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NANOG60 notes
by Matthew Petach 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

I've been pinged by a few people who had to travel midway through NANOG due to weather if I would be posting notes up; yes, though it looks like cluepon.net isn't writeable, so for now I'm putting them up on my home box, but when cluepon.net is writeable again, I'll copy them over there. For now: http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2014.02.10-NANOG60-day1-morning.txt http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2014.02.10-NANOG60-day1-afternoon.txt http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2014.02.11-NANOG60-day2-morning.txt http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2014.02.11-NANOG60-day2-afternoon.txt http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2014.02.12-NANOG60-day3-morning.txt Sorry about the weather! Matt

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DNS/NTP <censured>, a solution !
by Thomas Mangin 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hello, Because : - Exa has been under attack way too much these last weeks - We hate to have to deal with it Because: - Andrisoft seems cool but does not do FlowSpec - Arbor is known for its price (and features) - I am from Yorkshire (How much do you pay me to find bugs in your shinny application ?) Because: - We can ... - And people can not be bothered to fix the problem at source ! I have been working on making our internal tool ( Thank you Daniel ) something which can be built on and released to the community. The repository is here: https://github.com/Exa-Networks/exaddos The code is not even one week old but it can : - use SNMP to monitor your EBGP interfaces - parse IPFIX to find your top speakers - provide you the data in an HORRIBLE web page ( but all the rendering is client side, so feel free to fix that !) Now I would love some help ... I am NOT a web designer who find Javascript easy (I can handle jquery and basic stuff but nice CSS is not my cup of tea), so it will not look nice unless someone else make it so. I can provide the underlying data via JSON in whatever way one may need to allow : - graphing of links - allow to drill down on top speakers to find proto / ports information - "one click" get rid of that DDOS for <IP> <proto> I did some of this stuff with ExaProxy so I am not totally useless but god knows it is not my strength ! So any help would be welcome, so I can go back on coding on BGP and not DDOS. Thomas PS: I created a G+ community ExaDDOS .. I will try to add a mailing list later on.

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Call for Presentations RIPE 68
by Filiz Yilmaz 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Dear colleagues, Please find the CFP for RIPE 68 below or at https://ripe68.ripe.net/submit-topic/cfp/. The deadline for submissions is 2 March 2014. Please also note that speakers do not receive any extra reduction or funding towards the meeting fee at the RIPE Meetings. Kind regards Filiz Yilmaz RIPE PC Chair http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-meetings/pc --------------------- Call for Presentations A RIPE Meeting is an open event where Internet Service Providers, network operators and other interested parties get together. Although the meeting is mostly technical, it is also a chance for people to meet and network with others in their field. RIPE 68 will take place from 12 – 16 May 2014 in Warsaw, Poland. The RIPE Programme Committee (PC) is now seeking content proposals from the RIPE community for the plenary session presentations, BoFs (Birds of a Feather sessions), panels, workshops, tutorials and lightning talks at RIPE 68. The PC is looking for presentations covering topics of network engineering and operations, including but not limited to: • IPv6 deployment • Managing IPv4 scarcity in operations • Commercial transactions of IPv4 addresses • Data centre technologies • Network and DNS operations • Internet governance and regulatory practices • Network and routing security • Content delivery • Internet peering and mobile data exchange Submissions RIPE Meeting attendees are quite sensitive to keeping presentations non-commercial, and product marketing talks are strongly discouraged. Repeated audience feedback shows that the most successful talks focus on operational experience, research results, or case studies. For example, presenters wishing to describe a commercial solution should focus on the underlying technology and not attempt a product demonstration. The RIPE PC accepts proposals for different presentation formats, including plenary session presentations, tutorials, workshops, BoFs (Birds of a Feather sessions) and lightning talks. See the full descriptions of these formats at https://ripe68.ripe.net/submit-topic/presentation-formats/ Presenters who are proposing a panel or BoF are encouraged to include speakers from several (perhaps even competing) companies and/or a neutral facilitator. In addition to presentations selected in advance for the plenary, the RIPE PC also offers several time slots for “lightning talks”, which are selected immediately before or during the conference. The following general requirements apply: - Proposals for plenary session presentations, BoFs, panels, workshops and tutorials must be submitted for full consideration no later than 2 March 2014, using the meeting submission system at https://ripe68.ripe.net/submit-topic/guidelines/. Proposals submitted after this date will be considered on a space-available basis. - Lightning talks should also be submitted using the meeting submission system (https://ripe68.ripe.net/submit-topic/submission-form/) and can be submitted just days before the RIPE Meeting starts or even during the meeting week. The allocation of lightning talk slots will be announced in short notice – in some cases on the same day but often one day prior to the relevant session. - Presenters should indicate how much time they will require. See more information on time slot allocations per presentation format at https://ripe68.ripe.net/submit-topic/presentation-formats/ - Proposals for talks will only be considered by the PC if they contain at least draft presentation slides (slides may be updated later on). For panels, proposals must contain a clear description, as well as the names of invited panelists, presenters and moderators. - Due to potential technical issues, it is expected that most, if not all, presenters/panelists will be physically present at the RIPE Meeting. If you have any questions or requests concerning content submissions, please email pc [at] ripe [dot] net. ---------------------

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Operators and the IETF
by Chris Grundemann 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hey all, As promised in my lightning talk just now, here is the Operators and the IETF info: Details: http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/blog/2014/01/new-project-operators… Survey: https://internetsociety2.wufoo.com/forms/operators-and-the-ietf/ Please consider taking the survey, and sharing it with others. Thanks! ~Chris -- @ChrisGrundemann http://chrisgrundemann.com

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Reliable Dedicated/VPS providers in Canada?
by Carlos Kamtha 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could share some experiences with providers in the great white north. We have a few providers now and not happy with them. Cheap flimsly virtual servers that charge .50cents a gig for BW overages.. :/ Any feedback would be appreciated.. Cheers, Carlos.

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Re: Reliable Dedicated/VPS providers in Canada?
by Peter Kristolaitis 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

I've been quite happy with the servers I'm renting from OVH (http://www.ovh.com/ca/en/) in their new Montreal data center, which is their entry into the North American market; they've operated in Europe for quite a long time. - Pete --- kamtha(a)ak-labs.net wrote: From: Carlos Kamtha <kamtha(a)ak-labs.net> To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Reliable Dedicated/VPS providers in Canada? Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:01:44 -0500 Hi, I was wondering if anyone could share some experiences with providers in the great white north. We have a few providers now and not happy with them. Cheap flimsly virtual servers that charge .50cents a gig for BW overages.. :/ Any feedback would be appreciated.. Cheers, Carlos.

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NANOG Attendees: Flight cancellations on Wednesday
by Phil Rosenthal 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Just a heads up to those attending NANOG in Atlanta. Delta has already cancelled 500 flights for wednesday, and will likely be canceling more. http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/alerts-and-advisor… You may want to check your reservations on your respective airlines, and reschedule flights and extend your hotel stay here, before everything is sold out. In my particular case, the flights for thursday to my home town were already almost entirely sold out. Regards, -Phil

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ARIN PPC Agenda for NANOG 60 Tuesday AM session Now Available
by John Curran 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

NANOG 60 Attendees - Tomorrow morning there will be a Public Policy Consultation regarding a sizable number of potential changes to address policy at ARIN. Please find attached the list of policy proposals to be discussed; the session begins at 9:30 AM and all attendees are welcome! Text of each proposed changes is available at: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ There is also a PPC Discussion Guide available with all of the draft policies, the ARIN policy development process, and the current policy manual available here: https://www.arin.net/ppcnanog60 Thank you, and look forward to seeing everyone tomorrow! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN Begin forwarded message: From: ARIN <info(a)arin.net<mailto:info@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN PPC Agenda for NANOG 60 Now Available Date: February 4, 2014 at 2:08:08 PM EST To: arin-announce(a)arin.net<mailto:arin-announce@arin.net> Don't forget to mark your calendar and join us for ARIN's Public Policy Consultation (PPC), which will be held during NANOG 60 in Atlanta, Georgia on Tuesday, 11 February 2014, from 9:30 - 1:00 PM. The policy consultation is part of ARIN's Policy Development Process, and it is an open public discussion of Internet number resource policy. Registered NANOG 60 attendees do not need to register to participate in this session. ARIN welcomes members of the NANOG community who will not be in Atlanta to register as remote participants. If you plan to attend and are not registered for NANOG you must register for the ARIN PPC at the https://www.arin.net/ppcregister There is no registration fee for this half-day ARIN session, and it does not provide you entry to any other NANOG programming or social events. Current policy proposals up for discussion at this meeting are: Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8: Subsequent Allocations for New Multiple Discrete Networks Draft Policy ARIN-2013-7: NRPM 4 (IPv4) Policy Cleanup Draft Policy ARIN-2014-1: Out of Region Use Draft Policy ARIN-2014-2: Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language Draft Policy ARIN-2014-3: Remove 8.2 and 8.3 and 8.4 Minimum IPv4 Block Size Requirements Draft Policy ARIN-2014-4: Remove 4.2.5 Web Hosting Policy Draft Policy ARIN-2014-5: Remove 7.2 Lame Delegations Draft Policy ARIN-2014-6: Remove 7.1 (Maintaining IN-ADDRs) Draft Policy ARIN-2014-7: Section 4.4 Micro Allocation Conservation Update Proposals (193, 199 and 201) That first item is a Recommended Draft Policy; the ARIN Advisory Council recommends it as fair and technically sound policy. The Drafts and Proposals are works in progress. Text available at: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ or in the PPC Discussion Guide: https://www.arin.net/ppcnanog60 ARIN will offer a webcast, live transcript, and Jabber chat options for remote participants. Registered remote participants can submit comments and questions to the discussions during the meeting. Register to attend in person or remotely today! Regards, Communications and Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) _______________________________________________ ARIN-Announce You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Announce Mailing List (ARIN-announce(a)arin.net) Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-announce Please contact info(a)arin.net if you experience any issues.

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carrier comparison
by Adam Greene 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hi, We're a small ISP / datacenter with a Time Warner fiber-based DIA contract that is coming up for renewal. We're getting much better pricing offers from Cogent, and are finding out what Level 3 can do for us as well. Both providers will use Time Warner fiber for last mile. My questions are: - Will we be sacrificing quality if we spring for Cogent? (yesterday's Cogent/Verizon thread provided some cold chills for my spine) - Is there a risk with contracting a carrier that utilizes another carrier (such as Time Warner) for the last mile? (i.e. if there is a downtime situation, are we going to be caught in a web of confusion and finger-pointing that delays problem resolution)? - How are peoples' experiences with L3 vs TWC? Although I assume everyone on the list would be interested in what others have to say about these questions, out of respect for the carriers in question, I encourage you to email frank opinions off list. Or if there are third party tools or resources you know that I could consult to deduce the answers to these questions myself, they are most welcome. Thanks, Adam

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2014.02.10 NANOG60 day 1 notes...ish
by Matthew Petach 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

I was going to put my notes from today's talk up at http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Past_Events but discovered the site seems to have gone read-only, and my login doesn't work anymore. If people know what happened to the logins for that site, I'd be happy to add notes for today's talks to the page. Thanks! Matt

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