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Re: news from Google
by Scott Weeks 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

--- richard(a)bennett.com wrote: From: Richard Bennett <richard(a)bennett.com> Microsoft just wants your cash, but Google wants your personal information so they can sell it over and over again. The entire Google ------------------------------------------- You need to study up on your corporate competition tactics more... scott

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Google Privacy (was Re: news from Google)
by Seth Mattinen 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Richard Bennett wrote: > Microsoft just wants your cash, but Google wants your personal > information so they can sell it over and over again. The entire Google > business model is at odds with notions of personal privacy, so it's not > even a question of the occasional excess on their part. Schmidt did what > Michael Kinsey calls a gaffe: when a politician accidentally tells the > truth. > Completely agree. I have always tried to tell people as much with Google, and they'd just point to the privacy policy, but now there's a juicy quote from the top of the food chain to counter with. Policy can (and will) change. ~Seth

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Analysis Role Account 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfs(a)cisco.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 12 Dec, 2009 Report Website: http://thyme.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 306287 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 142533 Deaggregation factor: 2.15 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 150582 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 32907 Prefixes per ASN: 9.31 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 28575 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 13946 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 4332 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 99 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 3.6 Max AS path length visible: 24 Max AS path prepend of ASN (12026) 22 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 994 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 135 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 351 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 301 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 162 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2160649728 Equivalent to 128 /8s, 200 /16s and 230 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 58.3 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 66.1 Percentage of available address space allocated: 88.2 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 80.3 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 147120 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 73696 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 25498 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 2.89 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 70372 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 31050 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 3895 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 18.07 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1062 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 607 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 3.6 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 23 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 483880224 Equivalent to 28 /8s, 215 /16s and 109 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 80.1 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079 55296-56319, 131072-132095 APNIC Address Blocks 43/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 128493 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 67389 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 1.91 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 103031 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 38828 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 13397 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 7.69 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 5182 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1322 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 3.3 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 24 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 733616416 Equivalent to 43 /8s, 186 /16s and 25 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 64.3 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 393216-394239 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 45/8, 47/8, 48/8, 52/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 108/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 70531 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 41263 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 1.71 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 63953 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 42662 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 13876 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 4.61 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 7219 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2088 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 3.9 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 23 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 406627904 Equivalent to 24 /8s, 60 /16s and 166 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 75.7 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 196608-197631 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 25/8, 46/8, 51/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 178/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 26775 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 6482 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.13 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 25094 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 13714 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1220 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 20.57 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 390 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 201 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.0 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 20 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 69110272 Equivalent to 4 /8s, 30 /16s and 138 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 68.7 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 262144-263167 plus ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 5929 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 1581 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.75 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 4339 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 1526 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 335 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 12.95 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 93 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 72 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 3.8 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 14305536 Equivalent to 0 /8s, 218 /16s and 73 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 42.6 AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-328703 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4766 1780 7509 461 Korea Telecom (KIX) 17488 1459 143 132 Hathway IP Over Cable Interne 4755 1278 295 147 TATA Communications formerly 4134 1012 19458 393 CHINANET-BACKBONE 9583 1007 75 500 Sify Limited 18101 992 204 34 Reliance Infocom Ltd Internet 7545 917 198 98 TPG Internet Pty Ltd 17974 849 270 58 PT TELEKOMUNIKASI INDONESIA 9829 832 674 22 BSNL National Internet Backbo 24560 810 294 176 Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6389 4232 3895 311 bellsouth.net, inc. 4323 3770 1068 401 Time Warner Telecom 1785 1791 699 135 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 7018 1588 5807 1031 AT&T WorldNet Services 20115 1525 1483 666 Charter Communications 2386 1293 632 933 AT&T Data Communications Serv 3356 1202 10945 426 Level 3 Communications, LLC 6478 1169 253 330 AT&T Worldnet Services 11492 1145 222 14 Cable One 22773 1123 2600 66 Cox Communications, Inc. Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 30890 516 98 207 Evolva Telecom 9198 471 138 12 Kazakhtelecom Data Network Ad 35805 465 40 5 United Telecom of Georgia 3292 447 1903 392 TDC Tele Danmark 702 418 1837 336 UUNET - Commercial IP service 8551 377 354 41 Bezeq International 8866 375 110 23 Bulgarian Telecommunication C 3320 361 7068 307 Deutsche Telekom AG 3215 350 3160 112 France Telecom Transpac 3301 347 1411 303 TeliaNet Sweden Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8151 1587 2899 231 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 10620 1002 223 136 TVCABLE BOGOTA 28573 821 669 84 NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A 7303 665 351 96 Telecom Argentina Stet-France 22047 545 302 14 VTR PUNTO NET S.A. 11830 473 308 59 Instituto Costarricense de El 11172 446 99 70 Servicios Alestra S.A de C.V 14117 437 29 11 Telefonica del Sur S.A. 7738 432 858 29 Telecomunicacoes da Bahia S.A 6503 430 163 181 AVANTEL, S.A. Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8452 1032 444 8 TEDATA 24863 709 143 52 LINKdotNET AS number 3741 273 857 233 The Internet Solution 2018 178 196 100 Tertiary Education Network 6713 175 167 12 Itissalat Al-MAGHRIB 29571 152 19 9 Ci Telecom Autonomous system 29975 134 506 15 Vodacom 5536 121 8 18 Internet Egypt Network 5713 116 508 67 Telkom SA Ltd 33776 112 6 14 Starcomms Nigeria Limited Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6389 4232 3895 311 bellsouth.net, inc. 4323 3770 1068 401 Time Warner Telecom 1785 1791 699 135 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 4766 1780 7509 461 Korea Telecom (KIX) 7018 1588 5807 1031 AT&T WorldNet Services 8151 1587 2899 231 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 20115 1525 1483 666 Charter Communications 17488 1459 143 132 Hathway IP Over Cable Interne 2386 1293 632 933 AT&T Data Communications Serv 4755 1278 295 147 TATA Communications formerly Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 4323 3770 3369 Time Warner Telecom 1785 1791 1656 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 8151 1587 1356 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 17488 1459 1327 Hathway IP Over Cable Interne 4766 1780 1319 Korea Telecom (KIX) 4755 1278 1131 TATA Communications formerly 11492 1145 1131 Cable One 22773 1123 1057 Cox Communications, Inc. 18566 1059 1049 Covad Communications 8452 1032 1024 TEDATA Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 16927 UNALLOCATED 12.0.252.0/23 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 15132 UNALLOCATED 12.9.150.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 32567 UNALLOCATED 12.14.170.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 13746 UNALLOCATED 12.24.56.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 32567 UNALLOCATED 12.25.107.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 26973 UNALLOCATED 12.39.152.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 26973 UNALLOCATED 12.39.154.0/23 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 26973 UNALLOCATED 12.39.159.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 32326 UNALLOCATED 12.40.49.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic 25639 UNALLOCATED 12.41.169.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Servic Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 2.0.0.0/16 12654 RIPE NCC RIS Project 2.1.0.0/21 12654 RIPE NCC RIS Project 2.1.24.0/24 12654 RIPE NCC RIS Project 41.223.92.0/22 36936 >>UNKNOWN<< 41.223.188.0/24 22351 Intelsat 41.223.189.0/24 26452 Local Communications Networks 46.0.0.0/16 12654 RIPE NCC RIS Project 46.1.0.0/21 12654 RIPE NCC RIS Project 46.1.24.0/24 12654 RIPE NCC RIS Project 62.61.220.0/24 24974 Tachyon Europe BV - Wireless Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:21 /9:10 /10:25 /11:65 /12:180 /13:379 /14:645 /15:1228 /16:10813 /17:5022 /18:8568 /19:17677 /20:21536 /21:21484 /22:27765 /23:27724 /24:160197 /25:937 /26:1160 /27:589 /28:235 /29:11 /30:8 /31:0 /32:8 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 6389 2768 4232 bellsouth.net, inc. 4323 2370 3770 Time Warner Telecom 4766 1431 1780 Korea Telecom (KIX) 1785 1256 1791 PaeTec Communications, Inc. 17488 1225 1459 Hathway IP Over Cable Interne 11492 1067 1145 Cable One 18566 1040 1059 Covad Communications 7018 954 1588 AT&T WorldNet Services 8452 928 1032 TEDATA 10620 907 1002 TVCABLE BOGOTA Complete listing at http://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:1 2:1 4:13 8:225 12:2057 13:9 15:22 16:3 17:5 20:37 24:1283 32:49 38:629 40:99 41:1830 43:1 44:3 46:1 47:21 52:6 55:2 56:2 57:24 58:648 59:654 60:446 61:1102 62:971 63:2009 64:3769 65:2372 66:4103 67:1779 68:1026 69:2824 70:686 71:232 72:1879 73:2 74:2037 75:190 76:361 77:835 78:599 79:407 80:935 81:811 82:465 83:442 84:535 85:1021 86:381 87:677 88:420 89:1566 90:63 91:2654 92:445 93:1114 94:1343 95:834 96:183 97:285 98:403 99:24 109:186 110:278 111:499 112:157 113:205 114:288 115:478 116:1079 117:592 118:371 119:809 120:144 121:833 122:1311 123:796 124:1018 125:1341 128:212 129:201 130:134 131:460 132:83 133:16 134:183 135:41 136:229 137:168 138:239 139:81 140:456 141:121 142:375 143:340 144:390 145:53 146:390 147:173 148:568 149:192 150:148 151:173 152:219 153:161 154:2 155:270 156:171 157:326 158:97 159:357 160:298 161:174 162:281 163:163 164:308 165:471 166:490 167:392 168:753 169:159 170:563 171:42 172:1 173:391 174:442 180:205 183:162 184:3 186:194 187:166 188:1058 189:654 190:3401 192:5718 193:4321 194:3371 195:2780 196:1196 198:3565 199:3383 200:5247 201:1433 202:7978 203:8286 204:3988 205:2167 206:2407 207:3046 208:3962 209:3383 210:2562 211:1147 212:1645 213:1642 214:247 215:58 216:4423 217:1373 218:480 219:455 220:1146 221:448 222:300 End of report

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About IPv6 performance
by David Pérez 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Dear all: I've been searching the web for tests or reports about how performance in current IP boxes (core routers, BRAS, edge routers...) is impacted when enabling IPv6, but haven't been able to find anything useful, but a couple of reports dated in 2002 and 2004: http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=63606 http://www.ipv6-tf.com.pt/documentos/geral/bii_v6_interop.pdf I already assume some impacts in memory for IPv6 prefixes, or CPU usage... but don't clearly see other impacts (number of sessions...). I know performance will mainly depend on which service structure is selected (PPPoE, DHCPv6...), but... could anybody point to a report that deals with all these issues? Thank you, David Pérez.

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Qwest mail admin contact?
by randal k 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

If one is listening, can I get a Qwest mail admin to drop me a line off-list? Numerous emails to postmaster, abuse, relay, etc all seem to be deadends. Thanks, Randal

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Looking for MIX/NOTA members
by Tuc 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Hi, I know this is NAnog (Which NOTA may qualify for being in Miami) but I'm in need of help for MIX too. I'm involved with a client that had their range advertised by another AS. We were told by all parties involved that it has stopped, but I still seem to be seeing it on RIPE's MIX and NOTA looking glass. If anyone knows LG's other than RIPE that have access into MIX/NOTA (I did try HE.NET and PCH.NET, they didn't come up with the information I'm looking for) or can do a "sho ip bgp regex _13913$" and email me PRIVATELY, I'd appreciate. Thanks, Tuc

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Linux shaping packet loss
by Chris 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Hi All, It would be appreciated if anyone using TC on Linux for shaping could please help with an intermittent problem on an egress interface. I'm seeing about ten per cent of packet loss for all classes at seemingly quiet times and random parts of the day using about forty classes and 250Mbps. I've isolated it to the egress HTB qdisc. Any TC experts out there have a spare minute please ? Any thoughts on the RED qdisc ? Thanks very much, Chris

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Linux Network Generator
by Joseph Jackson 10 Dec '09

10 Dec '09

Hey list, I've been doing some stress testing of a router this week using Network Traffic Generator from http://sourceforge.net/projects/traffic/ and while it works well I was wondering what other generators you all have used and find helpful. Maybe something that Traffic doesn't do like provide response times and other stats.. tho I realize iperf would be a better app for that.

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Cogent admin request
by Chris Cariffe 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

if there's a Cogent NOC admin here, can you please contact me privately, off the list. thanks. -c

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Leaving public peering?
by Lasher, Donn 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

This year I've been seeing what appears to be an increasing trend among service providers.. making the decision to leave public peering. I'm sure others on this list as seeing that trend as well. I have a couple of guesses, but I'm curious , and I wanted to get some other thoughts as to the "why". I don't have exact numbers, but off the top of my head, I'd guess somewhere around two dozen of our peers have left various peering exchanges. Quick couple I checked still appear to be operational as a company, so I'm willing to remove "death" as a valid reason. I realized that paid transit is down at almost obscene levels, but is that enough of a reason to increase hop-count, latencies, etc? Why disconnect from public mostly-free peering? -donn

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