 -- EDF-AS Estonian Defence Forces,EE 16 - AS10445 5301 0.2% 883.5 -- HTG - Huntleigh Telcom,US 17 - AS25003 9265 0.4% 842.3 -- INTERNET_BINAT Internet Binat Ltd,IL 18 - AS3 9615 0.4% 134.0 -- MIT-GATEWAYS - Massachusetts Institute of Technology,US 19 - AS4775 15805 0.6% 687.2 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms,PH 20 - AS5313 680 0.0% 680.0 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05120-05376 - DoD Network Information Center,US TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 176.97.96.0/24 14631 0.6% AS57320 -- T-TELECOM-MNT-AS Ionit-telecom Ltd.,RU 2 - 176.97.111.0/24 14631 0.6% AS57320 -- T-TELECOM-MNT-AS Ionit-telecom Ltd.,RU 3 - 78.109.192.0/20 10068 0.4% AS25184 -- AFRANET AFRANET Co. Tehran, Iran,IR 4 - 192.58.232.0/24 9609 0.4% AS6629 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA,US 5 - 185.17.128.0/24 9494 0.4% AS3 -- MIT-GATEWAYS - Massachusetts Institute of Technology,US 6 - 192.115.44.0/22 9228 0.3% AS25003 -- INTERNET_BINAT Internet Binat Ltd,IL 7 - 202.70.88.0/21 9156 0.3% AS23752 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 8 - 202.70.64.0/21 8712 0.3% AS23752 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Internet Services,NP 9 - 206.152.15.0/24 8663 0.3% AS54465 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc.,US 10 - 42.83.48.0/20 8582 0.3% AS18135 -- BTV BTV Cable television,JP 11 - 208.70.20.0/22 8452 0.3% AS14287 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US 12 - 208.73.244.0/22 8424 0.3% AS14287 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US 13 - 205.247.12.0/24 8423 0.3% AS6459 -- TRANSBEAM - I-2000, Inc.,US 14 - 216.162.0.0/20 8418 0.3% AS14287 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US 15 - 208.88.232.0/22 8412 0.3% AS14287 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US 16 - 208.78.116.0/22 8408 0.3% AS14287 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, Inc.,US Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)nanog.org eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 18 Jul '14

18 Jul '14

This report has been generated at Fri Jul 18 21:14:01 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 11-07-14 508685 284695 12-07-14 509206 284695 13-07-14 509206 286101 14-07-14 509322 286179 15-07-14 509529 286158 16-07-14 508666 286107 17-07-14 508348 286188 18-07-14 509180 285930 AS Summary 47680 Number of ASes in routing system 19320 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 3811 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS28573: NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A.,BR 120495616 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street,CN Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 18Jul14 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 508775 285851 222924 43.8% All ASes AS28573 3811 233 3578 93.9% NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A.,BR AS6389 2948 82 2866 97.2% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc.,US AS17974 2796 187 2609 93.3% TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia,ID AS22773 2715 552 2163 79.7% ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communications Inc.,US AS7029 2564 476 2088 81.4% WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc,US AS18881 2090 41 2049 98.0% Global Village Telecom,BR AS4766 2963 934 2029 68.5% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom,KR AS7545 2341 666 1675 71.6% TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited,AU AS18566 2046 565 1481 72.4% MEGAPATH5-US - MegaPath Corporation,US AS7303 1774 435 1339 75.5% Telecom Argentina S.A.,AR AS10620 2917 1588 1329 45.6% Telmex Colombia S.A.,CO AS4755 1858 591 1267 68.2% TATACOMM-AS TATA Communications formerly VSNL is Leading ISP,IN AS4323 1642 426 1216 74.1% TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc.,US AS6983 1388 314 1074 77.4% ITCDELTA - Earthlink, Inc.,US AS22561 1306 242 1064 81.5% AS22561 - CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc.,US AS7552 1258 227 1031 82.0% VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Corporation,VN AS6147 1089 147 942 86.5% Telefonica del Peru S.A.A.,PE AS9829 1654 767 887 53.6% BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone,IN AS7738 977 169 808 82.7% Telemar Norte Leste S.A.,BR AS24560 1151 344 807 70.1% AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services,IN AS4808 1204 415 789 65.5% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network,CN AS4788 1022 261 761 74.5% TMNET-AS-AP TM Net, Internet Service Provider,MY AS18101 945 187 758 80.2% RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN Reliance Communications Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI,IN AS8151 1444 696 748 51.8% Uninet S.A. de C.V.,MX AS11492 1231 499 732 59.5% CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC.,US AS26615 860 139 721 83.8% Tim Celular S.A.,BR AS701 1438 726 712 49.5% UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business,US AS9808 1047 335 712 68.0% CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile Communication Co.Ltd.,CN AS855 771 62 709 92.0% CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant Regional Communications, Inc.,CA AS27738 770 62 708 91.9% Ecuadortelecom S.A.,EC Total 52020 12368 39652 76.2% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 23.226.240.0/20 AS40430 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 23.226.240.0/21 AS40430 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 23.226.248.0/21 AS40430 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 24.231.96.0/24 AS21548 MTO - MTO Telecom Inc.,CA 27.100.7.0/24 AS56096 41.76.48.0/21 AS36969 MTL-AS,MW 41.78.120.0/23 AS22351 INTELSAT-1 - INTELSAT GLOBAL SERVICE CORPORATION,US 41.78.180.0/23 AS37265 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.78.236.0/24 AS37290 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.78.237.0/24 AS37290 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.78.238.0/24 AS37290 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.78.239.0/24 AS37290 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.189.96.0/20 AS37000 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.189.128.0/24 AS37000 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.1.0/24 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.2.0/24 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.3.0/24 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.4.0/22 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.4.0/24 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.5.0/24 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.8.0/24 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.13.0/24 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.16.0/20 AS37076 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.190.72.0/24 AS37451 CongoTelecom,CG 41.190.73.0/24 AS37451 CongoTelecom,CG 41.190.74.0/24 AS37451 CongoTelecom,CG 41.190.75.0/24 AS37451 CongoTelecom,CG 41.197.0.0/16 AS36934 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 41.223.208.0/22 AS37000 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 62.61.220.0/24 AS24974 TACHYON-EU Tachyon Europe BV,NL 62.61.221.0/24 AS24974 TACHYON-EU Tachyon Europe BV,NL 62.193.160.0/19 AS24801 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 62.193.160.0/20 AS24801 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 62.193.176.0/20 AS24801 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.25.16.0/23 AS19535 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.25.20.0/24 AS19535 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.25.21.0/24 AS19535 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.25.22.0/24 AS19535 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.25.27.0/24 AS7046 RFC2270-UUNET-CUSTOMER - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business,US 64.111.160.0/20 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.160.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.161.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.162.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.167.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.169.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.170.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.171.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.172.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.173.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.174.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 64.111.175.0/24 AS40551 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 65.75.216.0/23 AS10494 AAI - Accurate Automation, Inc.,US 65.75.217.0/24 AS10494 AAI - Accurate Automation, Inc.,US 65.111.1.0/24 AS32258 SDNGLOBAL - SDN Global,US 66.6.176.0/20 AS13223 BBTECNETWORKS-HK RM18, 9/F., Kwan Yick Building Phase 1, 430-440A Des Voeux Rd. West.,HK 66.55.96.0/23 AS17203 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 66.55.98.0/24 AS17203 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 66.55.99.0/24 AS17203 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 66.55.100.0/22 AS17203 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 66.55.102.0/23 AS17203 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 66.55.104.0/21 AS17203 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 66.180.64.0/21 AS32558 ZEUTER - Zeuter Development Corporation,CA 66.187.240.0/20 AS14552 ACS-SOUTHEASTDATACENTER - Affiliated Computer Services, Inc.,US 66.205.224.0/19 AS16526 BIRCH-TELECOM - Birch Telecom, Inc.,US 66.251.128.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks,US 66.251.133.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks,US 66.251.134.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks,US 66.251.136.0/21 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks,US 66.251.140.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks,US 66.251.141.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks,US 66.251.142.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks,US 71.19.134.0/23 AS3313 INET-AS BT Italia S.p.A.,IT 72.19.0.0/19 AS16526 BIRCH-TELECOM - Birch Telecom, Inc.,US 74.112.100.0/22 AS16764 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.113.200.0/23 AS46939 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.114.52.0/22 AS40818 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.114.52.0/23 AS40818 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.114.52.0/24 AS40818 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.114.53.0/24 AS40818 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.114.54.0/23 AS40818 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.114.54.0/24 AS40818 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.114.55.0/24 AS40818 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.115.124.0/23 AS46540 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.118.132.0/22 AS5117 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.120.212.0/23 AS32326 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.120.214.0/23 AS32326 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 74.121.24.0/22 AS36263 FORONA - Forona Technologies, Inc.,US 77.243.80.0/24 AS42597 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 77.243.81.0/24 AS42597 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 77.243.88.0/24 AS42597 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 77.243.91.0/24 AS42597 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 77.243.94.0/24 AS42597 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 77.243.95.0/24 AS42597 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 80.78.133.0/24 AS16422 NEWSKIES-NETWORKS - New Skies Satellites, Inc.,US 80.78.134.0/23 AS16422 NEWSKIES-NETWORKS - New Skies Satellites, Inc.,US 80.78.134.0/24 AS16422 NEWSKIES-NETWORKS - New Skies Satellites, Inc.,US 80.78.135.0/24 AS16422 NEWSKIES-NETWORKS - New Skies Satellites, Inc.,US 80.250.32.0/22 AS37106 ODUA-AS,NG 85.202.160.0/20 AS44404 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 89.31.24.0/23 AS41455 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 89.31.26.0/23 AS41455 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 89.31.28.0/22 AS41455 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 89.207.8.0/21 AS3292 TDC TDC A/S,DK 91.193.60.0/22 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 91.195.66.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 91.197.36.0/22 AS43359 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 91.199.90.0/24 AS44330 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 91.209.115.0/24 AS31103 KEYWEB-AS Keyweb AG,DE 91.214.65.0/24 AS30822 MAGEAL-AS Private Enterprise Mageal,LT 91.228.160.0/24 AS56815 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 91.239.157.0/24 AS24958 TBSH The Bunker Secure Hosting Limited,GB 93.190.10.0/24 AS47254 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 95.215.140.0/22 AS48949 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 102.2.88.0/22 AS38456 PACTEL-AS-AP Pacific Teleports. ,AU 103.6.108.0/22 AS37986 TULIP Tulip Telecom Ltd.,IN 103.6.228.0/22 AS4725 ODN SOFTBANK TELECOM Corp.,JP 103.9.108.0/22 AS4725 ODN SOFTBANK TELECOM Corp.,JP 103.9.140.0/24 AS38456 PACTEL-AS-AP Pacific Teleports. ,AU 103.9.141.0/24 AS38456 PACTEL-AS-AP Pacific Teleports. ,AU 103.9.142.0/24 AS38456 PACTEL-AS-AP Pacific Teleports. ,AU 103.9.143.0/24 AS38456 PACTEL-AS-AP Pacific Teleports. ,AU 103.17.108.0/23 AS56301 MN-NDC-MN National Data Center building,MN 103.18.76.0/22 AS18097 DCN D.C.N. Corporation,JP 103.18.80.0/24 AS13253 HKDNCL-AS Dot Gold Data Exchange Center,HK 103.18.81.0/24 AS13253 HKDNCL-AS Dot Gold Data Exchange Center,HK 103.18.92.0/22 AS13269 103.18.92.0/24 AS13269 103.18.94.0/24 AS13269 103.18.248.0/22 AS18097 DCN D.C.N. Corporation,JP 103.19.0.0/22 AS18097 DCN D.C.N. Corporation,JP 103.20.100.0/24 AS45334 AIRCEL-AS-AP Dishnet Wireless Limited,IN 103.20.101.0/24 AS45334 AIRCEL-AS-AP Dishnet Wireless Limited,IN 103.25.120.0/22 AS13280 103.248.88.0/22 AS23818 JETINTERNET JETINTERNET Corporation,JP 103.248.220.0/22 AS17676 GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp.,JP 103.249.156.0/22 AS23818 JETINTERNET JETINTERNET Corporation,JP 104.142.128.0/17 AS33353 GAIKAI - Gaikai, Inc.,US 104.152.160.0/21 AS54614 CIKTELECOM-CABLE - CIK Telecom INC,CA 104.152.184.0/21 AS31863 DACEN-2 - Centrilogic, Inc.,US 104.156.96.0/20 AS54858 AS-SBI - Condointernet.net,US 104.156.192.0/19 AS30279 VIRTUZO - Virtuzo,US 116.206.72.0/24 AS6461 ABOVENET - Abovenet Communications, Inc,US 116.206.85.0/24 AS6461 ABOVENET - Abovenet Communications, Inc,US 116.206.103.0/24 AS6461 ABOVENET - Abovenet Communications, Inc,US 117.120.56.0/21 AS4755 TATACOMM-AS TATA Communications formerly VSNL is Leading ISP,IN 121.46.0.0/16 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street,CN 124.158.28.0/22 AS45857 142.147.62.0/24 AS3958 AIRCANADA - Air Canada,CA 151.216.64.0/19 AS58367 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 162.218.168.0/21 AS40430 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 162.218.175.0/24 AS40430 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 163.47.23.0/24 AS2907 SINET-AS Research Organization of Information and Systems, National Institute of Informatics,JP 166.93.0.0/16 AS23537 CRITIGEN - Micro Source, Inc.,US 172.85.0.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.85.1.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.85.2.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.85.3.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.86.0.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.86.1.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.86.2.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.87.0.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.88.0.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS,CI 172.102.0.0/22 AS4812 CHINANET-SH-AP China Telecom (Group),CN 176.111.168.0/22 AS50586 MACROSOLUTIONS MacroSolution SRL,RO 182.237.25.0/24 AS10201 DWL-AS-IN Dishnet Wireless Limited. Broadband Wireless,IN 185.28.180.0/22 AS18097 DCN D.C.N. Corporation,JP 190.3.160.0/21 AS27975 SYNAPSIS COLOMBIA SAS,CO 190.124.252.0/22 AS7303 Telecom Argentina S.A.,AR 192.9.0.0/16 AS11479 BRM-SUN-AS - Sun Microsystems, Inc,US 192.25.10.0/24 AS5714 HPES - Hewlett-Packard Company,US 192.25.11.0/24 AS5714 HPES - Hewlett-Packard Company,US 192.25.13.0/24 AS5714 HPES - Hewlett-Packard Company,US 192.25.14.0/24 AS5714 HPES - Hewlett-Packard Company,US 192.34.152.0/21 AS10835 VISIONARY - Visionary Communications, Inc.,US 192.75.23.0/24 AS2579 AS2579 - Alcatel-Lucent,US 192.75.239.0/24 AS23498 CDSI - COGECODATA,CA 192.84.24.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc.,US 192.101.70.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business,US 192.101.71.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business,US 192.101.72.0/24 AS702 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business,US 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V.,DE 192.131.233.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - 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Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 193.227.236.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 193.243.166.0/24 AS44093 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 194.0.116.0/24 AS21437 AVITI-AS Aviti ltd.,UA 194.0.117.0/24 AS21437 AVITI-AS Aviti ltd.,UA 194.6.252.0/24 AS21202 DCSNET-AS Bredband2 AB,SE 194.9.8.0/23 AS2863 SPRITELINK Centor AB,SE 194.9.8.0/24 AS2863 SPRITELINK Centor AB,SE 194.33.11.0/24 AS8943 JUMP Jump Networks Ltd.,GB 194.39.78.0/23 AS702 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business,US 194.49.17.0/24 AS13135 CREW-AS Wieske's Crew GmbH,DE 194.60.88.0/21 AS5089 NTL Virgin Media Limited,GB 194.63.152.0/22 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 194.79.36.0/22 AS3257 TINET-BACKBONE Tinet SpA,DE 194.88.6.0/24 AS35093 RO-HTPASSPORT HighTech Passport Ltd SUA California San Jose SUCURSALA BUCURESTI ROMANIA,RO 194.88.226.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 194.99.67.0/24 AS9083 CARPENET carpeNet Information Technologies GmbH,DE 194.126.152.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 194.126.219.0/24 AS34545 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 194.126.233.0/24 AS31235 SKIWEBCENTER-AS SKIWEBCENTER SARL,FR 194.126.251.0/24 AS50818 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 194.146.35.0/24 AS25186 TRANSIT-VPN-AS Orange S.A.,FR 194.146.36.0/24 AS25186 TRANSIT-VPN-AS Orange S.A.,FR 194.150.214.0/23 AS30880 SPACEDUMP-AS SpaceDump IT AB,SE 194.156.179.0/24 AS3209 VODANET Vodafone GmbH,DE 194.180.25.0/24 AS21358 ATOS-ORIGIN-DE-AS Atos Information Technology GmbH,DE 194.187.24.0/22 AS8856 UKRNET UkrNet Ltd,UA 195.8.48.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.8.48.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.8.119.0/24 AS34304 TEENTELECOM Teen Telecom SRL,RO 195.39.252.0/23 AS29004 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 195.42.232.0/22 AS15657 SPEEDBONE-AS Speedbone Internet & Connectivity GmbH,DE 195.47.242.0/24 AS9050 RTD ROMTELECOM S.A,RO 195.54.166.0/23 AS51131 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 195.85.194.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.85.201.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.110.0.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.128.240.0/23 AS21202 DCSNET-AS Bredband2 AB,SE 195.149.119.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.189.174.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.216.234.0/24 AS31309 NMV-AS New Media Ventures BVBA,BE 195.234.156.0/24 AS25028 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 195.242.182.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.244.18.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 - Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 195.245.98.0/23 AS48918 GLOBALWAYS GLOBALWAYS AG,DE 196.2.224.0/22 AS24863 LINKdotNET-AS,EG 196.22.8.0/24 AS27822 Emerging Markets Communications de Argentina S.R.L,AR 196.22.11.0/24 AS16422 NEWSKIES-NETWORKS - New Skies Satellites, Inc.,US 196.45.0.0/21 AS26625 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 196.45.10.0/24 AS26625 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLATLANTIC-COM - Bell Atlantic, Inc.,US 198.74.11.0/24 AS14573 KEYSPANENERGY-NE1 - Keyspan Energy,US 198.74.13.0/24 AS14573 KEYSPANENERGY-NE1 - Keyspan Energy,US 198.74.38.0/24 AS16966 SBCIDC-LSAN03 - AT&T Internet Services,US 198.74.39.0/24 AS16966 SBCIDC-LSAN03 - AT&T Internet Services,US 198.74.40.0/24 AS16966 SBCIDC-LSAN03 - AT&T Internet Services,US 198.97.72.0/21 AS721 DNIC-ASBLK-00721-00726 - DoD Network Information Center,US 198.97.96.0/19 AS721 DNIC-ASBLK-00721-00726 - DoD Network Information Center,US 198.97.192.0/20 AS721 DNIC-ASBLK-00721-00726 - DoD Network Information Center,US 198.97.240.0/20 AS721 DNIC-ASBLK-00721-00726 - DoD Network Information Center,US 198.163.214.0/24 AS21804 ACCESS-SK - Access Communications Co-operative Limited,CA 198.163.215.0/24 AS6327 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc.,CA 198.163.216.0/24 AS6327 SHAW - Shaw Communications Inc.,CA 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business,US 198.176.208.0/24 AS4318 ADC-ASN - Freeport McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc.,US 198.176.209.0/24 AS4318 ADC-ASN - Freeport McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc.,US 198.176.210.0/24 AS4318 ADC-ASN - Freeport McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc.,US 198.176.211.0/24 AS4318 ADC-ASN - Freeport McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc.,US 198.180.198.0/24 AS23715 SEOUL-INTGW-GXS-AP Global Exchange Services,HK 198.252.165.0/24 AS20115 CHARTER-NET-HKY-NC - 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Level 3 Communications, Inc.,US 204.10.94.0/23 AS30097 NUWAVE - NuWave,US 204.15.208.0/22 AS13706 COMPLETEWEBNET - CompleteWeb.Net LLC,US 204.16.96.0/24 AS19972 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 204.16.97.0/24 AS19972 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 204.16.98.0/24 AS19972 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 204.16.99.0/24 AS19972 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 204.69.144.0/24 AS27283 RJF-INTERNET - Raymond James Financial, Inc.,US 204.106.16.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc.,US 204.155.28.0/22 AS40925 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 204.187.11.0/24 AS51113 ELEKTA-AS Elekta,GB 204.225.173.0/24 AS6407 PRIMUS-AS6407 - Primus Telecommunications Canada Inc.,CA 205.159.44.0/24 AS40157 ADESA-CORP-AS - ADESA Corp,US 205.166.231.0/24 AS7029 WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc,US 205.211.160.0/24 AS30045 UHN-ASN - University Health Network,CA 206.51.35.0/24 AS15078 Telelatina S.A.,AR 206.197.184.0/24 AS23304 DATOTEL-STL-AS - Datotel LLC, a NetLabs LLC Company,US 206.223.224.0/24 AS21548 MTO - MTO Telecom Inc.,CA 207.2.120.0/21 AS6221 USCYBERSITES - US Cybersites, Inc,US 207.174.131.0/24 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc,US 207.174.132.0/23 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc,US 207.174.152.0/23 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc,US 207.174.154.0/24 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc,US 207.174.155.0/24 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc,US 207.174.200.0/24 AS22658 EARTHNET - Earthnet, Inc.,US 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETPA - NuNet Inc.,US 207.254.128.0/21 AS30689 FLOW-NET - FLOW,JM 207.254.128.0/24 AS30689 FLOW-NET - FLOW,JM 207.254.136.0/21 AS30689 FLOW-NET - FLOW,JM 208.66.64.0/24 AS16936 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.66.65.0/24 AS16936 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.66.66.0/24 AS16936 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.66.67.0/24 AS16936 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.67.132.0/22 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business,US 208.68.180.0/22 AS4323 TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc.,US 208.69.192.0/23 AS6461 ABOVENET - Abovenet Communications, Inc,US 208.69.195.0/24 AS6461 ABOVENET - Abovenet Communications, Inc,US 208.75.152.0/21 AS32146 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.76.20.0/24 AS31812 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.76.21.0/24 AS31812 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.77.164.0/24 AS22659 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.77.166.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc.,US 208.83.53.0/24 AS40569 YGOMI-AS - Ygomi LLC,US 208.84.232.0/24 AS33131 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.84.234.0/24 AS33131 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.84.237.0/24 AS33131 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.84.238.0/24 AS33131 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 208.93.144.0/21 AS30693 SERVERHUB-PHOENIX - Eonix Corporation,US 209.177.64.0/20 AS6461 ABOVENET - Abovenet Communications, Inc,US 209.193.112.0/20 AS209 ASN-QWEST - Qwest Communications Company, LLC,US 209.209.51.0/24 AS18687 MPOWER-2 - MPOWER COMMUNICATIONS CORP.,US 209.209.224.0/19 AS19513 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.209.248.0/23 AS19513 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.209.250.0/23 AS19513 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.209.251.0/24 AS19513 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.212.63.0/24 AS16467 ASN-NEXTWEB-R1 - Nextweb, Inc,US 209.234.112.0/23 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.234.114.0/23 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.234.116.0/24 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.234.117.0/24 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.234.118.0/24 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.234.119.0/24 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.234.120.0/24 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.234.121.0/24 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 209.234.122.0/24 AS32252 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.64.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.65.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.66.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.67.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.68.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.69.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.70.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.71.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.72.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.73.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.74.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.75.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.76.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.77.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.184.78.0/24 AS13071 -Reserved AS-,ZZ 213.255.128.0/20 AS24863 LINKdotNET-AS,EG 213.255.144.0/20 AS24863 LINKdotNET-AS,EG 216.12.163.0/24 AS26627 AS-PILOSOFT - Pilosoft, Inc.,US 216.14.64.0/20 AS14728 MW-INDIANA - Mercury Wireless, LLC,US 216.146.0.0/19 AS11915 TELWEST-NETWORK-SVCS-STATIC - TEL WEST COMMUNICATIONS LLC,US 216.152.24.0/22 AS22773 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communications Inc.,US 216.170.96.0/24 AS4565 MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc.,US 216.170.101.0/24 AS4565 MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc.,US 216.170.104.0/24 AS4565 MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc.,US 216.170.105.0/24 AS4565 MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc.,US 216.234.132.0/24 AS14545 ADR-DRIVING-RECORDS - AMERICAN DRIVING RECORDS, INC.,US Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)nanog.org eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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RE: Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
by Brett Glass 18 Jul '14

18 Jul '14

At 08:48 AM 7/15/2014, Naslund, Steve wrote: >The name of the game is to decongest your network for the least >amount of money. I disagree with some of your other points, but on this we agree. And caching is the best way. Netflix refuses to allow it. --Brett Glass

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Re: Net Neutrality...
by Brandon Butterworth 18 Jul '14

18 Jul '14

> I just use it as a monitor for my compooter, so it doesn't bother me at > all. Which is pretty much > the only thing you can do with 4k these days... not much content > available that i know of. Pretty much the only thing it will ever be good for. 4K doesn't look so good at 30Hz if things move - http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2013/12/high-frame-rate-at-the-ebu-uhdtv-voice… We're working with the industry in defining the UHD standard, 120Hz is being considered though we'd prefer a bit more. brandon

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Analysis Role Account 18 Jul '14

18 Jul '14

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfsinoz(a)gmail.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 19 Jul, 2014 Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 503174 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 195916 Deaggregation factor: 2.57 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 248234 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 47325 Prefixes per ASN: 10.63 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 35997 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 16366 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 6142 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 177 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.6 Max AS path length visible: 53 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 50404) 51 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 1792 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 465 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 7045 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 5186 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 18527 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 358 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 383 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2708501988 Equivalent to 161 /8s, 112 /16s and 117 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 73.2 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 73.2 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 96.7 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 172960 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 121509 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 35733 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.40 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 124851 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 51946 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 4960 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 25.17 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1222 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 880 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.7 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 23 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1011 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 734619008 Equivalent to 43 /8s, 201 /16s and 101 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 85.9 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-63999, 131072-133631 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 169118 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 84233 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.01 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 170923 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 79771 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 16337 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 10.46 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 6115 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1690 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 4.0 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 40 Number of ARIN region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 142 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 1090072608 Equivalent to 64 /8s, 249 /16s and 48 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 57.7 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 62464-63487, 393216-394239 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 23/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 45/8, 47/8, 48/8, 50/8, 52/8, 53/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 57/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 100/8, 104/8, 107/8, 108/8, 128/8, 129/8, 130/8, 131/8, 132/8, 134/8, 135/8, 136/8, 137/8, 138/8, 139/8, 140/8, 142/8, 143/8, 144/8, 146/8, 147/8, 148/8, 149/8, 152/8, 155/8, 156/8, 157/8, 158/8, 159/8, 160/8, 161/8, 162/8, 164/8, 165/8, 166/8, 167/8, 168/8, 169/8, 170/8, 172/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 192/8, 198/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 124194 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 62926 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 1.97 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 129002 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 81741 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 17754 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 7.27 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 8271 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2881 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.0 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 53 Number of RIPE region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 2728 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 658555524 Equivalent to 39 /8s, 64 /16s and 194 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 95.7 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 56320-58367 59392-61439, 61952-62463, 196608-202239 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 5/8, 25/8, 31/8, 37/8, 46/8, 51/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 141/8, 145/8, 151/8, 176/8, 178/8, 185/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 58677 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 10276 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 5.71 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 66246 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 29968 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2161 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 30.66 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 547 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 448 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.8 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 24 Number of LACNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1261 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 167012288 Equivalent to 9 /8s, 244 /16s and 103 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 99.5 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 61440-61951, 262144-263679 plus ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 177/8, 179/8, 181/8, 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 191/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 11043 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 2710 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.07 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 11769 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 4476 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 724 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 16.26 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 211 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 158 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.7 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 28 Number of AfriNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 44 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 57803264 Equivalent to 3 /8s, 114 /16s and 2 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 57.4 AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-328703 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 102/8, 105/8, 154/8, 196/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4766 2963 11592 925 Korea Telecom 17974 2796 899 72 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 7545 2324 320 115 TPG Telecom Limited 4755 1858 392 197 TATA Communications formerly 9829 1654 1306 31 National Internet Backbone 9583 1308 103 532 Sify Limited 9498 1292 317 93 BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 7552 1224 1098 14 Viettel Corporation 4808 1204 2149 370 CNCGROUP IP network China169 24560 1151 399 191 Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6389 2948 3688 53 BellSouth.net Inc. 22773 2719 2940 141 Cox Communications Inc. 7029 2448 1905 302 Windstream Communications Inc 18566 2047 379 178 MegaPath Corporation 20115 1735 1724 565 Charter Communications 4323 1628 1072 410 tw telecom holdings, inc. 30036 1460 310 623 Mediacom Communications Corp 701 1438 11187 726 MCI Communications Services, 6983 1387 817 312 ITC^Deltacom 22561 1306 406 233 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 34984 1718 265 276 TELLCOM ILETISIM HIZMETLERI A 20940 1430 555 1054 Akamai International B.V. 8402 1300 544 15 OJSC "Vimpelcom" 31148 1042 45 20 Freenet Ltd. 13188 1031 100 28 TOV "Bank-Inform" 8551 996 371 42 Bezeq International-Ltd 6849 818 356 26 JSC "Ukrtelecom" 6830 775 2335 431 Liberty Global Operations B.V 12479 743 796 59 France Telecom Espana SA 9198 588 346 28 JSC Kazakhtelecom Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 28573 3822 2031 102 NET Serviços de Comunicação S 10620 2917 472 222 Telmex Colombia S.A. 18881 2090 1036 22 Global Village Telecom 7303 1769 1180 231 Telecom Argentina S.A. 8151 1436 2967 405 Uninet S.A. de C.V. 6503 1118 434 61 Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V. 6147 1089 373 28 Telefonica del Peru S.A.A. 7738 977 1882 41 Telemar Norte Leste S.A. 27947 895 130 51 Telconet S.A 26615 860 2325 35 Tim Celular S.A. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 24863 914 280 26 Link Egypt (Link.NET) 6713 673 744 37 Office National des Postes et 8452 592 958 13 TE-AS 36992 311 784 26 ETISALAT MISR 24835 306 144 9 Vodafone Data 3741 250 921 213 Internet Solutions 29571 233 22 17 Cote d'Ivoire Telecom 37054 226 19 6 Data Telecom Service 15706 187 32 6 Sudatel (Sudan Telecom Co. Lt 12258 176 27 67 MWEB CONNECT (PROPRIETARY) LI Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 28573 3822 2031 102 NET Serviços de Comunicação S 4766 2963 11592 925 Korea Telecom 6389 2948 3688 53 BellSouth.net Inc. 10620 2917 472 222 Telmex Colombia S.A. 17974 2796 899 72 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 22773 2719 2940 141 Cox Communications Inc. 7029 2448 1905 302 Windstream Communications Inc 7545 2324 320 115 TPG Telecom Limited 18881 2090 1036 22 Global Village Telecom 18566 2047 379 178 MegaPath Corporation Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 6389 2948 2895 BellSouth.net Inc. 17974 2796 2724 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 10620 2917 2695 Telmex Colombia S.A. 22773 2719 2578 Cox Communications Inc. 7545 2324 2209 TPG Telecom Limited 7029 2448 2146 Windstream Communications Inc 18881 2090 2068 Global Village Telecom 4766 2963 2038 Korea Telecom 18566 2047 1869 MegaPath Corporation 4755 1858 1661 TATA Communications formerly Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 65456 PRIVATE 5.109.32.0/19 23456 32bit Transition AS 65456 PRIVATE 5.109.96.0/19 23456 32bit Transition AS 30662 UNALLOCATED 8.2.129.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 53506 UNALLOCATED 8.17.102.0/23 2828 XO Communications 20260 UNALLOCATED 8.25.160.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 20260 UNALLOCATED 8.25.161.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 46473 UNALLOCATED 8.27.122.0/24 12180 Internap Network Ser 46473 UNALLOCATED 8.27.124.0/24 12180 Internap Network Ser 27205 UNALLOCATED 8.38.16.0/21 6461 Abovenet Communicati 15347 UNALLOCATED 8.224.147.0/24 12064 Cox Communications I Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 23.226.240.0/20 40430 colo4jax, LLC 23.226.240.0/21 40430 colo4jax, LLC 23.226.248.0/21 40430 colo4jax, LLC 24.231.96.0/24 21548 MTO Telecom Inc. 27.100.7.0/24 56096 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.76.48.0/21 36969 Malawi Telecommunications Lim 41.78.120.0/23 22351 INTELSAT GLOBAL SERVICE CORPO 41.78.180.0/23 37265 Neural Telecommunications Afr 41.78.236.0/24 37290 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.78.237.0/24 37290 >>UNKNOWN<< Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:16 /9:13 /10:30 /11:91 /12:259 /13:498 /14:980 /15:1702 /16:13019 /17:7007 /18:11693 /19:24692 /20:35045 /21:37458 /22:54020 /23:47374 /24:267061 /25:835 /26:932 /27:394 /28:13 /29:18 /30:10 /31:1 /32:13 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 18566 2002 2047 MegaPath Corporation 22773 1962 2719 Cox Communications Inc. 6389 1693 2948 BellSouth.net Inc. 30036 1304 1460 Mediacom Communications Corp 7029 1274 2448 Windstream Communications Inc 11492 1179 1231 CABLE ONE, INC. 6983 1095 1387 ITC^Deltacom 34984 1046 1718 TELLCOM ILETISIM HIZMETLERI A 10620 1024 2917 Telmex Colombia S.A. 22561 1003 1306 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:1228 2:655 3:3 4:15 5:1038 6:19 8:713 12:1856 13:4 14:1100 15:15 16:2 17:40 18:21 20:37 23:897 24:1753 27:1772 31:1505 32:41 33:2 34:5 36:139 37:1818 38:951 39:7 40:207 41:2647 42:256 43:124 44:13 45:42 46:2084 47:24 49:725 50:813 52:12 54:46 55:5 56:3 57:29 58:1220 59:616 60:414 61:1581 62:1246 63:1857 64:4366 65:2291 66:4154 67:2045 68:1046 69:3341 70:888 71:440 72:2005 74:2627 75:322 76:411 77:1657 78:807 79:712 80:1308 81:1206 82:768 83:771 84:773 85:1318 86:426 87:1139 88:465 89:1783 90:138 91:5719 92:729 93:1753 94:2016 95:1607 96:497 97:360 98:1091 99:49 100:65 101:946 103:5306 104:61 105:34 106:181 107:573 108:592 109:2022 110:997 111:1346 112:672 113:866 114:797 115:1132 116:1084 117:973 118:1496 119:1407 120:406 121:846 122:2118 123:1428 124:1417 125:1543 128:589 129:338 130:359 131:670 132:416 133:162 134:320 135:74 136:299 137:287 138:365 139:166 140:225 141:388 142:568 143:437 144:504 145:107 146:651 147:488 148:895 149:387 150:347 151:712 152:450 153:220 154:312 155:516 156:355 157:340 158:250 159:913 160:333 161:566 162:1609 163:318 164:689 165:621 166:291 167:642 168:1063 169:124 170:1361 171:183 172:65 173:1503 174:715 175:606 176:1400 177:3266 178:2070 179:788 180:1775 181:1306 182:1602 183:529 184:723 185:1884 186:2909 187:1612 188:2144 189:1483 190:7677 191:660 192:7414 193:5507 194:4043 195:3531 196:1419 197:674 198:5109 199:5535 200:6333 201:2694 202:9147 203:8969 204:4591 205:2628 206:2969 207:2961 208:3956 209:3740 210:3128 211:1722 212:2313 213:2113 214:878 215:87 216:5550 217:1687 218:608 219:330 220:1284 221:628 222:357 223:593 End of report

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Re: Net Neutrality...
by Larry Sheldon 17 Jul '14

17 Jul '14

On 7/16/2014 1:57 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 07/16/2014 08:45 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: >> On 7/16/14 7:50 AM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: >>> Relevant article by former FCC Chair >>> >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/07/14/this-is-why-the-… >>> >>> >> >> It reads like a hit piece (by a Republican "free markets" ideologue) on >> a (Progressive) Democratic primary candidate for Lt. Governor of New >> York, not like a reasoned case by an informed policy analyst. > > Errr, I didn't see anything about any LTG candidates in that piece, what > did I miss? I'm also curious about what it is that you think is > misstated or overblown in that piece that would lead you to believe that > it's a "hit piece." His use of phrases like "by a Republican "free markets" ideologue" pretty much nailed the value of his remarks for me. -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their mistakes. (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)

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Re: Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
by Brett Glass 17 Jul '14

17 Jul '14

At 07:47 PM 7/14/2014, Matthew Petach wrote: >And as long as they're happy with their single upstream >connectivity picture, more power to them. You're assuming that the only way to be multi-homed is to have an ASN. That's not correct. ARIN's fees are discriminatory; a small ISP must pay a much higher percentage of its revenues than a large one for IPs, ASNs, etc. Clever small ISPs find ways to work around that, and it makes them more competitive. --Brett Glass

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Re: Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
by Brett Glass 17 Jul '14

17 Jul '14

Mike: An ASN is, literally, just a number. One that's used by a very awkward and primitive routing system that requires constant babysitting and tweaking and, after lo these many years, still doesn't deliver the security or robustness it should. Obtaining this token number (and a bunch of IP addresses which is no different, qualitatively, from what I already have) would be a large expense that would not produce any additional value for my customers but could force me to raise their fees -- something which I absolutely do not want to do. Perhaps it's best to think of it this way: I'm outsourcing some backbone routing functions to my upstreams, which (generously) aren't charging me anything extra to do it. In my opinion, that's a good business move. As for "peering:" the definition is pretty well established. ISPs do it; content providers at the edge do not. Netflix is fighting a war of semantics and politics with ISPs. It is trying to cling to every least penny it receives and spend none of it on the resources it consumes or on making its delivery of content more efficient. We have been in conversations with it in which we've asked only for it to be equitable and pay us the same amount per customer as it pays other ISPs, such as Comcast (since, after all, they should be just as valuable to it). It has refused to do even that much. That's why talks have, for the moment, broken down and we are looking at other solutions. --Brett Glass At 09:58 PM 7/14/2014, Mike Lyon wrote: >So we are splitting hairs with what "peering" means? And I am sure >Netflix (or any other content / network / CDN provider) would be >more than happy to statically route to you? Doubtful. > >Dude, put your big boy pants on, get an ASN, get some IP space, Â >I am a smaller ISP than you I am sure and I have both. It's not >rocket science. How are other networks suppose to take you >seriously if you don't have an ASN? > >-Mike

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Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
by nanog＠brettglass.com 17 Jul '14

17 Jul '14

At 11:39 PM 7/12/2014, Steven Tardy wrote: >How would "4U of rent" and 500W($50) electricity *not* save money? Because, on top of that, we'd have huge bandwidth expenses. And Netflix would refuse to cover any of that out of the billions in fees it's collecting from subscribers. We can't raise our prices (that would not only cost us customers but be unfair to many of them; it would be forcing the non-Netflix users to subsidize Netflix). We simply need Netflix to pay at least some of its freight. >If your ISP isn't tall enough for Netflix, Akamai has a lower barrier of entry. >Have you let Akamai give you a local cache? why or why not? Akamai refused to do so when we approached them. The Akamai rep was rather rude and dismissive about it; we were too small to be worthy of their attention. It's important to note that the growth of rural ISPs is limited by population. Even if we did not have rapacious cable and telephone monopolies to compete with, our size is naturally limited by the number of possible customers. Each of those customers is every bit as valuable as an urban customer, but Netflix won't even give us the SAME amount per customer it gives Comcast, much less more (it costs more to serve each one). And Netflix is particularly out of line because it is insisting that we pay huge bandwidth bills for an exclusive connection just to it. It is also wasting our existing bandwidth by refusing to allow caching. If Netflix continues on its current course, ALL ISPs -- not just rural ones, will eventually be forced to rebel. And it will not be pretty. Our best hope, unless Netflix changes its ways, is for a competitor to come along which has more ISP-friendly practices. Such a competitor could easily destroy Netflix via better relations with ISPs... and better performance and lower costs due to caching at the ISP. --Brett Glass

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