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Re: Network Configuration Management Practices
by Carl W.Kalbfleisch 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

On Sep 14, 2004, at 4:09 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Carl W. Kalbfleisch: > >> 4) Does your configuration management software integrate with your >> network fault and performance management system? If so, what level of >> integration do you have? If not, is this integration something you >> desire? > > You don't mention integration with CRM systems. Is this already > standard practice, or is it considered unnecessary or maybe even > impossible? > > Integration should be entirely possible. It is just out of the scope of what I am currently investigating. Carl

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RE: Graphical displays of latency/packet loss for Top Internet backbones
by Don Lundquist 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

In regards to the graphs displayed on this link can anyone provide information regarding the network background and services offered through the Savvis backbone? They are showing very well in the response times all around on this link and it would be helpful to hear what some folks experiences with them have been. Please reply off list as I would not "think" that this is the forum to share personal comments regarding their services. Regards, Don L -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of David Vincent Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:37 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Graphical displays of latency/packet loss for Top Internet backbones Hank Nussbacher wrote: >In addition to the Qwest and AT&T links sent try: >http://internetpulse.net/ for latency numbers > > > there's also http://www.internettrafficreport.com -d

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RE: Email Complexes
by Hosman, Ross 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

As I stated before I do not handle abuse issues, it is not my position nor my department. There is no expense as I'm trying to do the job I'm paid for. As I think I have shown I'm willing to help with anyway I can, but I'm still going to do *my* job. -----Original Message----- From: David A. Ulevitch [mailto:davidu@everydns.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:10 PM To: Hosman, Ross; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: Email Complexes <quote who="Hosman, Ross"> > > Your right this isn't my department and it's not my place to tell them how > to do their job. If Roy would like to send me a valid abuse complaint I'll > make sure to forward it on or even walk it over to the abuse department > supervisor. > > I would also like to say I'm suprised at how many people have been > attacking > me on/off the list for asking a simple question. 1) You are posting with your employers email address and thus opened yourself up as a conduit to "the man" at Charter. If you didn't want that, you could do what many people do and post via a vanity address. 2) Perhaps you could take all these complaints as a way of saying "maybe instead of making sure charter can email all these other networks I should make sure charter CANT email all these other networks." :) It's always good to monitor and optimize but not at the expense of dealing with outstanding support/abuse issues. -david ---------------------------------------------------- David A. Ulevitch - Founder, EveryDNS.Net http://david.ulevitch.com -- http://everydns.net ----------------------------------------------------

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PSU Contact
by James Baldwin 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

I'm looking for a mail administrator or security contact at PSU.edu (Penn State). Please ping me off list if you know anyone. Thanks --- James Baldwin

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RE: Email Complexes
by David A. Ulevitch 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

<quote who="Hosman, Ross"> > > Your right this isn't my department and it's not my place to tell them how > to do their job. If Roy would like to send me a valid abuse complaint I'll > make sure to forward it on or even walk it over to the abuse department > supervisor. > > I would also like to say I'm suprised at how many people have been > attacking > me on/off the list for asking a simple question. 1) You are posting with your employers email address and thus opened yourself up as a conduit to "the man" at Charter. If you didn't want that, you could do what many people do and post via a vanity address. 2) Perhaps you could take all these complaints as a way of saying "maybe instead of making sure charter can email all these other networks I should make sure charter CANT email all these other networks." :) It's always good to monitor and optimize but not at the expense of dealing with outstanding support/abuse issues. -david ---------------------------------------------------- David A. Ulevitch - Founder, EveryDNS.Net http://david.ulevitch.com -- http://everydns.net ----------------------------------------------------

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world phones
by Jeff Wheeler 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

I know this topic has already passed, but this article describes one other possible avenue for the only-GSM-for-me crowd that may open a couple additional providers to your list of options.... http://news.com.com/The+world+in+your+palm/2100-1039_3-5364524.html? tag=nefd.top -- Jeff Wheeler Postmaster, Network Admin US Institute of Peace

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RE: Email Complexes
by Hosman, Ross 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

Your right this isn't my department and it's not my place to tell them how to do their job. If Roy would like to send me a valid abuse complaint I'll make sure to forward it on or even walk it over to the abuse department supervisor. I would also like to say I'm suprised at how many people have been attacking me on/off the list for asking a simple question. I'm just trying to ensure people are able to recieve/send mail from/to charter's mail complex. I didn't think asking for some help would be a big deal (as I thought there might be some people on the list from the companies that were knowledgeable instead of having to deal with typical tier-1 support). -----Original Message----- From: Paul Bradford [mailto:paul@adelphiacom.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:31 PM To: Roy Cc: Hosman, Ross; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: Email Complexes Come on... what is this.... Ross doesn't have the ability to put more "clueful" people in abuse, he's prolly an engineer like you and me.... we just want to fix the network.... why take this e-mail as a chance to bash Charter? Ease up, Paul On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 14:01, Roy wrote: > I suggest you concentrate some resources in your abuse department. One > charter IP address hit my firewall 1617 times so far today. Repeated > complaints to abuse(a)charter.net just get ignored. > > According to the local newspaper, my fellow citizens consider Charter the > worst company in town. > > Roy

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RE: Email Complexes
by JDeane＠sungardfutures.com 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

With all due respect, call these organizations as a customer and request an account. With that being said, might I suggest a far better method: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/msgtrk-charter.html Regards, Jade -----Original Message----- From: Hosman, Ross [mailto:Ross.Hosman@chartercom.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:51 AM To: Hosman, Ross; 'bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com' Cc: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: RE: Email Complexes I've gotten a few emails asking why we are doing this. We are doing this in order to provider better service to our Customers. Charter need's pop3 access at the following companies so that we can monitor track and monitor SMTP performance between our network and yours. AOL Yahoo Gmail MSN/Hotmail Cox Comcast Adelphia Earthlink Verizon -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:24 AM To: 'bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com' Cc: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: RE: Email Complexes Let me calrify, I work as a HSD Administrator for Charter Communications in their mail, news, web group. We want these accounts so that we can ensure email is going to the other complexes without a hitch. We would also monitor how long it would take email to go from our complex to the respective company's complex. -----Original Message----- From: bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com [mailto:bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:18 AM To: Hosman, Ross Cc: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: Re: Email Complexes On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:08:21AM -0500, Hosman, Ross wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone knew people at the following companies: > > AOL > Yahoo > Gmail > MSN/Hotmail > Cox > Comcast > Adelphia > Earthlink > Verizon i think most everyone knows someone at one or more of these companies. > > We would like accounts setup at these companies to monitor outgoing > email to > these complexes. If you know/are someone at one of these companies > could you > please contact me off list. accounts from each of these companies is easy to get. one does not need special privledges here, just the money to pay for the regular account fees. > > Ross Hosman > HSD Administrator > ross.hosman(a)chartercom.com > 314-543-5823

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Upcoming NANOG & ARIN Meetings
by Charlie Khanna - NextWeb 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

Hi, I've been to previous NANOG meetings and have found them to be very useful. Can someone shed some light for me on the ARIN meetings? I guess I want to know if it worth attending? ARIN folks - please be kind... :) PLEASE REPLY OFF-LIST. Thanks, Charlie

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Email Complexes
by Hosman, Ross 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

I was wondering if anyone knew people at the following companies: AOL Yahoo Gmail MSN/Hotmail Cox Comcast Adelphia Earthlink Verizon We would like accounts setup at these companies to monitor outgoing email to these complexes. If you know/are someone at one of these companies could you please contact me off list. Ross Hosman HSD Administrator ross.hosman(a)chartercom.com 314-543-5823

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