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RE: Finding clue at comcast.net
by Austad, Jay 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Comcast's phone support department is the *worst*, WORST, I've ever dealt with. I think they are outsourced, they have to go by a script, and many of them probably hardly know what a computer even is. Once I called because of a problem on their network, and I told the person on the phone that there was a problem on their network, and I pinned it down to a couple of routers where the problem may be, and she responded, very sternly, "Sir, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROUTERS" In any case, if you manage to get the call escalated a couple of times (after lying about rebooting your computer 47 times), you'll get someone good. Also, there are some good people who read this list. But calling their phone support to get anything useful is like trying to squeeze blood from a rock. -jay > -----Original Message----- > From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:hcb@gettcomm.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:36 PM > To: nanog(a)merit.org > Subject: Finding clue at comcast.net > > > > I'm rapidly beginning to believe this is equivalent to finding the > pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. When my broadband alternative > is Verizon and it's looking better, this is scary. > > Sometime today, their SMTP server started bouncing messages with more > than 3 addressees. When I called customer support, I was told "we > only handle troubleshooting, not mail service." The operator > "guessed" they might be doing software updates on the mail service, > had no information, and said there was no person to which it could be > escalated. > > She insisted that I call my local cable office to find out when the > "server repair" would be completed, because "they schedule all > repairs." > > Is this a bad dream? >

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RE: Qwest bgp communities
by Williams, Ken 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Disregard, I thought they had allowed bgp queries on that site as well.... -----Original Message----- From: Haesu [mailto:haesu@towardex.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:39 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Qwest bgp communities Hi, Anyone here know if Qwest operates a route server like GBLX, HE, ATT, that also shows AS209's communities? It would be useful for some bgp troubleshooting.. There is one peer in route-views.oregon-ix.net that shows 209 routes, but unfortunately, that particular peer strips off all 209's communities. I am trying to troubleshoot a problem where 209:70 set on a prefix doesn't seem to work/propagate, etc et al. Or does anyone know of any route-servers run by a Qwest customer/peer that receives communities? I know that http://stat.qwest.net has looking glass but it doesn't let you run any bgp commands; just ping and traceroute :-( If you can assist, please reply to me off-list. Thank you very much for your time, -hc -- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Consulting, colocation, web hosting, network design and implementation http://www.towardex.com | haesu(a)towardex.com Cell: (978)394-2867 | Office: (978)263-3399 Ext. 170 Fax: (978)263-0033 | POC: HAESU-ARIN

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RE: Qwest bgp communities
by Williams, Ken 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

http://stat.qwest.net/looking_glass.html -----Original Message----- From: Haesu [mailto:haesu@towardex.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:39 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Qwest bgp communities Hi, Anyone here know if Qwest operates a route server like GBLX, HE, ATT, that also shows AS209's communities? It would be useful for some bgp troubleshooting.. There is one peer in route-views.oregon-ix.net that shows 209 routes, but unfortunately, that particular peer strips off all 209's communities. I am trying to troubleshoot a problem where 209:70 set on a prefix doesn't seem to work/propagate, etc et al. Or does anyone know of any route-servers run by a Qwest customer/peer that receives communities? I know that http://stat.qwest.net has looking glass but it doesn't let you run any bgp commands; just ping and traceroute :-( If you can assist, please reply to me off-list. Thank you very much for your time, -hc -- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Consulting, colocation, web hosting, network design and implementation http://www.towardex.com | haesu(a)towardex.com Cell: (978)394-2867 | Office: (978)263-3399 Ext. 170 Fax: (978)263-0033 | POC: HAESU-ARIN

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Qwest bgp communities
by Haesu 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Hi, Anyone here know if Qwest operates a route server like GBLX, HE, ATT, that also shows AS209's communities? It would be useful for some bgp troubleshooting.. There is one peer in route-views.oregon-ix.net that shows 209 routes, but unfortunately, that particular peer strips off all 209's communities. I am trying to troubleshoot a problem where 209:70 set on a prefix doesn't seem to work/propagate, etc et al. Or does anyone know of any route-servers run by a Qwest customer/peer that receives communities? I know that http://stat.qwest.net has looking glass but it doesn't let you run any bgp commands; just ping and traceroute :-( If you can assist, please reply to me off-list. Thank you very much for your time, -hc -- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Consulting, colocation, web hosting, network design and implementation http://www.towardex.com | haesu(a)towardex.com Cell: (978)394-2867 | Office: (978)263-3399 Ext. 170 Fax: (978)263-0033 | POC: HAESU-ARIN

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RE: Wired mag article on spammers playing traceroute games with trojaned boxes
by Mike Damm 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Actually, running a web server on 8290 isn't as easy as 80. SpamAssassin tests (WEIRD_PORT) for this, as do many other filtering packages. Forcing spammers to use non-standard ports will greatly increase their rate of detection, and in turn help to solve the spam problem. -Mike -----Original Message----- From: jlewis(a)lewis.org [mailto:jlewis@lewis.org] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:56 AM To: Joe Boyce Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Wired mag article on spammers playing traceroute games with trojaned boxes On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Joe Boyce wrote: > VA> Personally, I think preventing residential broadband customers from hosting > VA> servers would limit a lot of that. I'm not saying that IS the solution. > > It's not like those customers are aware they are hosting servers, they > most likely were exploited and are now unaware they are hosting > websites. That's obviously the case. No spammer has "thousands" of legitimately purchased DSL/Cable connections. The article pretty clearly says they're exploiting insecure windows (isn't that redundant?) boxes. Trouble is, how do you stop this? Just blocking common ports like 80 by default (unless the customer plans to actually run a web server and asks for the filter to be removed) won't work. The spammers can just as easily spam with urls containing ports (http://blah.biz:8290/) if they find 80 is filtered or find that filtering has become common. So other than waiting some infinitely long time for a secure out of the box version of windows (and for everyone to upgrade), how do you stop this? Widespread deployment of reflexive access lists? Force all broadband customers to use NAT and let them forward ports or entire IPs to their private IP servers if they have any? Wait for the legal system to catch and prosecute a few people who do this and deter others from trying it? Convince registrars to kill domains that are clearly being used by thieves? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis(a)lewis.org*| I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________

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RE: Wired mag article on spammers playing traceroute games with trojaned boxes
by McBurnett, Jim 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

-> ->I found one of these today, as a matter of fact. The spam was ->advertising an anti-spam package, of course. -> ->The domain name is vano-soft.biz, and looking up the address, I get -> ->Name: vano-soft.biz ->Addresses: 12.252.185.129, 131.220.108.232, 165.166.182.168, ->193.165.6.97 -> 12.229.122.9 -> ->A few minutes later, or from a different nameserver, I get -> ->Name: vano-soft.biz ->Addresses: 131.220.108.232, 165.166.182.168, 193.165.6.97, ->12.229.122.9 -> 12.252.185.129 -> ->This is a real Hydra. If everyone on the list looked up ->vano-soft.biz ->and removed the trojaned boxes, would we be able to kill it? -> ->--Chris I got : Canonical name: vano-soft.biz Addresses: 165.166.182.168 193.92.62.42 200.80.137.157 12.229.122.9 12.252.185.129 I think even if we get all the ones for this domain name today, assuming we can muster even man hours to get it today, another 5000 will be added tomarrow. And looking at my list We have US(a very small ISP and a large ISP) RIPE, and LACNIC. I wonder if the better question should be: Can Broadband ISP's require a Linksys, dlink or other broadband router without too many problems? That is what it will take to slow this down, and then only if ALL of ISP's do it. This not only affects this instance but global security as a whole. Just a few days ago, Cisco was taken offline by a large # of Zombies, I am willing to say that those are potentially some of the same compromised systems. Thoughts? Jim

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Re: Wired mag article on spammers playing traceroute gameswith trojaned boxes
by John Neiberger 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

>Actually, in the case of the wired article (removeform.com) it seems to be >connected to a site in Florida. I asked my programmer (gabor(a)sentex.net) >to decode the obfuscated java script/page that is served up by one of the >zombies (On FreeBSD fetch -B 18192 -o danger.html >http://www.removeform.com/d - I got it from 207.5.215.72 at the time). I >have attached it as a zip file with its contents. You will note that the >form post goes back to > >form action="http://207.36.47.68/cgi-bin/addinfo.cgi" > > >OrgName: CyberGate, Inc. >OrgID: CYBG >Address: 3250 W. Commercial Blvd. Suite 200 >City: Ft. Lauderdale >StateProv: FL >PostalCode: 33309 >Country: US This appears to be a rather prolific spammer. At first I thought they were affiliated with www.skynetweb.com because they have the same address, including suite number, but it now appears that they are really affiliated with these guys: http://www.affinity.com/about/our_team/our_team.htm John --

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RE: contact at yahoo mail? (they think we're an open relay :< )
by Mark Jeftovic 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

We are listed in no-more-funn.moensted.dk as 127.0.0.2 which is described as: + NERD-CA ip-space assigned to Canada: ca.countries.nerd.dk -> 127.0.0.2 216.220.40/24 is in ca, rejected based on geographical location about: Please see our webpage for more information about: This zone lists ONLY based on geographic information about: The zone does NOT contain known spammers, nor open relays We do cop to being Canadian, but that's about it. I hope yahoo isn't keying on this RBL. -mark ...and we've already filled out the retest form at Yahoo. On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Thor Larholm wrote: > If you read through all of that page, you will notice that Yahoo itself > has a re-test script you can use to trigger a verification. > > http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/mail/cgi_retest > > Yahoo is not your only problem, if you look at > http://moensted.dk/spam/?addr=216.220.40.247 you will notice that > several DNSBL lists that IP address. No-more-fun believes it to be a > "Direct spam source" and ArixDictStale says it has performed active > dictionary attacks within the last 3 months. > > If you want to positively check whether you are an open relay, I would > recommend testing through ORDB at http://ordb.org/submit/ > > > Regards > Thor Larholm > PivX Solutions, LLC - Senior Security Researcher > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Jeftovic [mailto:markjr@easydns.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:23 PM > To: nanog(a)merit.org > Subject: contact at yahoo mail? (they think we're an open relay :< ) > > > > > Today our email forwarders started getting this from yahoo.com mail > handlers: > > 553 Mail from 216.220.40.247 not allowed - VS99-IP1 deferred - see > help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-02.html (#5.7.1) Connection > closed by foreign host. > > Which when you go look at that page basically tells you you're probably > an open relay (which we're not), etc. > > Can any mail admins at Yahoo contact me offlist, or post what the > restrictions are or at what levels this will kick in? > > -mark > > -- Mark Jeftovic <markjr(a)easydns.com> Co-founder, easyDNS Technologies Inc. ph. +1-(416)-535-8672 ext 225 fx. +1-(416)-535-0237

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Need contact at Everyone Internet
by Mike Batchelor 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

I am seeking a contact at Everyone Internet (EV1.NET) who can address a routing problem at EV1's borders that is causing our users to be unable to reach many popular sites hosted there, or that have DNS servers there. We've tried contacting them by telephone, only to be referred to noc(a)ev1.net. We have sent mail there from outside our network, but have received no response. If someone from Everyone Internet is reading this, I would very much appreciate a response. If you cannot get email to me, please call at 213-739-5173. Or if you know how to reach someone at the EV1 NOC for problems of this sort, I'd appreciate that as well. Thank you. --- "The avalanche has already begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." -- Kosh

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Fw: Broadband World Forum Conference Proceedings
by Alan Spicer 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

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