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Re: Weird Issues within L3
by Khurram Khan 07 Oct '14

07 Oct '14

what's interesting is that out of my XO peering, I show no packet loss but out of L3, I do see packet loss. XO out of Denver: Sending 100, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 4.2.2.4, timeout is 2 seconds: Packet sent with a source address of 69.171.180.67 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 100 percent (100/100), round-trip min/avg/max = 12/15/16 ms L3 out of San Diego: Packet sent with a source address of 63.214.184.3 !!!!!!!!!!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 98 percent (98/100), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/7/16 ms L3 out of Phoenix: Packet sent with a source address of 4.53.104.66 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 97 percent (97/100), round-trip min/avg/max = 8/16/24 ms traceroute out of the L3 pop in San Diego Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 4.2.2.4 1 4.71.136.185 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec 2 4.2.2.4 12 msec 12 msec 16 msec On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Smith, Thomas <Smith.Thomas(a)scrippshealth.org> wrote: > I'm dropping about 10 percent from the Sorrento Valley area. > > - - - - - - - - - > Thom Smith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Khurram Khan > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 1:46 PM > To: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Weird Issues within L3 > > Hi Group, > > We have a couple of circuits , internet facing with Level 3 and from our edge in San Diego, seeing some packet loss when trying a ping to 4.2.2.4, sourcing from 63.214.184.3. anyone seeing a similar issue ? > > Packet sent with a source address of 63.214.184.3 !.!!!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!...!!!..!!!!!!.!!.!!!!!!.!..!!.!!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!.!!.!!!..!!!!!.!!!!.! > Success rate is 80 percent (80/100), round-trip min/avg/max = 12/13/16 ms > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this e-mail or any of its attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sending individual or entity by e-mail and permanently delete the original e-mail and attachment(s) from your computer system. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Other things in the Baltimore area
by Jeff Shultz 07 Oct '14

07 Oct '14

Two other places that might be worth a visit: (taking care to leave torches and pitchforks behind) The National Cryptologic Museum is located next to the National Security Agency HQ. It's really not that far away. https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/museum/ The B&O Train Museum is a must-see stop for anyone interested in railroads - http://www.borail.org/Collections.aspx I remember spending a fun afternoon several years ago (okay, so it's been over 15 years now...) just riding the water taxi around the harbor, getting off and wandering around Fells Point as well. -- Jeff Shultz

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2014.10.06 NANOG 62 afternoon notes
by Matthew Petach 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Bugger. Just realized I got the document names wrong. I'll just keep going with the wrong values, and pretend I didn't copy the dates from last time by mistake. ^_^; http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/NANOG62aft2 Thanks! :) Matt

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2014.10.06 NANOG 62 morning notes posted
by Matthew Petach 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Sorry, lunch was a bit short today, so didn't have time to post URL to morning notes over lunch as usual, sorry about that. ^_^;; Matt http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/NANOG62morn2

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socialsecurity.gov ipv6 routing loop
by Ca By 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

in case anyone can help resolve traceroute6 www.socialsecurity.gov traceroute6: Warning: www.socialsecurity.gov has multiple addresses; using 2001:1930:c01::aaaa traceroute6 to www.socialsecurity.gov (2001:1930:c01::aaaa) from 2607:f2f8:a8e0::2, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets 1 2607:f2f8:a8e0::1 1.139 ms 0.798 ms 0.828 ms 2 ge-0-7-0-24.r04.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 1.159 ms 1.737 ms 1.098 ms 3 2001:428:201:8::1 0.718 ms 0.940 ms 0.976 ms 4 2001:428::205:171:3:171 74.411 ms 73.496 ms 74.080 ms 5 2001:428:a202::2:0:2 81.566 ms 81.726 ms 81.701 ms 6 www.socialsecurity.gov 76.344 ms 75.903 ms 75.638 ms 7 2001:1930:c01::2 76.694 ms 76.982 ms 76.726 ms 8 www.socialsecurity.gov 75.722 ms 75.774 ms 76.011 ms 9 2001:1930:c01::2 76.804 ms 77.080 ms 76.898 ms 10 www.socialsecurity.gov 75.967 ms 75.874 ms 75.842 ms 11 2001:1930:c01::2 76.901 ms 77.006 ms 76.907 ms 12 www.socialsecurity.gov 76.079 ms 76.390 ms 76.192 ms 13 2001:1930:c01::2 76.911 ms 77.246 ms 77.362 ms 14 www.socialsecurity.gov 76.032 ms 76.335 ms 76.327 ms 15 2001:1930:c01::2 77.239 ms 77.295 ms 77.903 ms 16 www.socialsecurity.gov 77.083 ms 76.307 ms 76.435 ms 17 2001:1930:c01::2 77.307 ms 77.427 ms 77.438 ms 18 www.socialsecurity.gov 76.468 ms 76.619 ms 78.225 ms 19 2001:1930:c01::2 77.242 ms 77.300 ms 77.371 ms 20 www.socialsecurity.gov 76.423 ms 76.444 ms 76.390 ms 21 2001:1930:c01::2 77.276 ms 77.277 ms 77.367 ms 22 www.socialsecurity.gov 76.610 ms 76.377 ms 76.669 ms 23 2001:1930:c01::2 77.318 ms 77.549 ms 77.201 ms 24 www.socialsecurity.gov 76.407 ms 76.250 ms 76.546 ms

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A few Baltimore tips for this week
by Rich Kulawiec 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Restaurants worth visiting: the Waterfront Kitchen (pricey, worth it, harbor views), The Helmand (Afghan, delicious, charming hosts), McCormick & Schmick's (seafood, harbor views), The Black Olive (Greek), B&O Brasserie (great cocktails too), Sotto Sopra (Italian), Da Mimmo's (Italian) Restaurants with good beer: The Brewer's Art (home of Resurrection Ale), The Alewife (one dining room is a former bank vault), Heavy Seas Ale House (extraaaaarrrrdinary beers, matey) What you should try: crabs (steamed, soft-shell, crabcakes or any other way you can get them) seasoned (of course) with Old Bay Places to go in your copious free time: American Visionary Art Museum, the National Aquarium, Fort McHenry The Charm City Circulator is a free bus service that runs on various routes downtown. Water taxis (not free) run across the harbor. Do not be confused if someone says "Welcome to Bawlmer Merlund, hon": you're in the correct city. Fells Point, Canton, the Inner Harbor and Federal Hill are all reasonably safe. Travel in groups at night and/or take a cab if it's late. Stay the hell away from North Avenue unless you want to be an extra in The Wire. Berger Cookies are really bad for your diet and you definitely want some. Don't fall into the harbor, the water quality is...dubious. ---rsk

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Final Reminder - ARIN Public Policy Consultation at NANOG 62 Baltimore
by John Curran 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

NANOG 62 Baltimore Attendees (and Remote Participants) - Starting at 9 AM tomorrow, there will be an ARIN Public Policy Consultation in the Chesapeake AB room. A list of the draft policies that will be discussed is attached (and available online on the event Agenda page.) This a great opportunity for the network operator community to feedback on these proposed policies, particularly if you are not staying for the ARIN meeting which follows NANOG 62 this week. All NANOG attendees are encouraged to participate, as adopted policies will affect that administration of number resources in the region. See you tomorrow morning! /John p.s. If you are not on-site in Baltimore, you can still remotely participate in the ARIN Public Policy Consultation; please preregister via the "Register" link at the bottom of the Agenda page - <http://www.cvent.com/events/arin-ppc-at-nanog-62/agenda-78d7056632c14ccba5e…> NANOG Folks - There are a number of proposed changes to number resource policy in the ARIN region, and you'll have two opportunities to discuss these proposals next week in Baltimore (or remotely, as you prefer) The Public Policy Consultation within NANOG takes place on Tuesday morning from 9 to 1 PM; everyone is welcome (although preregistration is required if you are not already registered for NANOG.) The ARIN 34 Meeting will follow NANOG on Thursday and Friday; we will have discussions of policy changes, as well as ARIN fee schedule, changes in the stewardship of the IANA functions, and more. Information on ARIN registration is also included in the attached message. I look forward to seeing everyone in Baltimore! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN Begin forwarded message: From: ARIN <info(a)arin.net<mailto:info@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-announce] The PPC @ NANOG 62 & ARIN 34 Will Be Here Soon – Get Ready! Date: October 2, 2014 at 1:18:17 PM EDT To: <arin-announce(a)arin.net<mailto:arin-announce@arin.net>> Next week will be busy! With the Public Policy Consultation (PPC) at NANOG 62 and ARIN 34 Public Policy and Members Meeting, we will be in the thick of important community discussions on ten policy proposals. * Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-6: Remove 7.1 [Maintaining IN-ADDRs] * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-15: Allow Inter-RIR ASN Transfers * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-14: Removing Needs Test from Small IPv4 Transfers * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-20: Transfer Policy Slow Start and Simplified Needs Verification * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-1: Out of Region Use * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-16: Section 4.10 Austerity Policy Update * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-17: Change Utilization Requirements from last-allocation to total-aggregate * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-18: Simplifying Minimum Allocations and Assignments * Draft Policy ARIN-2014-19: New MDN Allocation Based on Past Utilization Whether you plan to join us online or in-person, we want to make sure you are ready. To help you prepare for the meeting, ARIN has published all of the meeting materials online for you to review or download before the meeting begins. Just visit: https://www.arin.net/ppc_materials or https://www.arin.net/ARIN34_materials Copies of the presentations of the meetings will also be posted at the above URLs once the meeting has started, as they are available. We hope to see you in Baltimore, but if you are unable to join us in person, be sure to keep up with us by participating remotely! View the agenda, learn more about remote participation, and register today by visiting: The PPC at NANOG 62: https://www.arin.net/ppcnanog62 ARIN 34: https://www.arin.net/ARIN34 Please contact us at info(a)arin.net if you have any questions. Regards, Communications and Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

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Marriott wifi blocking
by David Hubbard 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

Saw this article: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/travel/marriott-fcc-wi-fi-fine/ The interesting part: 'A federal investigation of the Gaylord Opryland Resort and Convention Center in Nashville found that Marriott employees had used "containment features of a Wi-Fi monitoring system" at the hotel to prevent people from accessing their own personal Wi-Fi networks.' I'm aware of how the illegal wifi blocking devices work, but any idea what legal hardware they were using to effectively keep their own wifi available but render everyone else's inaccessible? David

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visibility/reachability of longer-than-/24 IPv4 prefixes
by Emile Aben 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear colleagues, In a cooperation between the RIPE NCC and ARIN we investigate the visibility/reachability of longer-than-/24 prefixes out of ARIN's 23.128/10 IPv4 address block. This part of ARIN policy (https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four10) elicited much discussion on NANOG earlier this year, so we decided to try and measure the current state of the network with regards to longer-than-/24 IPv4 prefixes. We've now published a RIPE Labs article with initial analysis results: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/propagation-of-longer-than-24-ipv4-… Spoiler: the longer-than-/24 prefixes are not very visible/reachable. Having route-objects improves visibility/reachability, but only a little bit. cheers, Emile Aben RIPE NCC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUMqgKAAoJEKxthF6wloMO9LUQAITnqRgmI0G7yD7Vv7E30wpu W2YwXV6nP3ssq7XDE/ByqmXzDycS9Iu3/h+IK9Th5KqeCJIfGsyIDGvD1P4QCswd vyTA0a6iND03cX1JbuuA6mQZyf7oeIsFeCUzxjTBBTU0K2O62ngrnr74K6LCFNx9 2k4gSyyn1BJ4FQpgXgRnaADrcKR9pvYXa92HRCXZwXl7hBsbo213u79CNc8iF6nH einYXqifNzxjoNtUqHKDPFX93t5nHSUGJBqV2Xe/Lr89aGSGkXdlGZqd1GhFdaPf O0gryNJWg2r3maM0THte/UYIzFKaVS71f5eZj+blj1eb9mIxLcVPtIdh8rB7JJ8r Pyi3yOjBdusntGY3dfsG4pYV80og2yn8AIVQde0hBEoreESjqGzMv74ZO7avXtZ6 K3c48uS/sL49EXafDgiinJ+9YblqCd4+cw0YockbCl5WFSZGRzth1R1J7UESgVH6 gk0yO9BzmHcuNLcxJVfRJJV4NkEJ+sVAuFwFWmushPjQWm1PGLDCVBhRvynOxvOK eqff9Rs0SkQpJ9gN05HnaWcb87gjjTFKWxZ8l2xbZo4JkAgRSvMLkrthviSvN2PX 7DhGlC+hlq4mpR/y1YwiEF4oMFkH9feni4P0lFfbLNR2I72MyAv0lIu9hawIUpwn ryDIUKXZOvPifOAs/5PA =vaXm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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VDSL concentrator
by Mirko Maffioli 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

I'm searching for a low price VDSL DSLAM like e.g. the Patton FF3210P. I need to redistribute the connectivity to customers inside a large campus but i don't need any particular additional service. Do you have any advice? Thanks! Mirko

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