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Re: Interested in input on tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology
by Brandon Butterworth 13 May '11

13 May '11

> would be interested to know what people think > is good about tunnels as an IPv6 transition technology, and what people > think is bad about tunnels. The good thing about tunnels is people can build them where there's no proper network The bad thing about tunnels is people build them instead of a proper network brandon

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Comcast Bulk/Metro Ethernet
by Thomas Donnelly 13 May '11

13 May '11

Is there anyone from the Comcast Bulk or Metro Ethernet departments that can contact me off list? Thanks -=Tom

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Ok, this is getting embarassing.
by Jay Ashworth 13 May '11

13 May '11

There's something happening here. What it is, ain't exactly clear. I'm hoping it's my mail client rather than my brain. In any event, I'll double check my mail headers before hitting send more carefully next time. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra(a)baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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Re: [rt-users] Work with Google Apps?
by Jay Ashworth 12 May '11

12 May '11

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gavin Henry" <gavin.henry(a)gmail.com> > Can this be done? No; it's not possible for people to work with Google Apps. Cheers, -- jr 'well, not *wise*, anyway' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra(a)baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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Pirate Bay suffering unreachable errors
by Steve Schultze 12 May '11

12 May '11

Anybody on this list have any insights on the reports of Pirate Bay unreachability? http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-blocked-the-pirate-bay-110512/ http://www.fastcompany.com/1752986/why-is-comcast-blocking-the-pirate-bay http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/12/is-comcast-blocking-the-pirate-bay/

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23,000 IP addresses
by Marshall Eubanks 12 May '11

12 May '11

A Federal Judge has decided to let the "U.S. Copyright Group" subpoena ISPs over 23,000 alleged downloads of some Sylvester Stallone movie I have never heard of; subpoenas are expected to go out this week. I thought that there might be some interest in the list of these addresses : http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2011/05/expendibleipaddresses… If you have IP addresses on this list, expect to receive papers shortly. Here is more of the backstory : http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/biggest-bittorrent-case/ This is turning into quite a legal racket (get order $ 3000 for sending a threatening letter); I expect to see a lot more of this until some sense returns to the legal system. Regards Marshall

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How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...)
by Jay Ashworth 12 May '11

12 May '11

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ryan Malayter" <malayter(a)gmail.com> > On Apr 28, 11:14 pm, Jay Ashworth <j...(a)baylink.com> wrote: > > > (cough)multicast(cough) > > > > But... but... how do we count the viewers, then? > > Isn't the real problem with global multicast: "How do we ultimately > bill the broadcaster for all that traffic amplification that happened > *inside* every other AS?" It seems like you'd have to do per-packet > accounting at every router, and coordinate billing/reporting amongst > all providers that saw those packets. See, now, I expected to hear that objection. Internet engineers are prone to try to solve this problem in favor of the viewer, and their networks -- with their networks winning in case of a push. *Program providers*, OTOH, have a completely different set of "optimal" parameters -- many of which are directly at odds with that approach, and most of which are completely ignored by Internet engineering types when working on this stuff. And OTGH, even if, say, a local TV station wanted to let people do this sort of thing, *the people they get their programs from* -- both at the Network and the "provider to Network" level -- will expect to have their own say in the matter. *Certainly* there should be a Multicast Cloud, and an easy way for program providers to dump things into it. But, as you say, who's going to pay for it is an issue, and how one enforces that is another even more contentious one. Layer 9 is a *bitch*, isn't it? So: if I *wanted* to put my video in the multicast cloud... how would I do it? I do, after all, now work for a TV network which sells things; this is not an idle question for me: the more people who can see me, the better. Is it a nice, packaged howto, with easily built code? Pointers? Cause it seems to me that the fewer speedbumps there are along the way, the sooner it will happen, all that nassty, nassty commerce, notwithstanding. Cheers, -- jra

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Japan electrical power?
by Robert Boyle 11 May '11

11 May '11

Hello, This is sort of off-topic, but no where near as much as half of the topics on NANOG. It is relevant to netops for anyone who has a presence in Japan. Does anyone on NANOG have firsthand in-depth knowledge of the electrical system in Japan? I know voltage varies from town to town and prefecture to prefecture. It seems most is 90V-110V. Do most homes and businesses have a single leg or do they have 200-220V available? Are most circuit breakers 15A? Do they use 20A anywhere? What is used in commercial settings? What is the typical service to a home? 60A, 100A, 200A? I have searched, but haven't found enough definitive info to be useful. I am designing some new equipment and Japan is the worst case scenario from a power standpoint because they use such a low line voltage. If my gear works in rocky & mountainous low-voltage Japan, it will work anywhere. Any information or good links would be appreciated. I can't give out any info on the new gear yet until some key IP is protected. It doesn't compete with anything on the market today. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Domo arigato! -Robert "Well done is better than well said." - Benjamin Franklin

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OT: Jay Adelson Keynote Video?
by Tom Daly 11 May '11

11 May '11

Folks, At NANOG 43, Jay Adelson had a video clip in his presentation which celebrated the hilarity that customers create for network engineers. Does anyone have a link to the video? A review of the abstract (http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog43/abstracts.php?pt=NDMmbmFub2c0Mw==&nm=nano…) and google'ing high and low yielding no results. I seem to recall it being on BitGravity, but I don't have the URL. Tom -- Tom Daly, CTO, Dynamic Network Services, Inc. ### We're hiring software engineers, network engineers, and web developers. Learn more at http://dyn.com/why-dyn/careers. ###

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.io registrar
by Jeremy Kister 11 May '11

11 May '11

Does anyone know of a competent .io registrar who charges in the <= $75/yr area ? I've been using tierra.net (domaindiscover.com) but they continually break my domains. this year, although their website says my domain expires 4/2012, my domain stopped working today. the .io servers aren't serving records, and nic.io says the domain expired 4/8/2011. i got a hold of them this morning got a ticket -- but after 4 hours still no response. also, although nic.io lists a bunch of .io registrars, when I called them they almost all say "we don't register .io" :D -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./

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