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RE: [Activity logging & archiving tool]
by McBurnett, Jim 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

If you are really just looking for changes and change comparison's check out Kiwi Cat tools.. www.kiwisyslog.com This software can connect via SSH, Telnet etc, and even do non-Cisco, Linux etc.. Works good as a backup for configs... Later, Jim CiscoWorks also polls the devices for configuration changes and generates a diff if you so desire. If you have set up AAA you will have an audit log of when changes were applied and who applied them. Scott C. McGrath

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Opentransit (France Telecom) in Seattle
by Eric Kuhnke 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

Does anyone know what floor of the Westin building Opentransit's POP is on?

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MPLS billing model
by Dan Lockwood 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of the service do you charge for and how do you do the billing? E.g. per port + traffic, per site + traffic, etc. I am not interested in buying MPLS services just how the billing happens. Thanks! Dan

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Re: [RE: [Activity logging & archiving tool]]
by joshua sahala 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

<Brennan_Murphy(a)NAI.com> wrote: > > Or Ciscoworks. A config change sends a syslog event to CW which in > turn knows to go grab the latest copy of the config. I believe > there are some reporting capabilities too, simple diff routines and > archives of past configs. or if you cannot afford cisco works (or would rather spend the money on other things...), you can do something similar with swatch. just look for the syslog string: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by $user then trigger a rancid run on that device /joshua [cut] "Walk with me through the Universe, And along the way see how all of us are Connected. Feast the eyes of your Soul, On the Love that abounds. In all places at once, seemingly endless, Like your own existence." - Stephen Hawking -

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RE: [RE: MPLS billing model]
by Dan Lockwood 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

That is a good point, but I was thinking specifically in terms of traffic on the tunnel. Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Alex Rubenstein Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:00 PM To: joshua sahala Cc: St. Clair, James; 'Nanog List (E-mail) ' Subject: Re: [RE: MPLS billing model] > we are still in the testing phases, but i believe that we are planning to > use a port+traffic billing scheme, if/when we go live and start trying to > sell it do you mean: $port + $traffic_through_port or: $port + $traffic_over_vpn_tunnel I ask this, because, it's very possible that the customer facing port could be a VLAN trunk, and that there would be a hub-and-spoke config to multiple leaf ports; other variations exist, as well. -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex(a)nac.net, latency, Al Reuben -- -- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net --

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Re: [RE: MPLS billing model]
by joshua sahala 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

"St. Clair, James" <JStClair(a)vredenburg.com> wrote: > > I'd appreciate knowing this as well - thanks in advance > > Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Lockwood > To: Nanog List (E-mail) > Sent: 11/25/2003 2:04 PM > Subject: MPLS billing model > > > For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of the service do > you charge for and how do you do the billing? E.g. per port + traffic, > per site + traffic, etc. I am not interested in buying MPLS services > just how the billing happens. Thanks! > > Dan > we are still in the testing phases, but i believe that we are planning to use a port+traffic billing scheme, if/when we go live and start trying to sell it /joshua "Walk with me through the Universe, And along the way see how all of us are Connected. Feast the eyes of your Soul, On the Love that abounds. In all places at once, seemingly endless, Like your own existence." - Stephen Hawking -

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Re: [Activity logging & archiving tool]
by joshua sahala 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

"Priyantha" <priyantha(a)wightman.ca> wrote: > > In my company, there are several technical guys make changes to the > existing network and it's very difficult to keep track of what we did > when, etc. i feel your pain - except when it was happening, they weren't as technical as they thought they were... > I'm looking for a simple tool, in which each and every one has to > manually record whatever (s)he has done or any incident (s)he observed > so that the tool archives that data someway. Later, in case if someone > needs, (s)he should be able to search for that archive by date, by > person, by a random phrase, etc. rancid (http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid) and cvs-web (http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~zeller/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/) rancid does nice proactive checking of device configs, and cvs-web is a pretty front end to look through change history for tracking: request tracker (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) - it is a ticketing system, but you could probably customize it to fit your needs netoffice (http://sourceforge.net/projects/netoffice/) - haven't used it personally, but it looks like it might work too track+ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/trackplus/) - same as netoffice of course, nothing will work unless everyone uses it, so you have to have clear, concise policies for change management, and then enforce them. hth /joshua > Any help in this regard is appreciated, > > Priyantha Pushpa Kumara > --------------------------------------- > Manager - Data Services > Wightman Internet Ltd. > Clifford, ON > N0G 1M0 > Fax: 519-327-8010 > > > "Walk with me through the Universe, And along the way see how all of us are Connected. Feast the eyes of your Soul, On the Love that abounds. In all places at once, seemingly endless, Like your own existence." - Stephen Hawking -

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Re: TAT 14 failure
by garrett.allen＠comcast.net 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

clarifying the last post, seeing 100ms under the pond to our points of presence in bourne end and beeston (uk). thanks. > > I saw that link when I googled for TAT-14. I was looking more for a "see, I > told you so" link that I can forward to management that provides proof that > this is why our UK office is down...if you know what I mean. > > Here's an interesting explanation of undersea cabling: > http://davidw.home.cern.ch/davidw/public/SubCables.html > > > -Jack > > > --- Jared Mauch <jared(a)puck.nether.net> wrote: > > > > This is a basic map of the fiber path for those > > that haven't found one yet. > > > > http://www.kddiscs.co.jp/e/business/02_15.html > > > > - jared > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 10:32:16AM -0800, Jack McCarthy wrote: > > > > > > Anyone have additional info regarding this outage? Links? Besides > > tat-14.com > > > - it seems to be down or just flooded with requests. > > > > > > > > > -Jack > > > > > > > > > --- jmalcolm(a)uraeus.com wrote: > > > > > > > > The northern leg of TAT14 seems to have just taken an outage about an > > > > hour ago. As the southern leg was already down due to other faults, > > > > this will probably be an exciting time for many providers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared(a)puck.nether.net > > clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine. > > > > > > >

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RE: MPLS billing model
by St. Clair, James 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

I'd appreciate knowing this as well - thanks in advance Jim -----Original Message----- From: Dan Lockwood To: Nanog List (E-mail) Sent: 11/25/2003 2:04 PM Subject: MPLS billing model For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of the service do you charge for and how do you do the billing? E.g. per port + traffic, per site + traffic, etc. I am not interested in buying MPLS services just how the billing happens. Thanks! Dan

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Happy Holidays - Id-al-Fitr / Ramadan Mubarak - Iyi Bayramlar
by Mehmet Akcin 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

!!!!!!!!!EID / RAMADAN / ID-AL-FITR MUBARAK / Ramazan Bayraminiz Mubarek Olsun!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish happy and peaceful holidays to the NANOG'ers either they participate Islam as their religious or other religiouses. In fact this is a muslim holiday (for those who don't know.) Hope the world will be more peaceful in the further days, months, years. (Basic information for those who don't know what ramadan is. and information about the holiday Muslims celebrate today) What is Ramadan? Ramadan is the ninth month of the Muslim calendar. The Month of Ramadan is also when it is believed the Holy Quran "was sent down from heaven, a guidance unto men, a declaration of direction, and a means of Salvation" It is during this month that Muslims fast. It is called the Fast of Ramadan and lasts the entire month. Ramadan is a time when Muslims concentrate on their faith and spend less time on the concerns of their everyday lives. It is a time of worship and contemplation During the Fast of Ramadan strict restraints are placed on the daily lives of Muslims. They are not allowed to eat or drink during the daylight hours. Smoking and sexual relations are also forbidden during fasting. At the end of the day the fast is broken with prayer and a meal called the iftar. In the evening following the iftar it is customary for Muslims to go out visiting family and friends. The fast is resumed the next morning According to the Holy Quran: One may eat and drink at any time during the night "until you can plainly distinguish a white thread from a black thread by the daylight: then keep the fast until night" The good that is acquired through the fast can be destroyed by five things - the telling of a lie slander denouncing someone behind his back a false oath greed or covetousness These are considered offensive at all times, but are most offensive during the Fast of Ramadan During Ramadan, it is common for Muslims to go to the Masjid (Mosque) and spend several hours praying and studying the Quran. In addition to the five daily prayers, during Ramadan Muslims recite a special prayer called the Taraweeh prayer (Night Prayer). The length of this prayer is usually 2-3 times as long as the daily prayers. Some Muslims spend the entire night in prayer On the evening of the 27th day of the month, Muslims celebrate the Laylat-al-Qadr (the Night of Power). It is believed that on this night Muhammad first received the revelation of the Holy Quran. And according to the Quran, this is when God determines the course of the world for the following year When the fast ends (the first day of the month of Shawwal) it is celebrated for three days in a holiday called Id-al-Fitr (the Feast of Fast Breaking). Gifts are exchanged. Friends and family gather to pray in congregation and for large meals. In some cities fairs are held to celebrate the end of the Fast of Ramadan. (that's what is today) Mehmet Akcin Netpresence Inc.

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