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Re: In need of C6500 in Orlando later today
by Positively Optimistic 25 Aug '12

25 Aug '12

Have a 6513- w 2 poker supplies and fan. Call me 3345967565 On Aug 25, 2012 8:47 AM, "Graham Wooden (Personal)" <graham(a)g-rock.net> wrote: > Our grey market vendor miss-shipped a Cisco 6506 chassis that was needed > today. Very slim chance that it will make it to me this afternoon. > > Anyone in the Orlando area with a spare C6506/9 chassis that they'll be > looking to sell? Need Fan1 and (2) 1300w power supplies. I brought the Sups > with me. > > Please let me know offline. Need it this afternoon. Thanks. > > Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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Re: In need of C6500 in Orlando later today
by Graham Wooden (Personal) 25 Aug '12

25 Aug '12

I am driving in from the FL pan handle area. If you have a chassis to sell, please let me know asap. I'll drive to you as FedEx just called and not be delivering today so expanding the search. 228-233-0696. Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ----- Reply message ----- From: "Graham Wooden (Personal)" <graham(a)g-rock.net> Date: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 9:47 am Subject: In need of C6500 in Orlando later today To: <nanog(a)nanog.org> Our grey market vendor miss-shipped a Cisco 6506 chassis that was needed today. Very slim chance that it will make it to me this afternoon. Anyone in the Orlando area with a spare C6506/9 chassis that they'll be looking to sell? Need Fan1 and (2) 1300w power supplies. I brought the Sups with me. Please let me know offline. Need it this afternoon. Thanks. Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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In need of C6500 in Orlando later today
by Graham Wooden (Personal) 25 Aug '12

25 Aug '12

Our grey market vendor miss-shipped a Cisco 6506 chassis that was needed today. Very slim chance that it will make it to me this afternoon. Anyone in the Orlando area with a spare C6506/9 chassis that they'll be looking to sell? Need Fan1 and (2) 1300w power supplies. I brought the Sups with me. Please let me know offline. Need it this afternoon. Thanks. Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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Asia's Fastest Communications Cable Comes Online
by Joly MacFie 25 Aug '12

25 Aug '12

http://www.livescience.com/22538-asias-fastest-communications-cable-comes-o… The fastest-yet communications cable in Asia came online today (Aug. 20). The underwater fiber optic cable links Japan, Hong Kong, the Philippines, Malaysia and Singapore for high-speed, computerized stock trading. The system transmits information at 40 gigabits per second, three milliseconds faster than any other system in the region, the BBC reported<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19275490>. "The gain may sound small, but could prove critical to financial trades made out of the region," according to the report. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Analysis Role Account 25 Aug '12

25 Aug '12

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfsinoz(a)gmail.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 25 Aug, 2012 Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 264582 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 97761 Deaggregation factor: 2.71 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 119633 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 29036 Prefixes per ASN: 9.11 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 22245 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 11565 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 4486 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 492 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.6 Max AS path length visible: 32 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 48687) 24 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 435 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 144 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 3169 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 2305 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 6164 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 74 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2132781732 Equivalent to 127 /8s, 31 /16s and 170 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 57.5 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 57.6 Percentage of available address space allocated: 99.9 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 93.3 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 117536 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 59813 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 15336 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.90 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 60438 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 22879 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2883 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 20.96 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 806 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 609 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.7 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 26 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 242 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 551407040 Equivalent to 32 /8s, 221 /16s and 205 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 64.4 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 131072-133119 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 96228 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 43322 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.22 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 97518 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 38278 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 10585 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 9.21 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 4892 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1244 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 4.0 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 24 Number of ARIN region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 7 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 937035712 Equivalent to 55 /8s, 218 /16s and 7 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 49.6 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 393216-394239 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 23/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 45/8, 47/8, 48/8, 50/8, 52/8, 53/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 57/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 100/8, 104/8, 107/8, 108/8, 128/8, 129/8, 130/8, 131/8, 132/8, 134/8, 135/8, 136/8, 137/8, 138/8, 139/8, 140/8, 142/8, 143/8, 144/8, 146/8, 147/8, 148/8, 149/8, 152/8, 155/8, 156/8, 157/8, 158/8, 159/8, 160/8, 161/8, 162/8, 164/8, 165/8, 166/8, 167/8, 168/8, 169/8, 170/8, 172/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 192/8, 198/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 74529 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 34410 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 2.17 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 76326 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 45907 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 11345 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 6.73 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 5497 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2197 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.1 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 32 Number of RIPE region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1423 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 548373764 Equivalent to 32 /8s, 175 /16s and 133 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 79.7 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 56320-58367 59392-61439, 196608-199679 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 5/8, 25/8, 31/8, 37/8, 46/8, 51/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 141/8, 145/8, 151/8, 176/8, 178/8, 185/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 20998 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 3524 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 5.96 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 23232 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 10439 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1009 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 23.02 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 258 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 243 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.5 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 24 Number of LACNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 630 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 72150560 Equivalent to 4 /8s, 76 /16s and 238 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 43.0 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 262144-263167 plus ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 177/8, 179/8, 181/8, 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 191/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 6759 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 1134 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 5.96 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 6994 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 2064 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 392 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 17.84 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 112 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 94 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.6 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 25 Number of AfriNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 3 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 23734528 Equivalent to 1 /8s, 106 /16s and 41 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 23.6 AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-328703 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 102/8, 105/8, 154/8, 196/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 17974 2051 678 47 PT TELEKOMUNIKASI INDONESIA 9829 1271 1068 25 BSNL National Internet Backbo 7545 1252 217 20 TPG Internet Pty Ltd 4766 1140 8409 574 Korea Telecom (KIX) 4755 1113 310 98 TATA Communications formerly 7552 1066 1054 9 Vietel Corporation 24560 1017 384 140 Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia 9498 884 276 49 BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 4808 726 1581 181 CNCGROUP IP network: China169 17488 577 135 181 Hathway IP Over Cable Interne Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 7029 2956 878 80 Windstream Communications Inc 6389 2739 3537 137 bellsouth.net, inc. 18566 1924 369 140 Covad Communications 22773 1729 2908 64 Cox Communications, Inc. 20115 1590 1568 569 Charter Communications 30036 1445 284 732 Mediacom Communications Corp 11492 1197 217 345 Cable One 7011 1157 311 676 Citizens Utilities 1785 1007 378 32 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 19262 952 4686 386 Verizon Global Networks Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8402 1561 538 12 Corbina telecom 15557 1182 2232 27 LDCOM NETWORKS 12479 818 759 79 Uni2 Autonomous System 20940 692 226 534 Akamai Technologies European 31148 678 35 6 FreeNet ISP 13188 656 100 8 Educational Network 58113 613 69 359 LIR DATACENTER TELECOM SRL 8551 528 336 40 Bezeq International 34984 386 131 63 BILISIM TELEKOM 6830 379 2066 213 UPC Distribution Services Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 28573 1780 1042 32 NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A 6503 1113 360 18 AVANTEL, S.A. 10620 1107 221 152 TVCABLE BOGOTA 8151 1064 2424 191 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 7303 997 761 111 Telecom Argentina Stet-France 18881 528 576 11 Global Village Telecom 27747 448 104 4 Telecentro S.A. 27947 423 54 65 Telconet S.A 7738 368 704 12 Telecomunicacoes da Bahia S.A 14420 348 61 64 CORPORACION NACIONAL DE TELEC Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8452 855 402 8 TEDATA 24863 663 125 28 LINKdotNET AS number 36998 534 48 3 MOBITEL 6713 412 539 11 Itissalat Al-MAGHRIB 24835 213 44 5 RAYA Telecom - Egypt 33776 190 12 10 Starcomms Nigeria Limited 29975 172 665 17 Vodacom 12258 142 14 51 Vodacom Internet Company 36923 138 20 4 Swift Networks Limited 29571 130 11 17 Ci Telecom Autonomous system Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 7029 2956 878 80 Windstream Communications Inc 6389 2739 3537 137 bellsouth.net, inc. 17974 2051 678 47 PT TELEKOMUNIKASI INDONESIA 18566 1924 369 140 Covad Communications 28573 1780 1042 32 NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A 22773 1729 2908 64 Cox Communications, Inc. 20115 1590 1568 569 Charter Communications 8402 1561 538 12 Corbina telecom 30036 1445 284 732 Mediacom Communications Corp 9829 1271 1068 25 BSNL National Internet Backbo Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 6389 2739 2602 bellsouth.net, inc. 17974 2051 2004 PT TELEKOMUNIKASI INDONESIA 18566 1924 1784 Covad Communications 28573 1780 1748 NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A 22773 1729 1665 Cox Communications, Inc. 8402 1561 1549 Corbina telecom 9829 1271 1246 BSNL National Internet Backbo 7545 1252 1232 TPG Internet Pty Ltd 15557 1182 1155 LDCOM NETWORKS 6503 1113 1095 AVANTEL, S.A. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 59414 UNALLOCATED 5.102.144.0/21 15576 Nextra backbone in D 59395 UNALLOCATED 5.133.16.0/21 12658 Dexterity Networks L 59407 UNALLOCATED 5.134.16.0/21 51167 Giga-Hosting GmbH 59521 UNALLOCATED 5.134.192.0/21 29518 Labs2 59581 UNALLOCATED 5.149.8.0/21 25577 C4L main AS 59457 UNALLOCATED 5.149.64.0/24 35567 DASTO semtel d.o.o. 59457 UNALLOCATED 5.149.65.0/24 35567 DASTO semtel d.o.o. 59457 UNALLOCATED 5.149.66.0/24 35567 DASTO semtel d.o.o. 59457 UNALLOCATED 5.149.67.0/24 35567 DASTO semtel d.o.o. 59457 UNALLOCATED 5.149.68.0/24 35567 DASTO semtel d.o.o. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 14.192.0.0/22 45464 Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.4.0/22 45464 Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.8.0/22 45464 Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.12.0/22 45464 Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.16.0/22 45464 Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.20.0/22 45464 Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.24.0/22 45464 Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.28.0/22 45464 Room 201, TGU Bldg 27.112.114.0/24 23884 Proimage Engineering and Comm 41.207.224.0/23 36898 UniNet Communications Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:18 /9:13 /10:26 /11:74 /12:215 /13:411 /14:694 /15:1253 /16:10162 /17:5045 /18:8043 /19:13810 /20:22484 /21:23365 /22:28877 /23:25440 /24:122522 /25:622 /26:961 /27:404 /28:89 /29:30 /30:7 /31:0 /32:17 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 7029 2468 2956 Windstream Communications Inc 18566 1890 1924 Covad Communications 6389 1534 2739 bellsouth.net, inc. 30036 1381 1445 Mediacom Communications Corp 8402 1292 1561 Corbina telecom 22773 1167 1729 Cox Communications, Inc. 11492 1160 1197 Cable One 15557 1156 1182 LDCOM NETWORKS 7011 907 1157 Citizens Utilities 6503 857 1113 AVANTEL, S.A. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:557 2:768 3:1 4:13 5:364 6:3 8:439 12:2006 13:1 14:647 15:11 16:3 17:6 20:27 23:204 24:1804 27:1324 31:1038 32:56 33:2 34:2 36:8 37:716 38:826 39:1 40:133 41:2852 42:155 44:3 46:1584 47:2 49:468 50:592 52:13 54:17 55:7 56:1 57:31 58:990 59:523 60:238 61:1284 62:991 63:2009 64:4264 65:2245 66:4520 67:2044 68:1157 69:3208 70:989 71:525 72:1861 74:2572 75:491 76:330 77:952 78:906 79:490 80:1276 81:956 82:633 83:534 84:622 85:1136 86:787 87:928 88:350 89:1809 90:301 91:5128 92:591 93:1481 94:1568 95:1268 96:414 97:317 98:892 99:39 100:23 101:261 103:1433 105:512 106:115 107:195 108:431 109:1908 110:795 111:956 112:430 113:686 114:652 115:847 116:888 117:729 118:934 119:1245 120:301 121:690 122:1657 123:1171 124:1356 125:1265 128:525 129:183 130:283 131:626 132:299 133:22 134:246 135:61 136:218 137:239 138:338 139:184 140:501 141:275 142:483 143:361 144:486 145:81 146:512 147:258 148:758 149:300 150:156 151:168 152:458 153:177 154:20 155:414 156:224 157:382 158:179 159:631 160:348 161:409 162:404 163:189 164:689 165:411 166:560 167:538 168:957 169:125 170:907 171:145 172:5 173:1717 174:632 175:440 176:603 177:1050 178:1692 180:1347 181:127 182:1037 183:223 184:590 186:2150 187:1078 188:1440 189:1545 190:1332 End of report

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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

BGP Update Report Interval: 19-Aug-12 -to- 23-Aug-12 (4 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS8402 36689 1.0% 20.9 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom" 2 - AS6389 30409 0.8% 9.0 -- BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. 3 - AS24560 29347 0.8% 28.2 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 4 - AS5800 28400 0.8% 110.9 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05800-06055 - DoD Network Information Center 5 - AS7029 26168 0.7% 6.3 -- WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc 6 - AS9829 26027 0.7% 19.7 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 7 - AS10620 25997 0.7% 12.4 -- Telmex Colombia S.A. 8 - AS22561 23738 0.7% 22.8 -- DIGITAL-TELEPORT - Digital Teleport Inc. 9 - AS11992 20720 0.6% 47.1 -- CENTENNIAL-PR - Centennial de Puerto Rico 10 - AS28573 19159 0.5% 9.3 -- NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A. 11 - AS4766 17816 0.5% 6.2 -- KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom 12 - AS18566 14895 0.4% 7.1 -- COVAD - Covad Communications Co. 13 - AS8151 14510 0.4% 9.7 -- Uninet S.A. de C.V. 14 - AS9498 14397 0.4% 14.3 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 15 - AS14117 14045 0.4% 24.9 -- Telefonica del Sur S.A. 16 - AS6503 14020 0.4% 9.1 -- Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V. 17 - AS1785 13856 0.4% 7.1 -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. 18 - AS17974 13372 0.4% 5.7 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 19 - AS27947 12804 0.4% 17.7 -- Telconet S.A 20 - AS20115 11843 0.3% 7.2 -- CHARTER-NET-HKY-NC - Charter Communications TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS38920 6621 0.2% 3310.5 -- TURKLANDBANK-TR TURKLANDBANK 2 - AS16535 4068 0.1% 1356.0 -- ECHOS-3 - Echostar Holding Purchasing Corporation 3 - AS57755 1156 0.0% 1156.0 -- FASTPRONET-AS PE Andrushkov Sergey Yur'yevich 4 - AS16536 1131 0.0% 1131.0 -- HPES - Hewlett-Packard Company 5 - AS44410 2791 0.1% 930.3 -- ENTEKHAB-AS ENTEKHAB INDUSTRIAL GROUP 6 - AS19859 1707 0.1% 853.5 -- FLAIR-DATA-SYSTEMS - Flair Data Systems 7 - AS38857 1266 0.0% 633.0 -- ESOFT-TRANSIT-AS-AP e.Soft Technologies Ltd. 8 - AS14680 1835 0.1% 611.7 -- REALE-6 - Auction.com 9 - AS27771 1042 0.0% 521.0 -- Instituto Venezolano de Investigaciones Cientificas 10 - AS42806 500 0.0% 500.0 -- TELECOM-AS Telecom Georgia 11 - AS56578 2214 0.1% 442.8 -- TS-AS Telesputnik Ltd 12 - AS29126 437 0.0% 437.0 -- DATIQ-AS Datiq B.V. 13 - AS32529 363 0.0% 363.0 -- CGI-FEDERAL-ASN-1 - CGI Federal 14 - AS37420 633 0.0% 316.5 -- UNIV-JOS 15 - AS22721 315 0.0% 315.0 -- SPC-1 - Saint Peter's College 16 - AS59400 299 0.0% 299.0 -- INFONOT-AS INFONOT SYSTEMS S.R.L. 17 - AS21023 294 0.0% 294.0 -- UPB-AS Joint Stock Company Ural Industrial Bank 18 - AS29398 292 0.0% 292.0 -- PETROBALTIC "Petrobaltic" S.A. 19 - AS57201 285 0.0% 285.0 -- EDF-AS Estonian Defence Forces 20 - AS51250 281 0.0% 281.0 -- ITE-PROTON-AS "Information technologies enterprise "Proton" LTD TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 109.161.64.0/19 10908 0.3% AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 2 - 184.159.130.0/23 8241 0.2% AS22561 -- DIGITAL-TELEPORT - Digital Teleport Inc. 3 - 184.157.224.0/19 6843 0.2% AS22561 -- DIGITAL-TELEPORT - Digital Teleport Inc. 4 - 194.156.165.0/24 6609 0.2% AS38920 -- TURKLANDBANK-TR TURKLANDBANK 5 - 182.64.0.0/16 6328 0.2% AS24560 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 6 - 200.46.0.0/19 6105 0.2% AS21599 -- NETDIRECT S.A. 7 - 103.3.24.0/24 5853 0.2% AS45474 -- NEXUSGUARD-AS-AP Suite 1602, 16/F., Tower 2, Nina Tower 8 - 122.161.0.0/16 5129 0.1% AS24560 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 9 - 67.47.194.0/23 4043 0.1% AS16535 -- ECHOS-3 - Echostar Holding Purchasing Corporation 10 - 202.56.215.0/24 3526 0.1% AS24560 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 11 - 139.139.19.0/24 3389 0.1% AS1562 -- DNIC-ASBLK-01550-01601 - DoD Network Information Center 12 - 123.252.208.0/24 3315 0.1% AS17762 -- HTIL-TTML-IN-AP Tata Teleservices Maharashtra Ltd 13 - 194.63.9.0/24 3127 0.1% AS1273 -- CW Cable and Wireless Worldwide plc 14 - 69.38.178.0/24 2444 0.1% AS19406 -- TWRS-MA - Towerstream I, Inc. 15 - 59.177.48.0/20 1911 0.1% AS17813 -- MTNL-AP Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. 16 - 182.19.32.0/19 1726 0.1% AS55410 -- VODAFONE-NET-AS-AP C48 Okhla Industrial Estate, New Delhi-110020 17 - 216.138.65.0/24 1700 0.1% AS19859 -- FLAIR-DATA-SYSTEMS - Flair Data Systems 18 - 65.82.30.0/24 1643 0.0% AS6197 -- BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc 19 - 182.19.48.0/20 1600 0.0% AS55410 -- VODAFONE-NET-AS-AP C48 Okhla Industrial Estate, New Delhi-110020 20 - 78.111.6.0/23 1591 0.0% AS44410 -- ENTEKHAB-AS ENTEKHAB INDUSTRIAL GROUP Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)nanog.org eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 24 21:13:04 2012 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 17-08-12 424967 244049 18-08-12 424787 243914 19-08-12 424787 245140 20-08-12 424803 244395 21-08-12 425136 244532 22-08-12 425245 244063 23-08-12 424952 244993 24-08-12 424791 245750 AS Summary 42054 Number of ASes in routing system 17571 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 3447 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7029 : WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc 113098976 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 24Aug12 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 425247 245781 179466 42.2% All ASes AS6389 3359 193 3166 94.3% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. AS28573 2051 57 1994 97.2% NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A. AS17974 2342 483 1859 79.4% TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia AS7029 3447 1767 1680 48.7% WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc AS18566 2086 422 1664 79.8% COVAD - Covad Communications Co. AS4766 2885 1403 1482 51.4% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS10620 2100 771 1329 63.3% Telmex Colombia S.A. AS4323 1575 391 1184 75.2% TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc. AS1785 1941 822 1119 57.7% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. AS7303 1565 452 1113 71.1% Telecom Argentina S.A. AS4755 1609 544 1065 66.2% TATACOMM-AS TATA Communications formerly VSNL is Leading ISP AS7552 1107 150 957 86.4% VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel Corporation AS6458 883 43 840 95.1% Telgua AS8151 1481 681 800 54.0% Uninet S.A. de C.V. AS18101 942 159 783 83.1% RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN Reliance Communications Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI AS4808 1130 356 774 68.5% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network AS13977 845 123 722 85.4% CTELCO - FAIRPOINT COMMUNICATIONS, INC. AS22773 1825 1139 686 37.6% ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communications Inc. AS2118 685 14 671 98.0% RELCOM-AS OOO "NPO Relcom" AS15557 1218 555 663 54.4% LDCOMNET Societe Francaise du Radiotelephone S.A AS855 683 52 631 92.4% CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant Regional Communications, Inc. AS3356 1102 472 630 57.2% LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications AS17676 707 83 624 88.3% GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp. AS30036 1449 827 622 42.9% MEDIACOM-ENTERPRISE-BUSINESS - Mediacom Communications Corp AS22561 1041 434 607 58.3% DIGITAL-TELEPORT - Digital Teleport Inc. AS19262 1002 404 598 59.7% VZGNI-TRANSIT - Verizon Online LLC AS24560 1038 441 597 57.5% AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services AS3549 1000 441 559 55.9% GBLX Global Crossing Ltd. AS4804 655 99 556 84.9% MPX-AS Microplex PTY LTD AS22047 580 34 546 94.1% VTR BANDA ANCHA S.A. Total 44333 13812 30521 68.8% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 10.86.64.32/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.86.64.36/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.86.65.32/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.86.65.36/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.255.255.0/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.255.255.4/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.255.255.8/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 14.192.0.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.4.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.8.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.12.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.16.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.20.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.24.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.28.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 27.112.114.0/24 AS23884 PROENNET-AS Proimage Engineering and Communication Co.,Ltd. 41.207.224.0/23 AS36898 Currant 41.222.80.0/21 AS37110 moztel-as 41.223.108.0/22 AS36966 EDL_AS Edgenet AS 62.61.220.0/24 AS24974 TACHYON-EU Tachyon Europe BV 62.61.221.0/24 AS24974 TACHYON-EU Tachyon Europe BV 64.66.32.0/20 AS18864 64.187.208.0/24 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 64.187.209.0/24 AS23005 SWITCH-COMMUNICATIONS - SWITCH Communications Group LLC 66.171.32.0/20 AS705 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 66.180.239.0/24 AS35888 VIGNETTE - VIGNETTE CORPORATION 66.207.32.0/20 AS23011 66.245.176.0/20 AS19318 NJIIX-AS-1 - NEW JERSEY INTERNATIONAL INTERNET EXCHANGE LLC 66.251.128.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.133.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.134.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.136.0/21 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.140.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.141.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.142.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.143.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 69.46.224.0/20 AS32592 HUNT-BROTHERS-OF-LOUISIANA-LLC - Hunt Brothers 69.46.233.0/24 AS32592 HUNT-BROTHERS-OF-LOUISIANA-LLC - Hunt Brothers 69.46.236.0/24 AS32592 HUNT-BROTHERS-OF-LOUISIANA-LLC - Hunt Brothers 70.34.112.0/20 AS27589 MOJOHOST - MOJOHOST 71.19.134.0/23 AS3313 INET-AS BT Italia S.p.A. 72.35.224.0/22 AS30097 NUWAVE - NuWave 72.35.229.0/24 AS30188 TELEVERGENCE - Televergence Solutions Inc. 72.35.232.0/21 AS30097 NUWAVE - NuWave 72.44.16.0/20 AS15054 NORTHEAST-TEXAS-BROADBAND-LLC - Northeast Texas Broadband, LLC 74.91.48.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.49.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.50.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.51.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.52.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.53.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.54.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.55.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.56.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.57.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.58.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.59.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.60.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.61.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.62.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.63.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.115.124.0/23 AS46540 74.115.126.0/24 AS11260 EASTLINK-HSI - EastLink 81.22.64.0/20 AS5511 OPENTRANSIT France Telecom S.A. 82.101.160.0/19 AS5511 OPENTRANSIT France Telecom S.A. 100.100.0.0/24 AS4847 CNIX-AP China Networks Inter-Exchange 110.34.44.0/22 AS12653 COMTONET KB Impuls Hellas S.A. 116.206.72.0/24 AS6461 MFNX MFN - Metromedia Fiber Network 116.206.85.0/24 AS6461 MFNX MFN - Metromedia Fiber Network 116.206.103.0/24 AS6461 MFNX MFN - Metromedia Fiber Network 117.120.56.0/21 AS4755 TATACOMM-AS TATA Communications formerly VSNL is Leading ISP 121.46.0.0/16 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 142.54.0.0/19 AS23498 CDSI - Cogeco Data Services LP 192.0.0.0/24 AS14745 INTERNAP-BLOCK-4 - Internap Network Services Corporation 198.18.0.0/15 AS14745 INTERNAP-BLOCK-4 - Internap Network Services Corporation 198.51.100.0/24 AS14745 INTERNAP-BLOCK-4 - Internap Network Services Corporation 200.1.112.0/24 AS29754 GO2TEL GO2TEL.COM INC. 200.6.49.0/24 AS23148 TERREMARK Terremark 200.24.73.0/24 AS26061 Equant Colombia 200.53.0.0/19 AS13878 Diveo do Brasil Telecomunicacoes Ltda 200.58.248.0/21 AS27849 200.75.184.0/21 AS14754 Telgua 200.75.184.0/24 AS14754 Telgua 200.75.185.0/24 AS14754 Telgua 200.75.186.0/24 AS14754 Telgua 200.75.187.0/24 AS14754 Telgua 200.75.188.0/24 AS14754 Telgua 200.75.190.0/24 AS14754 Telgua 200.75.191.0/24 AS14754 Telgua 202.1.224.0/24 AS10097 FLOWCOM Flow Communications 2/541 Kent St Sydney NSW 2000 202.8.106.0/24 AS9530 SHINSEGAE-AS SHINSEGAE I&C Co., Ltd. 202.58.113.0/24 AS19161 202.83.120.0/21 AS37972 202.83.124.0/24 AS37972 202.83.125.0/24 AS37972 202.83.126.0/24 AS37972 202.94.1.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network 202.151.40.0/21 AS24453 202.151.40.0/24 AS24453 202.151.42.0/24 AS24453 202.151.44.0/24 AS24453 202.151.46.0/24 AS24453 202.174.125.0/24 AS9498 BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 202.176.1.0/24 AS9942 COMINDICO-AP SOUL Converged Communications Australia 202.179.134.0/24 AS23966 LDN-AS-PK LINKdotNET Telecom Limited 202.180.224.0/19 AS1221 ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd 202.180.236.0/24 AS38472 UCMS-AS-AP UCMS 202.180.253.0/24 AS38472 UCMS-AS-AP UCMS 202.180.255.0/24 AS38472 UCMS-AS-AP UCMS 203.0.113.0/24 AS14745 INTERNAP-BLOCK-4 - Internap Network Services Corporation 203.23.1.0/24 AS18111 NETSPEED-AS-AP Netspeed Internet Communications 203.24.38.0/24 AS18111 NETSPEED-AS-AP Netspeed Internet Communications 203.30.127.0/24 AS18111 NETSPEED-AS-AP Netspeed Internet Communications 203.32.86.0/23 AS18111 NETSPEED-AS-AP Netspeed Internet Communications 203.32.86.0/24 AS18111 NETSPEED-AS-AP Netspeed Internet Communications 203.32.87.0/24 AS18111 NETSPEED-AS-AP Netspeed Internet Communications 203.32.188.0/24 AS1221 ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd 203.142.219.0/24 AS45149 204.9.116.0/22 AS30097 NUWAVE - NuWave 204.10.88.0/21 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 204.10.92.0/23 AS30097 NUWAVE - NuWave 204.10.94.0/23 AS30097 NUWAVE - NuWave 204.14.0.0/21 AS30693 EONIX-CORPORATION-AS-PHX01-WWW-INFINITIE-NET - Eonix Corporation 204.14.0.0/24 AS30693 EONIX-CORPORATION-AS-PHX01-WWW-INFINITIE-NET - Eonix Corporation 204.14.2.0/24 AS30693 EONIX-CORPORATION-AS-PHX01-WWW-INFINITIE-NET - Eonix Corporation 204.14.3.0/24 AS30693 EONIX-CORPORATION-AS-PHX01-WWW-INFINITIE-NET - Eonix Corporation 205.175.214.0/24 AS5583 ORANGE-BUSINESS-SERVICES-BENELUX France Telecom S.A. 206.197.184.0/24 AS23304 DATOTEL-STL-AS - Datotel LLC, a NetLabs LLC Company 207.174.131.0/24 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc 207.174.132.0/23 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc 207.174.152.0/23 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc 207.174.154.0/24 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc 207.174.155.0/24 AS26116 INDRA - Indra's Net Inc 207.174.200.0/24 AS22658 EARTHNET - Earthnet, Inc. 207.174.248.0/21 AS6653 PRIVATEI - privateI, LLC 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETPA - NuNet Inc. 208.83.53.0/24 AS40569 YGOMI-AS - Ygomi LLC 208.93.144.0/21 AS30693 EONIX-CORPORATION-AS-PHX01-WWW-INFINITIE-NET - Eonix Corporation 208.93.151.0/24 AS30693 EONIX-CORPORATION-AS-PHX01-WWW-INFINITIE-NET - Eonix Corporation 209.148.64.0/19 AS13773 TELNETCOMM - Telnet Communications 209.177.64.0/20 AS6461 MFNX MFN - Metromedia Fiber Network 209.205.192.0/19 AS20228 209.205.224.0/20 AS20228 209.213.0.0/20 AS33005 ELTOPIA - Eltopia.com, LLC 213.150.204.0/24 AS29338 AFOL-AS Used by Africaonline Operations 216.12.160.0/20 AS26627 AS-PILOSOFT - Pilosoft, Inc. 216.21.160.0/20 AS27876 American Data Networks 216.146.0.0/19 AS11915 TELWEST-NETWORK-SVCS-STATIC - TEL WEST COMMUNICATIONS LLC 216.194.160.0/20 AS27876 American Data Networks Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)nanog.org eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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RE: Bird vs Quagga revisited (MP-BGP RR)
by Raymond Burkholder 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

> > > Of those who have used Quagga or Bird, or anything else, > > would either of them be appropriate and/or well suited for > > use as an iBGP blackhole route server? > To expand the opinion set, how do Quagga, Bird, exaBGP, OpenBGPd hold up for handling Multi-Protocol BGP Route Reflector duties in a BGP/MPLS environment for a smaller ISP? Quagga's documentation indicates that is does handle the requirements. Any one able to offer up real life experiences? Or is it better to handle in a physical router? We being C based. Ray. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: Fair Use Policy
by Shahab Vahabzadeh 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

Dear Owen, Would you please describe this some how more in my bussiness plan? I have both limited and unlimited users. For example I have these services in my package: 512Kb-5GB-1Month 256Kb-Unlimit-1Month And like this. Thanks On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Owen DeLong <owen(a)delong.com> wrote: > Right... more specific aspect of the same coin. If you have adequate > facilities, you don't need to shape users. > If you have users that are overconsuming for your pricing model, there are > two good solutions: > > 1. Raise the prices enough for everyone that you can absorb these users. > 2. Implement usage-based charges (or usage based charges above a certain > usage tier) that cause these users to either self-regulate or pay for the > necessary > upgrades to your infrastructure. > > Claiming to deliver "unlimited" service and then shaping it is, IMHO, a > questionable business practice at best. > > Owen > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:06 , Shahab Vahabzadeh <sh.vahabzadeh(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > What I am talking mostly is some services like COA, in which you can > change users shape time-base and periodically without disconnecting them. > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Owen DeLong <owen(a)delong.com> wrote: > >> If you want to control usage that way, sell a metered product. Bill the >> heavy users more for their usage. >> >> Otherwise, price your services such that you can build adequate upstream >> capacity to serve your users. >> >> I'm not a fan of using "rateshaping" (which is what you are describing) >> to cover for inadequate facilities. >> >> Owen >> >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 11:57 , Shahab Vahabzadeh <sh.vahabzadeh(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Owen, >> As you know in pick time of internet usage like midnight in which we have >> free-access times too, some users which really want to use internet for >> their daily usage and not downloading or using peer-to-peer services >> unfairly affecting this problem. >> Some companies are using some polices for users to solve this problem. >> Do you have any Idea? >> Thanks >> >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Owen DeLong <owen(a)delong.com> wrote: >> >>> I think the first step would be to define what you mean by fair use. >>> >>> Are you talking in the DMCA sense of the term, the legal sense of the >>> term as applies >>> to IP in other areas, or something else? >>> >>> Owen >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 11:40 , Shahab Vahabzadeh <sh.vahabzadeh(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Hello Everybody, >>> > Has any body any good and easy setup idea for "Fair Use Policy" >>> service for >>> > my xdsl customers?! >>> > Can do this in the BRAS side and nothing done with accounting and >>> radius? >>> > Thanks >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Regards, >>> > Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator >>> > >>> > Cell Phone: +1 (415) 871 0742 >>> > PGP Key Fingerprint = 8E34 B335 D702 0CA7 5A81 C2EE 76A2 46C2 5367 >>> BF90 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator >> >> Cell Phone: +1 (415) 871 0742 >> PGP Key Fingerprint = 8E34 B335 D702 0CA7 5A81 C2EE 76A2 46C2 5367 BF90 >> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator > > Cell Phone: +1 (415) 871 0742 > PGP Key Fingerprint = 8E34 B335 D702 0CA7 5A81 C2EE 76A2 46C2 5367 BF90 > > > -- Regards, Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator Cell Phone: +1 (415) 871 0742 PGP Key Fingerprint = 8E34 B335 D702 0CA7 5A81 C2EE 76A2 46C2 5367 BF90

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Re: Copyright infringement notice
by Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:16 AM, groupstudytac groupstudytac > <groupstudytac(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I get copyright notices from companies like Irdeto , saying that one of my >> customers IP is downloading unauthorized material using bittorent. I also >> have processes in place to handle such notices . >> >> Can anyone share how he handles such notices in his ISP environment , i am >> ready to adapt some valid steps to improve the existing process. >> >> Or should i just ignore such messages ? > > If you're in the U.S., the process for handling these notices is > prescribed by law, specifically the Digital Millennium Copyright Act > (search: DMCA takedown notice). It details what the infringement > notice must include in order to be actionable and what steps the ISP > must take on receipt of an actionable notice. It also prescribes > procedures for the alleged infringer to object and for the ISP to > restore the material following an objection. > > Follow the procedures described in the law to retain your immunity as > an ISP. Consult a local lawyer if you don't find them sufficiently > obvious. The thing that muddies this is that, as I understand it, the notice was not for takedown (i.e. there is not an allegation that they are *hosting* infringing material) - it is a notice that one of their users *downloaded* copyrighted material (IP, do I have that right?) This is part of the RIAA's "graduated response" program, to which several major ISPs, including AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast, have agreed. Basically, the accuser contacts the ISP, and the ISP sends a warning (a "copyright alert") to their user (without giving up the user to the accuser). If the same user is accused subsequently, they get another, sterner warning. In total there is a series of six warnings, with "mitigation measures" accompanying the fifth and sixth warning. If I were counseling an ISP - whether one that was part of the agreement, or not - I would say that the first order is to *put your policy around copyright alerts in writing* - asap - and make it as specific as possible - and then *ALWAYS FOLLOW IT EVERY SINGLE TIME*. It almost (I say almost) doesn't matter what the policy is so long as it's reasonable, but it matters that it be followed to the letter every time, no exceptions. And, if you are an ISP that isn't part of the agreement with the RIAA, it's still not a bad idea to structure your policy to follow the six "copyright alert" structure, because there is some precedent there, and then you come off looking like you are trying to do the right thing, which will make you a less easy target. These two articles give a pretty good explanation of the deal: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/03/graduated-response-deal-steamrollers-… http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/07/major-isps-agree-to-six-strikes-… Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Esq CEO/President Institute for Social Internet Public Policy http://www.ISIPP.com Member, Cal. Bar Cyberspace Law Committee ISIPP Email Accreditation: http://www.SuretyMail.com

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