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RE: Houston problems?
by Rishi Singh 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

Yes, we lost all of our Qwest connections from NYC to Houston this morning. This was confirmed by Qwest as being due to the flooding. In an email sent to us from one of our offices in Houston: "In a little more detail: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2001/2001-06-10-houstonflding.htm At least 15 people in the area were killed by this storm. Many parts of the city were flooded out, and a lot of stuff is still messed up. Major hospitals shut down, power and telephone service messed up, etc, etc. Houston is currently a Federal disaster area." -----Original Message----- From: Jason Legate [mailto:jlegate@alienchick.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:40 PM To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Houston problems? I am getting word that the Qwest Houston TeraPOP is down, due to flooding. Is this true, and does anyone know of anything else from down there? -j

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standards for giving out blocks of IP addresses
by shsu＠HydroOne.com 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

Hi, is there a standard or a practice on how much IP addresses an ISP should provide to his/her client given that this client has bought only 2Mb of bandwidth and this client is an ISP? Thanks sheng

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Re: cogentco.com technical analysis?
by Albert Meyer 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

I didn't end up purchasing their service, but from talking to their salesperson I got the feeling that they weren't "ready." I would have purchased the service anyway, but they won't offer it in Austin until late 2001. For $3000/month I could afford to keep another circuit or two and not care (very much) if Cogent goes down. At 03:36 PM 6/12/01 -0700, Murphy, Brennan wrote: >I was wondering if anyone had any experience with Cogent Inc. They are >one of the companies offering high speed internet (fast ethernet/GigE) at >rock >bottom prices. :-) > >I know the adage "you get what you pay for" typically applies but >I was looking for some concrete end user experiences. I'm not trying to >break the charter of this mailing list by devoting a discussion to various >emotion based opinions about a particular vendor. I am actually seeking >technical opinions on whether what is being advertised is actually >being delivered with reliability. More specific questions: do Cogent's >peering arrangements seem adequate to the amount of bandwidth >they are offering? Or are these major bottlenecks to an otherwise >good network? Are any of Cogent's competitors worth taking a look >at? Any non-obvious reason why? Does anyone have any statistics to provide >that paints a picture >about what you get from their products? I guess if enough people >complained that this was too off topic, I could still request direct >replies and I could put a summary together for any interested parties. >But I reread the charter before putting this together and it seems >fair game. When is Worldcom, et al going to start offering these >products? ( maybe when companies like cogent start succeeding?) >Thanks, >-BM

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gTLD Informational Message
by Brad Verd 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

This is an Informational Message to the internet community: Tuesday evening, the 12th of June, Verisign Global Registry Services will be adding the IP address for h.gtld-servers.net into the authoritative NS set serving com/net/org, bringing the total to 13. The new set of servers authoritative for these TLDs will be: A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.5.6.30 G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.42.93.30 H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.54.112.30 C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.26.92.30 I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.36.144.133 B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.33.14.30 D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.31.80.30 L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.41.162.30 F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.35.51.30 J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 210.132.100.101 K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 213.177.194.5 E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 192.12.94.30 M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 6D IN A 202.153.114.101 This will not require any change to root.cache file. -------------------------------------- Brad Verd Operations Manager Resolution Systems Verisign Global Registry Services Email - bverd(a)verisign.com ---------------------------------------

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multihoming standard for a small ISP client
by shsu＠HydroOne.com 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

Hi, anybody know what is the standard to set up a multihoming environment for an ISP that is small enough to apply for AS#. How does a block of IP address from one of the upstream ISP talk through another upstream ISP? Thanks for your forthcoming help! sheng

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Re: New list Top 10 ISPs
by Sean Donelan 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

> Also very unclear to me how any of this > helps folks operate their networks or is applicable > to NANOG, unless we've become a marketing organisation > recently... Issues related to competition and the business environment appear to be within NANOG's charter. The NANOG charter has included "maintaining a competitive and level business environment." since November 2000. It seems to follow that measurements of the competitive and business environment would be on-topic. I understand some technologists prefer to ignore competition and the realities of business and concentrate on ways to post HTML.

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Routing anomaly within ATT.NET
by RJ Atkinson 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

ATT.NET appears to have an internal routing anomaly causing RoadRunner (rr.com) to be unreachable to (m)any AT&T customers. Outage has been in place for several hours. RoadRunner says they don't know when ATT.NET will have a fix in place.

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Re: New list Top 10 ISPs
by PETER JANSEN 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

Rafi: I admire your no-nonsense, focused approach to the IPS classification game. But than, it is probably as accurate as all the other ratings. Peter Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Rafi Sadowsky <rafi-nanog(a)meron.openu.ac.il> To: RJ Atkinson <rja(a)inet.org> CC: Sean Donelan <sean(a)donelan.com>, nanog(a)merit.edu Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Reply-to: nanog(a)merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog-outgoing(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: New list Top 10 ISPs On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, RJ Atkinson wrote: > > At 09:47 12/06/01, Sean Donelan wrote: > > >NetworkWorld published an article citing research from > >Probe Research ranking the top 10 ISPs and their marketshare > >based on Year-end (2000) revenue. > > Essentially none of these sorts of analyses > are meaningful or relevant because one can yield > any result or ordering one wants by playing games > with the definition of "ISP" and the basis for > the ranking. Well - I think Genuity is the #1 ISP - since they use AS 1 (They got AS1 when they bought(merged in ?) BBN ) and it's quite obvious that the ISP with the #1 Autonomous System is the best - right ? ( ;-) Rafi > > Also very unclear to me how any of this > helps folks operate their networks or is applicable > to NANOG, unless we've become a marketing organisation > recently... > > Ran > >

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RE: Houston problems?
by Mark Borchers 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

I can't speak to all providers in the Houston area; however, the Greenspoint area, which is to the north of the city (farther from the Gulf coast) near Houston Intercontinental airport, was unaffected. This is where some large colocation facilities and other major carrier facilities are located. There was widespread flooding in the Houston area but water intrusion and actual damage was very sporadic. > I am getting word that the Qwest Houston TeraPOP is down, due > to flooding. > > Is this true, and does anyone know of anything else from down there? > > -j >

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Summary of Houston problems (was Re: Houston problems?)
by Sean Donelan 12 Jun '01

12 Jun '01

On Mon, 11 June 2001, Jason Legate wrote: > I am getting word that the Qwest Houston TeraPOP is down, due to flooding. > > Is this true, and does anyone know of anything else from down there? Twenty people known dead, 15,000 people relocated to emergency shelters. An estimated 3 feet (36 inches, 91cm) of rain fell in city. Damage estimates exceed $1 billion. Eight hospitals lost all or partial services. The Texas Medical Center estimates water levels were 5 feet above the 100-year flood stage at the center. Electric switchboards in the lower levels were damaged. Flood map elevations had not been updated in several decades, and the elevations in the area are actually several feet below that indicated on the flood maps. 30,000 research animals at Baylor College of Medicine died in the flooding. 105 buildings on the main campus of the University of Houston were damaged. Reliant cut power to 60 downtown office buildings after learning equipment in their basements may have been flooded. Most power outages in the Houston area were caused by lightning strikes. Southewestern Bell Telephone Houston Fairbanks, Houston Airline and East Houston central offices isolated. Houston 9-1-1 service affected, over 20 different PSAP's were impacted. Multiple offices were on emergency backup power, most power has been restored. Over 100,000 subscriber lines impacted, 20,000 lines still down. The East Houston central office is still under 5 feet of water. Southwestern Bell is using helicopters to ferry recovery teams to and from the office. AT&T reported 150,000+ subscribers were impacted due to power problems, including toll, operator services, international and wireless. Power equipment in the basement was flooded. All AT&T service was reported restored by Monday. NOTE: Only AT&T and SBC has filed FCC outage reports so far. If other carriers are affected, they aren't telling the FCC. Sprint Wireless Houston office was flooded affecting Sprint PCS service. Sprint Wireless estimates partial service will be restored on Tuesday, with no ETR for complete service restoration. Cingular Wireless lost their service to their primary long-distance carrier, and has been using a backup carrier. However, they don't have as many trunks with the backup carrier, impacting service. QWEST's Houston POP is reported flooded and out of service. Two Shell Plaza (777 Walker) basement flooded, damaged electrical and generators. As one of the "carrier hotels" in Houston, several different providers are likely affected. PULSE EFT Network, the regional ATM/Cash machine network lost their primary and secondary power at the Houston data center. This affected approximately 175,000 ATM machines and 300,000 point of sale machines. Pulse is moving to a backup data center in Dallas, but does not expect to be in service until noon on Tuesday. PULSE spokesperson said until yesterday they had a nearly 100% perfect dependibility record. This was the worst outage in 20 years. The Houston Federal Reserve Bank is operating on backup generators.

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