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Fwd: IS anyone else seeing this.
by Advanced Hosting UNIX Admin Daniel Fairchild 18 May '01

18 May '01

Thanks for every ones help I think I am pointed in the right direction now. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: IS anyone else seeing this. Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:36:27 -0500 From: Advanced Hosting UNIX Admin Daniel Fairchild <danielf(a)supportteam.net> To: <nanog(a)merit.edu> Is anyone else seeing this. I work for a large web hosting company and for the last week we have customers in Europe and Saudi Arabia that cannot contact any of our sites every time we trace back to there IP we hang in new york at multiple backbone providers. TIA for any thing you can provide. -- Advanced Hosting UNIX Admin | Daniel Fairchild danielf(a)supportteam.net Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Advanced Hosting UNIX Admin | Daniel Fairchild danielf(a)supportteam.net To rate my service or provide feedback, please visit the following URL: http://www.supportteam.net/rate.php3 Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.

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More demand or less supply?
by Sean Donelan 18 May '01

18 May '01

NERC is predicting California (and therefor Internet data centers in the region) may be subject to almost daily rolling blackout throughout the summer. Although most major Internet data centers have backup generators, the historical reliability data everyone uses is based on "normal" power conditions in the USA, not daily rolling blackouts. Is California really out of power? News reports indicate California is consuming less power than the same time last year. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/05/03/MN202545.DTL > Energy consumption was down 9.2 percent, or 2,967 megawatts in March > compared with the same time last year. In February, the number was 8 > percent, or 2,578 megawatts, and in January it was 6.2 percent or 2,091 > megawatts. So why are there power shortages in California? http://www.latimes.com/business/reports/power/lat_suit010518.htm > A Times analysis of state data found that, throughout the last two months, > about 12,000 megawatts of production was offline, more than a third of the > peak power used in California on a typical day. That has been about evenly > divided between scheduled and sudden plant shutdowns. > By contrast, shutdowns in the same period of 1999 and 2000 took only > 3,300 to 5,700 megawatts offline. Why is 2 to 3 times more capacity offline this year compared with previous years? I don't know. It appears the "supply" shortage is not due to increased demand, or even the lack of new power plant capacity; but due to the shutdown of existing capacity by generation companies at a higher rate than normal. Normally, when demand drops you would expect prices to fall. Consumption is down between 6.2% and 9.2%. However, in California generating companies have shut down power plants faster than demand fell, creating shortages and prices have been rising. It will be an interesting summer.

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Re: IS anyone else seeing this. Aliitle more info.
by Richard A. Steenbergen 18 May '01

18 May '01

On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:34:44PM -0400, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote: > > ... > > 13 ix-1-14.core1.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.196.150) 223.212 ms !X * * > > !X means communication administratively prohibited. They are filtering Actually, I take it back. I think I see the problem with your network. http://www.cihost.com/?zone=corporate/11 Obviously the packets are getting lost in that wiring mess. You should straighten that out immediately, and perhaps ebay that 7206 shelf for something a little cheaper. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras(a)e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)

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Re: A question on CE to PE route exchanges ...
by Dave Israel 18 May '01

18 May '01

On 5/18/2001 at 14:13:53 -0700, Elwin Eliazer said: > > Hi, > > RFC2547bis suggests the use of EBGP between > CE and PE routers; Is this a preferable model for > service providers and enterprise customers, when > compared to using IGP? Yes. BGP is designed for network borders. Besides, in at least one major current implementation, your IGP options are painfully limited. > Are there anyone who have deployed this? If so, > how is the EBGP peering setup if the CE router > is with a local (VPN) IP address? The BGP session lives in VPN space, the routes only exist in VPN routing tables. Your CE having a VPN address is really just the natural solution. -Dave

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Re: IS anyone else seeing this. Aliitle more info.
by Richard A. Steenbergen 18 May '01

18 May '01

On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 04:10:41PM -0500, Advanced Hosting UNIX Admin Daniel Fairchild wrote: > > Hope this makes more sence. :) Sense. > Are seeing traffic from the Saudi Arabinan Caching servers on our > netowork from ips ... > 13 ix-1-14.core1.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.196.150) 223.212 ms !X * * !X means communication administratively prohibited. They are filtering your traceroutes. But last I looked the traceroute manpage wasn't covered under the NANOG charter, so HTH. Thank you drive through. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras(a)e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)

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A question on CE to PE route exchanges ...
by Elwin Eliazer 18 May '01

18 May '01

Hi, RFC2547bis suggests the use of EBGP between CE and PE routers; Is this a preferable model for service providers and enterprise customers, when compared to using IGP? Are there anyone who have deployed this? If so, how is the EBGP peering setup if the CE router is with a local (VPN) IP address? Your response would be appreciated. - Elwin. ===== ------- Elwin Stelzer Eliazer Corona Networks ------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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IS anyone else seeing this.
by Advanced Hosting UNIX Admin Daniel Fairchild 18 May '01

18 May '01

Is anyone else seeing this. I work for a large web hosting company and for the last week we have customers in Europe and Saudi Arabia that cannot contact any of our sites every time we trace back to there IP we hang in new york at multiple backbone providers. TIA for any thing you can provide. -- Advanced Hosting UNIX Admin | Daniel Fairchild danielf(a)supportteam.net Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.

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ITR and Hospitality Suite [NOOP]
by Jay 18 May '01

18 May '01

About a 4 - 6 weeks ago the topic came up here about InternetTrafficReport.com being shut down by VA Linux / OSDN. Thus, I wanted to let people know about its revival. We have successfully acquired the site and all of its "components" from OSDN and are currently in the process of restoring it. Thus, by the end of the NANOG conference this weekend (hopefully sooner), www.internettrafficreport.com will be back up and fully functional again. This site is/was a potentially great resource for the community and certainly deserves to live on. Right now, our main concern is getting the site live again, thus initially, it will probably still have most of the OSDN information on there. In the near future this will get fixed, and we hope to open-source all of the back-end functionality and code of the site. Also during this weekend's NANOG meeting, we are hosting a hospitality suite in the hotel on both Sunday and Monday, following the days' planned events. Food, Beer, Swag, Quake Server, Geek Toys, Conversation. All attendees of NANOG are cordially invited. PLACE: Double Tree (same hotel as the conference) Room # 2120 DATE: Sunday, May 20th and Monday, May 21st TIME: After the days' planned events until the Quake server explodes or the sun comes up, whichever is first. :) -- ~Jay .. .. .. Jay Jacobson Chief Technology Officer .. .. Opnix, Inc. http://opnix.com .. .. .. .. Innovating Internet Intelligence .. .. ..

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Re: Stability of the Internet?
by brandon＠rd.bbc.co.uk 18 May '01

18 May '01

Only stability I've seen affected is that of our legal/ip people and their budget brandon

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RE: Stability of the Internet?
by Roeland Meyer 18 May '01

18 May '01

It was not a troll. Tim has been involved in ICANN issues for quite some time now. Specifically ICANN/DNSO. We now have targeted working groups that are looking at exactly this issue. Points have been raised and Tim simply seems to be trying to gather information. Since many/none of you do not seem to be involved there, he is asking here. Believe it or not, your input is desired. > -----Original Message----- > From: William Allen Simpson [mailto:wsimpson@greendragon.com] > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:02 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Stability of the Internet? > > > > Based on the email address, this was probably a troll. > > We're Sorry, but you can no longer log in via the > technologist.com hostname. > > Please log in at http://www.iname.com from now on. > > We regret any inconvenience this may have caused you. > Thank you for stopping by. > > Anyway, the fact that some of us now block BGP acceptance for the > new.net blocks, because it causes us support costs, would be an > argument that the Internet is less "stable". > > > "Tim Langdell, PhD" wrote: > > > > Yes, I was asking specifically about "stability" (with a > request that > > someone perhaps try to explain what that might mean other > than a term to > > scare people with) rather than "compatibility". BTW, I > don't think ".house" > > is a New.net TLD ;-) > > >

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