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Re: What DNS Is Not
by Scott Weeks 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

--- marka(a)isc.org wrote: From: Mark Andrews <marka(a)isc.org> > Telefonica is doing that here, and not onlw for www. hostnames... > > # nmap nonexist.merit.edu. It would be intersting to see what would happen if MERIT issued a cease and decist request for using their domain name without permission. --------------------------------------------- I sure would like to have a front row seat for that! :-) scott

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Wan acceleration
by Bill Lewis 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Anyone in the group using hardware based wan acceleration and have suggestions? If so, anyone using it over a static IPSEC Cisco VPN link (or other vendor)? I've seen a demo of Cisco WAAS and why they think it's best of breed. Spoke to F5, theirs is still in beta so they suggested Riverbed. I've been told that Riverbed (unlike Cisco) reverse engineers protocols to allow for pass-through though, which worries me in case of failure. Cisco on the other hand licenses the protocols from the various vendors. Other vendors I'm looking at as possibilities are RocketConnect, RadWare, BlueCoat, and Juniper. My connectivity is a tier 2 Metro E at one site (policed at 90Mbps), Tier 1 OC3 at other. Reply to post, or off list. Cheers, Bill Lewis

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by Adam Gray 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

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APEWS.ORG
by Gregory Edigarov 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Hello Everybody, Somebody from apews, could you please contact me off list? Thank you. -- With best regards, Gregory Edigarov

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Recommend DSLAM for Apartment Bldg
by Lorell Hathcock 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

All: I've got access to the copper pairs in an apartment building of approximately 800 units. I'd like to get a modest, functional, scalable, affordable DSLAM. My WAN connection is an ethernet handoff. I've been looking at the Adtran 1100F and 1200F with 1148 modules. http://www.adtran.com/web/page/portal/Adtran/group/3451 http://www.adtran.com/web/page/portal/Adtran/group/3453 Once I reach the top capacity of these (4 x 48 = 192) , I could just start again with another 1100 or 1200 shelf and go on up from there. Any recommendations? Also, can anyone recommend an outsourced tech support group that speaks Korean and Chinese? Sincerely, Lorell Hathcock OfficeConnect.net | 832-665-3400 x101 (o) | 713-992-2343 (f) | lorell(a)officeconnect.net Texas State Security Contractor License | ONSSI Certified Channel Partner Axis Communications Channel Partner | BICSI Corporate Member Leviton Authorized Installer

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Juniper M120 Alternatives
by Gary Mackenzie 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Having slightly lost track of what everybody is using for peering routers these days, what is the consensus about the best alternative to Juniper M series routers? I'm asking as the prices to upgrade to 10Gbit capable Juniper units (ie. an M120) seem prohibitively high so I'm looking to get a feel for the alternatives. The other obvious platform would appear to be a Cisco XR 12404 (or similar depending on line card requirements) but is anything else in common use as a peering platform? Cheers for any input. Rgds Gary

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Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation
by Gadi Evron 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation. The group holds top experts on internet technology, critical infrastructure, and internet governance, from around the globe. Together, we discuss definitions, problems, challenges and solutions in securing and assuring the reliability of the global internet infrastructure, which is critical infrastructure for a growing number of nations, corporations and indeed, individuals -- world wide. The group started as a closed and private forum, to discuss technical and operational risks, as other venues limited discussion of critical internet resources to politically charged subjects such ascontrol of ICANN and ARIN, thus overshadowing other important aspects. As of November 18th 2009, the list is open for public access, to advance public awareness of the issues, and bring new talent on board. The group is hosted by the ISOTF, but is governed by members. Note: SCADA, network operations, and other related issues should be discussed in the appropriate forums, elsewhere. This group deals with the internet. To subscribe: http://isotf.org/mailman/listinfo/cii Gadi Evron for ISOTF-CII-WG.

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Policy News
by Jerry Dixon 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

If you can make it they can tax it :/ Article in today's Wall Street Journal: "WASHINGTON -- Federal regulators are considering whether the government should take greater control of the Internet and ask consumers to pay higher phone charges in order to provide all Americans with cheaper access to broadband Internet service. The Federal Communications Commission Wednesday will lay out the case for expanding broadband Internet service, outlining current obstacles to making it widely available. The agency is considering whether to force Internet providers to share their networks with rivals and raise fees charged on consumer phone bills to pay for the broader access." Schatz, A. *Feds mull rules, fees to spur net access - WSJ.com.* Retrieved 11/18/2009, 2009, from http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125850641299752981.html -Jerry -- jerry(a)jdixon.com

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AT&T BGP Setup
by Shon Elliott 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Hey everyone. I didn't really want to ask this out here, but wasn't sure who else I could ask, but does anyone here have BGP setup with AT&T as well as to other providers? Could you give me a phone number for a rep? Our AT&T reps are telling us they won't allow us to announce IP we get from AT&T and our own IP out our other connections, and vice versa where we cannot announce our IP address and IP addresses we have from AT&T out to through their circuit via like an Optiman setup. So basically, if you have a rep that some answers, could you forward me their phone number off-list? Thanks! -S

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Re: Policy News
by Chris Meidinger 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

On 18.11.2009, at 20:08, Jeff Saxe wrote: > I don't think Steve meant a way to stop the CPU / process thread of retrieving email if it is hung talking to an email server, although thank you for that. I believe Steve meant "I want to keep reading the NANOG mailing list in general, but this particular message thread has zero interest to me, so as any new emails come in that are replies to replies to replies to this thread, just suppress them so I don't have to even hit Delete.". Something like that. Ah, I thought you meant threads were blocking Mail.app from processing messages in other mailboxes. I subscribe to several imap boxes with over half a million messages in them, so I use activity monitor to kill sync all the time. Mail.app seems to not process anything else on the same account as long as it's busy processing a subscription for a particular mailbox, which can take forever in some cases. As to the actual question, I use Mail.app in threaded mode anyway. When I'm not interested in a thread, I just let it collect messages and mark it as read every couple of days. I'm not aware of any way to tell Mail.app to quit showing messages from a particular thread. Chris

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