September 2004 - Test - lists.nanog.org

DOJ Opposes ALLTELL petition
by Hannigan, Martin 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Folks, operational value is CALEA compliance. FYI. Note: Randy Bush has generously contributed cycles to a list at PSG.COM to engage in lawful intercept discussions (technical/psuedo-legal) that are off-topic to NANOG. If enough people indicate interest in a private followup, I'll summarize and announce back to the list. The U.S. Department of Justice filed a Statement of Non-Support with the FCC on August 18, 2004, opposing the February 4, 2004 petition of ALLTEL Communications, Inc. ("ALLTEL") to extend the CALEA compliance deadline to January 30, 2006, for its packet-mode communications. Specifically, DOJ opposes the granting of any further extensions of the CALEA packet-mode compliance deadline for ALLTEL's "Touch2Talk" push-to-talk service. http://www.askcalea.net/lefilings.html Our AskCALEA Forums are continuously updated with new important information in your area of interest. -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 VeriSign, Inc. (w) 703-948-7018 Network Engineer IV Operations & Infrastructure hannigan(a)verisign.com

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Hurricane Frances telecommunication outages
by Sean Donelan 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Florida EOC reports 1.1 million wireline customer outages state-wide. 30% cell phone coverage outage reported. Coordinating communication set up for priority T1 lines, POTS, DSL etc. Bellsouth: 775,000 customer outages statewide (13.1% without service) Palm Beach, Indian River, St. Lucie and Martin Counties: (29.5%) Orange, Brevard and Volusia Counties: (19.5%) Plus other outages in various service areas Sprint: 174,000 (central and southern Florida) Verizon: 8,100 Adelphia Cable: evaluating damage Comcast TV Cable: evaluating damage

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RE: XP SP2 other than windows update
by Michel Py 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Nanog folk, Last week, I downloaded XP2 SP2 on one the major P2P networks (eDonkey). Preliminary/FYI: None of the large organizations I am involved with has deployed SP2 on a large scale yet. Users that request it will likely get it (from a share on a corporate server that is); some organizations are also testing their SP2 image by rolling out some of the new PCs with SP2; help desks are still building FAQs about it as problems generated by early adopters pop in. I expect most to push it to the desktop with SMS or similar within a month. Hard facts: - The P2P download took two hours. Ymmv. - The file was legit (I did a binary compare with the original; matches). The file I downloaded is WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe. This is the full install; the slower your connection to the net is the more you want to download this only one-time and make it available locally and burn a CD with it. - The original file has been available from Microsoft for at least three weeks free of charge, no need for any kind of signup. Comments: - If I did not have the original file I would not have know which one to grab. The most distributed files were complete slipstreams, not SP only (I selected the best file of matching size). - Two hours for 266 MB is not too shabby in the absolute, but the original downloaded in less than 15 minutes from home each time and tried and a lot less from the office depending where I was. - On some P2P systems this kind of download speed can typically be achieved only by sharing files to get a good U/L ratio. People that don't share files would get at the end of the queue. - I typically get much better download speeds while sharing than people with an el-cheapo router because I QOS the upstream; one of the annoyances of sharing files is that it will tend to clog the upstream making even surfing rather painful. - Downloading with P2P requests installing a client and possibly poking holes in the NAT/Firewall. - There is a trust issue. When the file I get is from Microsoft from a download that I initiated myself not by clicking on a link provided by someone else, I would tend to trust it. OTOH, all P2P systems feature large amounts of illegal contents, including some that does not even exist (Norton utilities 2004, anyone?). - I never experienced nor heard any significant pipe clogging because of SP2. Contrary to some FUD propagated earlier there was no operational issue as a consequence of the download process. Conclusion: I did not see any advantage of using P2P to download XP SP2 and several drawbacks. I will continue to download patches directly from vendors. Michel.

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Forum Commemorating the 35th Anniversary of the Internet
by Scott Weeks 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

: From: Fergie (Paul Ferguson) : Date: Sun Aug 29 14:13:09 2004 : : "Thirty-five years after computer scientists at UCLA linked two bulky : computers using a 15-foot gray cable, testing a new way to exchange data : over networks, what would ultimately become the Internet remains a work : in progress." : : http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/08/29/internet.birthday.ap/index.html Hello Everyone, I want to point out that there is a special forum commemorating the 35th anniversary of the internet at UCLA on Oct 29th. I guess some consider the birth of the internet as communication between two computers at different sites through the IMPs instead of just the first communication between the UCLA computer and IMP #1, which is still in Dr. Leonard Kleinrock's office. I would tend to agree with Dr Klienrock's web page, though, which says of Sept 2, 1969: Fortunately, the team had done its job well and bits began moving between the UCLA computer and the IMP that same day. By the next day they had messages moving between the machines. THUS WAS BORN THE ARPANET, AND THE COMMUNITY WHICH HAS NOW BECOME THE INTERNET! A link to the event: http://internetanniversary.cs.ucla.edu Hope to see a lot of you there... scott ...and The Thing said "lo". It crashed on "g". :-)

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TDM over IP products
by Sam Stickland 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Hi, I'm interested in experiences (good and bad) that people have had with various TDM over IP products. If people can reply off-list I'll post a summary to the list in a day or two. Sam

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292 cellular towers out of service due to generator failure
by Sean Donelan 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Due to a generator failure, 292 Sprint wireless towers in Polk, Pasco, Hillsborough, Pinellas, Manatee, Hardee, Sarasota and Charlotte counties were disrupted. There is no estimated time for restoration of power to the Sprint switch serving the towers.

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Fwd: APRICOT 2005 Fellowship and CFP Announcement
by Bill Manning 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

From Philip Smith. Begin forwarded message: > > Subject: APRICOT 2005 Fellowship and CFP Announcement > > Hi everyone, > > Please find below the call for presentations and tutorials for the > APRICOT 2005 conference in Kyoto, Japan. > > philip > -- > > CALL FOR APRICOT 2005 CONFERENCE PRESENTATIONS AND TUTORIALS > (Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies) > 16-25 February 2005 > Kyoto International Conference Hall (KICH) > Kyoto, Japan > > The APRICOT 2005 Program Committee is seeking contributors to the > program. > > We are looking for people who would like to: > > * Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic; and/or > * Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker. > * Convene and chair a Birds of a Feather (BOF) session. > > You can make a proposal by completing the online form at > http://www.2005.apricot.net/cfp.html > > SCHEDULE > > 3 September 2004: Call for Papers Announcement > 27 September 2004: All Proposed Session Presentations and Tutorials > Submitted > 12 October 2004: Presentations and Tutorials Selected and Announced > 25 October 2004: Presentation Titles and Abstracts Submitted > > 4 February 2005: All Speaker Presentation Materials Submitted for > Review > 21 February to 22 February 2005: Tutorials > 23 February to 24 February 2005: Conference > > PROGRAM TOPICS > > Tutorial and Technical Conference Session topics which have been > designated for this year, include: > > Tutorial: > Wireless Infrastructure > Broadcast and Contents Delivery > Internet Backbone Operations > MPLS and Traffic Engineering > Enterprise Security > Broadband Network Design > InterConnections and Peering > Intranet Operations > Enterprise Network IPv6 Transition > DNS Operations > Internet Telephony > > Conference: > Internet Telephony (organized by APEET) > IPv6 - Transition/Network Services/Applications (organized by > APIPv6TF) > Asia Pacific Peering > Security Incident Handling (organized by APCERT) > Anti-Spam and Net Abuse (organized by APCAUCE) > Internet Routing and Backbone Operations > > The program committee will consider proposals in any of these areas, > and also in new areas. If you have an idea for a tutorial or session > subject that is not listed, please feel free to submit it to us. > When considering a subject, remember that the APRICOT audience is > mainly > comprised of technical network operators and engineers with a wide > range > of experience levels from beginners to multi-year experience. > > IMPORTANT NOTE > > APRICOT is a TECHNICAL conference. > The program committee is charged with maintaining the technical > standard > of APRICOT, and will therefore not accept inappropriate materials. > It is the expectation of both the selection committee and the audience > that the presenter be a technical professional not a marketing or sales > person. > > TUTORIALS > > Tutorials are full-day workshops (4 sessions of 90 min. in length) > which > focus on a particular subject in-depth. They may be presented by a > single Instructor, or a team of instructors working together. You can > propose a tutorial by completing the online form at > http://www.2005.apricot.net/cfp.html > > TECHNICAL CONFERENCE SESSIONS > > The APRICOT Technical Conference Schedule is made up of 1.5 hour > conference sessions, each including up to 3 speakers (therefore > allowing 20-30 minutes per speaker). Sessions are chaired by persons of > appropriate expertise in the subject matter of the session, and will > include ample time for questions from the audience. If you would like > to > propose a presentation, complete the online form at > http://www.2005.apricot.net/cfp.html > > FUNDING AND SUPPORT > > Only in exceptional circumstances of hardship will APRICOT be able to > consider assisting with travel expenses of conference speakers or > tutorial instructors. Registration fees will be waived for presenters > to > attend the portion of the program they are speaking in. > > MAKING A PROPOSAL AS A SPEAKER, INSTRUCTOR > > If you would like to be considered as a tutorial instructor or > conference session speaker, please complete the online form at > http://www.2005.apricot.net/cfp.html BEFORE 27 September 2004. > > The following information will be requested on the online form. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 1. SPEAKER PERSONAL INFORMATION > > First (Given) Name: > Middle Name: > Last (Family) Name: > Title: > Company / School / Affiliation: > Organization URL: > Country: > email: > Personal URL: > > Short Bio (please include enough information that we can determine that > you are a qualified speaker on this subject): > > 2. PROPOSAL CONTENT > > Tutorial or Technical Conference Session Presentation > (choose one for each submission): > > Subject (Choose one from): > > Tutorial: > Wireless Infrastructure > Broadcast and Contents Delivery > Internet Backbone Operations > MPLS and Traffic Engineering > Enterprise Security > Broadband Network Design > InterConnections and Peering > Intranet Operations > Enterprise Network > IPv6 Transition > DNS Operations > Internet Telephony > > Conference: > Internet Telephony (organized by APEET) > IPv6 - Transition/Network Services/Applications (organized by > APIPv6TF) > Asia Pacific Peering > Security Incident Handling (organized by APCERT) > Anti-Spam and Net Abuse (organized by APCAUCE) > Internet Routing and Backbone Operations > > Other: (Describe :_____________________) > > Title of Entry: > > Level of Material (Introductory, Intermediate, Advanced): > > Abstract of Entry: > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > CONTACT > More information on APRICOT 2005 is available at > http:/www.2005.apricot.net. If you are interested in further > information > on the APRICOT 2005 program and call for papers, please contact the > APRICOT 2005 Program Committee at <apricot2005-cfp(a)e-side.co.jp>. >

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DNS Weather Report 2004-09-07
by Daniel Roesen 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

DNS WEATHER REPORT for selected infrastructure zones ==================================================== Issue 2004-09-07 Zones analyzed and their SOA contacts: - . - arpa. nstld(a)verisign-grs.com - int. noc(a)icann.org - in-addr.arpa bind(a)arin.net - ip6.arpa. hostmaster(a)icann.org - ip6.int. hostmaster(a)ep.net Operators: please let me know wether you do want a copy when there's no problem with your zone(s) or not. Don't want to annoy anyone unnecessarily! Some people have approached me wether it would be possible to receive personal copies of the report. Please let me know wether you are interested in such a service yourself. If there is enough interest, I will set up a distro list for that. Executive summary: * the IP6.ARPA problems regarding delegation NS RRset got fixed! * ns.isi.edu is _still_ out of sync for the INT zone. * ns.isi.edu is _still_ auth for IP6.INT where it shouldn't be. The state of the root zone =========================== fine! The state of the ARPA zone ========================== fine! The state of the INT zone ========================= - ns.isi.edu is not in sync with the other nameservers Current SOA serial of the INT TLD: 2004090400, ns.isi.edu has still 2002080104 and is publishing stale data (e.g. an old NS RRset for the zone). Problem exists since at least 2004-08-24 The state of the IN-ADDR.ARPA zone ================================== fine! The state of the IP6.ARPA zone ============================== fine! The state of the IP6.INT zone ============================= - ns.isi.edu (one of the INT TLD servers) feels authoritative for the IP6.INT zone, but is neither listed in the delegation NS RRset, nor in the in-zone NS RRset of IP6.INT. Luckily, ns.isi.edu carries ip6.int with the same SOA serial as the official servers, so induces no operational problems so far. Problem exists since at least 2004-08-24 Regards, Daniel

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OT- need a new GSM provider
by Paul Vixie 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Now that AT&T has followed T-Mobile's example by screwing the pooch on my cell phone billing, and I've flung yet another SIM-locked Motorola V600 out the window of yet another moving vehicle, and am about to enter into another year long "you violated the agreement first" small claims battle, I need a new GSM provider. I'm going to buy an unlocked tri-band GSM this time. Anybody had notable (good or bad) billing and/or customer service experiences with Voicestream or any other GSM provider with native coverage in the San Francisco Bay Area? (If you reply privately to me, I'll summarize back to the list.) -- Paul Vixie

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Internet speed report...
by Deepak Jain 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/03/0534206 6.63 Gbps The article ended with hardware specs 'S2io's Xframe 10 GbE server adapter, Cisco 7600 Series Routers, Newisys 4300 servers using AMD Opteron processors, Itanium servers and the 64-bit version of Windows Server 2003.'" Is there a 10GE OSM for the 7600s? Deepak

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