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Re: Two administrative boo-boos?
by Kyle C. Bacon 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

John et all, 198.32.187.0 is exchangepoint IP space. At some time enkido was probably connected to MAE-E-ATM, then disconnected and returned their IP address to the IX pool. The IP was re-assigned to Exodus when they upgraded or purchased a second IX connect to MAE-E-ATM and DNS never updated for the .119. (There are many of them like that). K troy@clownham mer.org To: John Fraizer <nanog(a)Overkill.EnterZone.Net>, nanog(a)merit.edu Sent by: cc: owner-nanog@m Subject: Re: Two administrative boo-boos? erit.edu 04/12/2001 09:12 PM Please respond to troy >I believe I've found two administrative boo-boos. > >4 mae-east.enkido.net (198.32.187.119) [5696] 27.268 ms 23.847 ms 24.667 ms > >Problem #1: The hop above is showing up for traces into an exodus. ..snip Quite possibly a leak on enkido's part. Have you tried regular problem resolution methods (shooting an email to both noc@enkido and noc@exodus) before posting to Nanog? >Problem #2: It looks like Winstar is announcing EP space. > >BGP routing table entry for 198.32.187.0/24 >Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) > 13706 5696 > 66.35.64.10 from 66.35.64.10 (216.226.130.1) > Origin IGP, metric 1000, localpref 100, valid, external, best > Community: 13944:13706 > Last update: Sat Apr 7 13:49:33 2001 > they arent advertising the space to any peers. they ARE however carrying the route internally and advertising it to those who purchase transit from Winstar. Perhaps this would be best resolved by contacting noc@winstar? -troy http://www.clownhammer.org

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Re: gigabit router (was Re: Getting a "portable" /19 or /20)
by smd＠clock.org 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

Craig Partridge writes: [on gigabit routers from small collections of off the shelf parts] | go ahead and build one. At minimum, we'll all learn something from your | experience and hey, you might succeed. Craig, for those of us with flaky memories, or who have just never run into DARPA stuff, do you have a pointer (e.g. URL) to your work in this area? Sean.

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OT-ish: netsol facist contact info?
by Cerqua, Toby 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

i've been trying to get through to nanog for months now to do a simple address change. of course i used their form correctly -- several times, in fact -- and i've exchanged emails with some lackey on the problem. once i made the problem clear, communications dropped off sharply. anyone know a contact with a clue? i'd rather get this done *before* the time runs out and i lose the name. thanks much. of course, please respond off-list. -t

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Re: Two administrative boo-boos?
by troy＠clownhammer.org 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

>I believe I've found two administrative boo-boos. > >4 mae-east.enkido.net (198.32.187.119) [5696] 27.268 ms 23.847 ms 24.667 ms > >Problem #1: The hop above is showing up for traces into an exodus. ..snip Quite possibly a leak on enkido's part. Have you tried regular problem resolution methods (shooting an email to both noc@enkido and noc@exodus) before posting to Nanog? >Problem #2: It looks like Winstar is announcing EP space. > >BGP routing table entry for 198.32.187.0/24 >Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) > 13706 5696 > 66.35.64.10 from 66.35.64.10 (216.226.130.1) > Origin IGP, metric 1000, localpref 100, valid, external, best > Community: 13944:13706 > Last update: Sat Apr 7 13:49:33 2001 > they arent advertising the space to any peers. they ARE however carrying the route internally and advertising it to those who purchase transit from Winstar. Perhaps this would be best resolved by contacting noc@winstar? -troy http://www.clownhammer.org

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Two administrative boo-boos?
by John Fraizer 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

I believe I've found two administrative boo-boos. 4 mae-east.enkido.net (198.32.187.119) [5696] 27.268 ms 23.847 ms 24.667 ms Problem #1: The hop above is showing up for traces into an exodus. $ traceroute 216.33.96.162 1 CORE-0-GE-3-1000M.CMH.ENTERZONE.NET (66.35.65.1) 0.539 ms 0.756 ms 0.893 ms 2 core1-FE1.Columbus.fnsi.net (209.115.93.129) [6259] 1.227 ms 1.500 ms 1.856 ms 3 border1-atm6-0-0-2.Reston.fnsi.net (216.29.101.50) [6259] 22.570 ms 22.259 ms 22.417 ms 4 mae-east.enkido.net (198.32.187.119) [5696] 31.558 ms 23.003 ms 23.337 ms 5 bbr01-g4-0.hrnd01.exodus.net (216.33.203.125) [3967] 32.443 ms 24.051 ms 23.436 ms 6 bbr02-p6-0.stng01.exodus.net (209.185.249.137) [3967] 24.382 ms 24.204 ms 24.299 ms 7 dcr04-g10-0.stng01.exodus.net (216.33.96.162) [3967] 24.476 ms * 24.124 ms Netname: ECI-7 Netblock: 216.32.0.0 - 216.35.255.255 Maintainer: ECI [whois.radb.net] route: 216.33.96.0/19 descr: NET-EXODUS-STNG01 origin: AS3967 mnt-by: MAINT-AS3967 changed: radb(a)bengi.exodus.net 20001106 source: RADB Paths: (3 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) 6259 3967 209.115.127.21 from 209.115.127.21 (206.183.226.33) Origin IGP, metric 1010, localpref 100, valid, external, best Community: 13944:6259 Last update: Mon Apr 9 12:12:15 2001 I can find no reason why these would go through enkido.net on the way to 3967. At first, I though this was just a typo in the an-addr records but, after consulting http://www.mae.net/atm/east-addr.html the address is indeed enkido's mae-east connection. Perhaps someone can explain why I'm seeing this path. Problem #2: It looks like Winstar is announcing EP space. BGP routing table entry for 198.32.187.0/24 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) 13706 5696 66.35.64.10 from 66.35.64.10 (216.226.130.1) Origin IGP, metric 1000, localpref 100, valid, external, best Community: 13944:13706 Last update: Sat Apr 7 13:49:33 2001 --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc

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Re: OT-ish: netsol facist contact info?
by troy＠clownhammer.org 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

John- Tsk tsk for advertising on Nanog! I believe its against the list Charter. And $24 per domain? Thats highway robbery these days John. If you arent paying $10 or $11 per domain, why register at all? ;-) Check out Dotster, Joker, Ghandi, and a ton of other domain registrars for **cheap** domains. And one can always buy a block from OpenSRS and do as they please. -troy >Um, are you sure you're trying to get through to NANOG? I think you've >been trying to get through to NETSOL. > >If you're having problems with them and are worried about losing a domain >because you can't update information, etc, might I suggest you do what >large quantities of others are doing and simply transfer your domain AWAY >from the low life %^&#ards? > >You can move your domains to a different registrar fairly simply. > > >http://www.lowcostdomains.com/ > http://www.clownhammer.org

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Cincinnati curfew
by Sean Donelan 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

The Cincinnati riots haven't really affected the network. However, I did find an ongoing issue with both the Cincinnati Enquirer and Cincinnati Post websites served by ICIX.NET. They've been having sporadic problems. According to other media reports, the web site problems pre-date the riots.

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RE: Qwest (fwd) - the whole story
by Andy Dills 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Daniel Duffy wrote: > The whole story presents an entirely different picture... Yes, below is the followup post I made to inet-access (but decided not to muddy nanog with, mainly because the people who seemed to be most interested were on inet-access). Also of note is that there have already been posts to inet-access that show jake.gull(a)qwest.com sending out the EXACT same spam that William Valentine sent, roughly two weeks ago. How could two different people, one a "senior account executive", one a "major account executive", send out the exact same spam within a span of two weeks, if it was not an official program? I nominate Qwest for the RBL... Andy -------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:22:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy Dills <andy(a)xecu.net> To: <list(a)inet-access.net> cc: <joe(a)qwest.com> Subject: Full qwest thread Ok, in fairness, and based on the numerous requests for the full thread, below is the full correspondance between myself and the fine sales team at Qwest in California. Here is my reply to the first email (the full text of the email I replied to is quoted in each instance below): -- On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Valentine, William H wrote: > Who is your current network provider? > > Will Valentine > Qwest Communications > Senior Account Executive > 925-974-4953 You're a senior account executive, and you find spam acceptable? Man, talk about "trying to get your foot in the door only to realize that the door is your mouth". And to top it all off, you're rude about it! "Who is your current network provider?" Like a traceroute or route server won't tell you that information... Please supply me with the contact information for your supervisor. Andy <.sig removed> -- I didn't hear back from Will, but quoted below is my response to the initial, very acceptable reply I received from Jake: -- On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Gull, Jake R wrote: > > Hey Andy just a short note to contact you in regards to Will Valentines > email. Will is somewhat new to the industry, and is working hard to make > exciting things happen here at Qwest. If Qwest can help you in any way > please advise. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > Jake Gull > Major Account Executive > (925) 974-4924 Direct > (925) 932-0599 Fax > (413) 677-3789 E-Fax Hahahaha...so, when you first start out, you're a 'senior account executive'. Cute. Andy <.sig removed> -- And then he replied with a simple "No reason to be rude", nothing more, nothing less. So here was my final reply, which was a bit over the top, I'll admit. What can I say, I was on a roll, I'm really sick of sales people emailing me, and let's face it, this is Qwest we're talking about: -- On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Gull, Jake R wrote: > No reason to be rude. > Ha! No reason to be so amazingly disengenuous either. "Senior Account Executive"...does that mean senior in high school? Or is it Qwest policy to make green sales droids "Senior Account Executives"? I find it way more likely that just like at McDonalds, "large" is really a "medium", and "super size" is "large"; "Senior Account Executive" means "Order Taker with spamming privs" and "Major Account Executive" means "Account Executive". I'm sure if I talk to the "Godlike Account Executive" I'll find an actual Senior Account Executive. I mean, seriously, call me when your company gets half a clue. I know your networking people might have a quarter of a clue between them (however you might want to let them know that fiber is useless without decent peering), so you'll really need to pick up the slack in sales. Andy -- And then, finally, the literary master that is Jake Gull replies: -- On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Gull, Jake R wrote: > Wow, > > Pretty big words from a guy that is part owner of a "mom and pop" > internet provider.. How many employees do you have this week? Ten? > Eleven? The world is your oyster Andy go get em pal. It is pretty > hilarious, when I contacted one of your employee's today and asked if > Excunet was a publicly traded company, her reply, "what does that > mean"? Where did you get that one Burger King? (I'll bet the rest of > the Excunet gang is about as sharp as a marble) I was thinking of > investing a $100. in your company, but I wouldn't want you sharp "data > guru's" to mistake my action as a hostile takeover. Watch out > Microsoft, Execunet is playing hardball. Hi from California, where the > big dog's play. Just do me one favor Andy... STAY ON THE PORCH. > > Have a super day. And you do so as well. I'm in the process of forwarding your reply to inet-access, nanog, and your supervisors. Good luck in the unemployment line! Andy -- I'm personally not offended or bent out of shape; turn about is fair play. However, if _I_ found out that one of my representatives was emailing potential customers this way, there would be severe consequences. I mean, even if the content didn't piss me off, the poor grammar and format would. So, I thought I would pass it along ;> Andy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Andy Dills 301-682-9972 Xecunet, LLC www.xecu.net xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Dialup * Webhosting * E-Commerce * High-Speed Access

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RE: Router Servers in a lab
by Yosi Yarchi 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Sorry, I forgot the files Best Regards, Yosi Yarchi KereniX Data-Aware Optical NetworksTM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Yosi Yarchi http://www.kerenix.com Phone: +972-3-9050783 Mobile: 972-58-512783 Fax: +972-3-9347720 mailto:yosi_yarchi@kerenix.com > 70 Pinsker St., Petach-Tikva 49221 ISRAEL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > -----Original Message----- > From: Yosi Yarchi > Sent: Thu, April 12, 2001 8:36 PM > To: 'mike harrison'; Barrie Jones > Cc: Perry Jannette; Nanog1 > Subject: RE: Router Servers in a lab > > > Hi > > I'm using mrtd for this purpose exactly. To begin with, I > wrote small PERL script (route_stoa.pl) which takes "show ip > bgp" output of cisco router (default free, found in the > internet) and convert it to mrtd ASCII format. Then I patched > the route_atob (route_atob.c) of mrtd package to read this > file. I used sbgp to inject the full table into my router. > Assuming that the "show ip bgp" dump file is ASproc.pl (this > is actually the name I found it), the command should be > (after trimming ASproc so only pure table exist): > > gunzip --stdout ASproc.pl | route_stoa.pl -i stdin -o stdout > | route_atob -i stdin -o stdout | sbgp -i stdin .... > > Good luck > > Best Regards, > Yosi Yarchi > > KereniX Data-Aware Optical > NetworksTM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------- > Yosi Yarchi http://www.kerenix.com > Phone: +972-3-9050783 Mobile: 972-58-512783 > Fax: +972-3-9347720 > mailto:yosi_yarchi@kerenix.com > > 70 Pinsker St., Petach-Tikva 49221 ISRAEL > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mike harrison [mailto:meuon@highertech.net] > > Sent: Wed, April 11, 2001 6:27 AM > > To: Barrie Jones > > Cc: Perry Jannette; Nanog1 > > Subject: Re: Router Servers in a lab > > > > > > > > > i like mrtd better anyway, since it has the bgpsim tool. > > it allows you > > > to withdraw and announce routes to simulate flapping. has > > frequency, > > > jitter, all that fun stuff. > > > (see www.mrtd.net) > > > > Downloading.... :) --Thanks > > > > >

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RE: Router Servers in a lab
by Yosi Yarchi 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Hi I'm using mrtd for this purpose exactly. To begin with, I wrote small PERL script (route_stoa.pl) which takes "show ip bgp" output of cisco router (default free, found in the internet) and convert it to mrtd ASCII format. Then I patched the route_atob (route_atob.c) of mrtd package to read this file. I used sbgp to inject the full table into my router. Assuming that the "show ip bgp" dump file is ASproc.pl (this is actually the name I found it), the command should be (after trimming ASproc so only pure table exist): gunzip --stdout ASproc.pl | route_stoa.pl -i stdin -o stdout | route_atob -i stdin -o stdout | sbgp -i stdin .... Good luck Best Regards, Yosi Yarchi KereniX Data-Aware Optical NetworksTM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Yosi Yarchi http://www.kerenix.com Phone: +972-3-9050783 Mobile: 972-58-512783 Fax: +972-3-9347720 mailto:yosi_yarchi@kerenix.com > 70 Pinsker St., Petach-Tikva 49221 ISRAEL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > -----Original Message----- > From: mike harrison [mailto:meuon@highertech.net] > Sent: Wed, April 11, 2001 6:27 AM > To: Barrie Jones > Cc: Perry Jannette; Nanog1 > Subject: Re: Router Servers in a lab > > > > > i like mrtd better anyway, since it has the bgpsim tool. > it allows you > > to withdraw and announce routes to simulate flapping. has > frequency, > > jitter, all that fun stuff. > > (see www.mrtd.net) > > Downloading.... :) --Thanks > >

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