July 2001 - Test - lists.nanog.org

RE: crsnic whois updates
by Roeland Meyer 04 Jul '01

04 Jul '01

When my DSL link got interrupted, last March, I had to go to a new upstream. I paid the $29.95 per name server, to NSI, and got it straightened out in less than four days. $30 bucks, for expedited service, isn't very expensive, considering the alternative. All my domains are served by the same three zone-servers, with backup zone-servers in AboveNet. After the main zone-server were back online, I used the normal process to get the rest of it straightened out, at no additional cost. That took a few extra weeks, but once the main zone servers were online, I had no pressing time issues. > From: mike harrison [mailto:meuon@highertech.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:19 PM > > > Apparently NSOL thinks they are "special".. Even though my > nameservers are > > registered with OpenSRS, NSOL thinks that I need to spend > time (weeks, > > sometimes), sending them an updated "host" form every time > I change an IP > > address. > > I have some important name servers at NSOL that I have been trying > to get updated for weeks, I'm down to the 'pay em $299' extortion plan > to get them updated. --Mike--

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Re: VPN Illegal In-Migration
by Troy Corbin 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

Kysi- You have sent me this message twice in the past 5 minutes detailing your fears about Mexican Covert Operations and their threat to our internet freedom. Please put the bong down, stop doing using crystal meth, and do something useful. -t On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, kysi ferul wrote: > > > kysi ferul <redwingblakburdz(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > we evenb heard the rumour that many of the Mexican trucks would actually be MOBILE COMMAND CENTERS...virtual rolling LANS and ISP on the go's? > The 'take-down' of the GRID and/or the TAKEOVER of the TELECOMMUNICATIONS in the contiguous 48 has been often times expressed in MOVIE BOOK and TV SHOW,,,but we are so slow on the UPTAKE...it is to our best interests to make the INTERNET CLEAN AND SAFE...but FREE! And that can NOT happen unless everyone GROWS UP! (Ands that ESPECIALLY 'means' ..."FROGFACE!") > Troy Corbin <troyc(a)titan.communitech.net> wrote: > im looking for any operational experiences/references > regarding large wan migrations from private frame-relay > to extranet VPNs for remote office connectivity. > specifically, what backbone provider(s) did you choose, > what type of cost savings were realized in both telco > charges as well as management overhead, and what > performance increases/decreases did you experience? > > thanks, > troy > > > > > > Kysi Ferul redwingblakburdz(a)yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > Kysi Ferul redwingblakburdz(a)yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: SWIP update intervals (was: Re: Getting an AS and /18)
by Adam McKenna 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 05:21:12PM -0400, Lapinski, Michael (CRD) wrote: > Do you honestly think that spammers cant write a > little bit more code that will parse out the URL > and then parse the email addresses out of web page? Do you honestly think that most spammers are using custom tools to extract e-mail addresses from web pages? (There are winblows GUI tools designed explicitly for this purpose -- you can download them from tucows.) > It would probably help them because they'd have an > up-to-date list of people to spam. Most places already have a contact list published on the web. There are also ways of "hiding" e-mail addresses in web forms to make them harder for spammers' tools to parse, i.e., adam [at] flounder.net, etc. --Adam

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Re: SWIP update intervals (was: Re: Getting an AS and /18)
by Dave Stewart 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

At 04:21 PM 7/3/2001, Mitch Halmu wrote: >weed out such addresses from their lists... Not judging by the amount of spam that's caught by the filters here... as well as the amount that gets through.

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T1 line
by Tatsuya Kawasaki 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

I have a simple question for you all. For T1 line that teleco provide, one that goes to smartjack from CO, is there any standard coloring for cable? which one goes where? It appeared that they are sets of twisted by pairs.. Does it means are they tip and ring pairs??? TIA, Tatsuya /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Tatsuya Kawasaki Allegiance Telecom Unlock the Power of the Internet http://www.kivex.com Phone 301.215.6777 Fax 301.215.5991 Affiliation given for identification not representation /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

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Las Vegas Rolling Blackout
by Sean Donelan 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

Its not just California. Las Vegas Nevada had a rolling blackout on Monday. Nevada Power needed to shed approximately 100 Megawatts of power (10,000 customers) when heat and maintenance outages at power plants lead to power shortages. Casinos and other large power consumers were requested to shed 50 megawatts of load. In better news New York City believes it has added enough peaker plants, so NYC will not have power shortages this summer. However, as a representative of the Edison Institute pointed in 1999, no electricity consumer should assume power will never fail (double negative).

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RE: Common causes of performance problems and outages
by Roeland Meyer 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

> From: Maya [mailto:myajnik@research.telcordia.com] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 10:31 AM > > Hello, > I want to find out the most common causes of > performance problems as well as outages in > networks today. Any information is welcome! In no particular order; 1:Peering polcies resulting in really bizarre business-dictated routes. 2:Over-booking on broadband links (cable-modems) 3:Over extended growth by DSL operators (w/ resultant business failures, ie NorthPoint). 4:RBOCs ... ALL of them. 5:Fixing what ain't broke. 6:Forgetting why you did something and then doing it "right" later. 7:ICANN for broken DNS (which BIZ you iz). 8:NewNet, for REALLY proving 7:. 9:The A**holes that write scripts for script-kiddies. 10: ...I'll stop while I'm behind.... Note that very little of the above had anything to do with technology and everything to do with people.

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RE: GRC rides again...
by Roeland Meyer 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

> From: Mike Batchelor [mailto:mikebat@tmcs.net] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:25 AM > Roeland Meyer: > > ...As much as I hate to say it, I almost agree with MSFT > here. That said, > > Novell stated, decades ago, that MSFT never could > understand network > > security. At the time, I agreed with Novell. > > "Decades ago" implies more than one decade ago, which puts > this purported > statement by Novell sometime prior to 1981. That was a very prescient > statement, in light of the fact that networking on > Microsoft's then-current > OS (DOS 1.0) had not been developed yet. So we know that I can't type...duh! Besides, I was running a Davong Multilink arcnet at the time, before Novell took it over (when Davong turned turtle). We were eagerly awaiting the first IBM XT. Also, I was running PCDOS v2.11 about then. Network by Davong and disk drives by Tallgrass. We also had a PDP11/35 w/ RSX-11M, for POS development (TEC America, Torrance). I guess that places the time at about 1982... six (6) MONTHS short of two decades. Please excuse me for not being suitably anal-retentive. Advanced senility is hell on the old RAM isn't it?

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RE: GRC rides again...
by Roeland Meyer 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

> From: Ron Buchalski [mailto:rbuchals@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:52 AM > It may be possible for the features of qos to help limit the > extent of the > attack, but with no predictability of where the attack > sources or attack > destinations are, you'd either need to apply qos when the > attack occurs > (reactive), or deploy it EVERYWHERE, on ALL provider's > networks (intensely > proactive). I doubt that anyone has the time or effort to > deploy worldwide > qos in order to stop random (and small, compared to overall > traffic) dos > attacks. This WAS the idea, thanks for pointing out the weakness. Basically, yet another means to filter. But, too much work to implement. According to this, it wouldn't scale.

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hot/cold-potato routing
by Vandy Hamidi 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

I'm new to the world of high-end/ISP-level routing and traffic manipulation. I recently heard of "cold-potato and hot-potato routing" and have developed an understanding of what it means and why hot-potato is default because of BGPs very nature. My question is, How is Cold-Potato routing implemented, and how are ISPs like Above Net able to just switch over when a backbone connection is lost? Are MEDs involved? Thanks, -=Vandy=-

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