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Re: The net's reaction to the election day, week, month....
by Sean Donelan 10 Nov '00

10 Nov '00

On Fri, 10 November 2000, Randy Bush wrote: > > > PSI, Verio and Abovenet appear involved in some routing dispute. > > dunno how things appear to you, but i am not aware of any reality of a > dispute to justify what appears to you. I should choose my words more carefully. PSI and Abovenet are in a dispute, and Verio has congested traffic between them because PSI and Abovenet aren't passing the traffic directly.

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The net's reaction to the election day, week, month....
by Sean Donelan 10 Nov '00

10 Nov '00

With a few notable exceptions, the Internet's reaction to this week's events has been boring. At the macro-level, the total Internet traffic barely budged. Wednesday traffic was slightly higher, but you had to squint to see the difference from the previous Wednesday's traffic levels. Even the types and number of network problems didn't change. PSI, Verio and Abovenet appear involved in some routing dispute. A couple of providers had other incidents, but only one seemed to have a major impact on service. Last Thursday, the state of Alaska lost its long distance due to a fiber cut. I don't track or report on malicious activity, but even those sorts of incidents seemed normal with most of the uptick in activity related to the middle east, not the US election. Pretty much business as usual. Some traffic patterns did change. The State of Florida's connection and Secretary of State's web site got walloped hard. Several news web sites continued running in "breaking news" mode for days. CNN, Washington Post, and the MSNBC web sites have started adding features back to their home pages. The Yahoo! News site seemed to be the winner as far as web site performance for the week, as far as the quality of their journalism, I'm not qualified. In general I didn't see much spill over to other web sites that may have been hosted by the same provider, but were not breaking news sites. So it appears most providers had sufficient head room on their networks.

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10.x.x.x networks
by Michael Long 10 Nov '00

10 Nov '00

I've been having a friendly arguement with some friends at work about wheather it's right or wrong to use 10.255.255.0/24 for a network. Technically it should work, but during our conversations we keep coming back to best practiced IP schemes. I'm wondering what others think about this. Is using 10.255.255.0/24 and possibly the reverse 10.0.0.0/24 bad practice? Mike

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SLA monitoring software package
by Yu Ning 10 Nov '00

10 Nov '00

Hi All, As we know SLA is frequently referred by some major NSPs, I wonder if there is any vendor specific, or third party software package that can help an NSP to monitor its backbone network and to see if its network conform their SLA agreement with customers? If there is any well-known SLA monitoring software ? How about IPM (Internet Performance Monitor) by Cisco? Anyone has any comment on using IPM ? thanks any input! best -------------------------------------- (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. Internet Network Product Dep. Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 --------------------------------------

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RE: SLA monitoring software package
by lance_tatman＠agilent.com 09 Nov '00

09 Nov '00

Have a look at Firehunter. www.firehunter.com It can monitor SLAs and has some nice looking reports. -Lance- > -----Original Message----- > From: Yu Ning [mailto:yuning@ns.chinanet.cn.net] > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:58 AM > To: nanog-post > Subject: SLA monitoring software package > > > Hi All, > > As we know SLA is frequently referred by some major NSPs, I > wonder if there is any > vendor specific, or third party software package that can > help an NSP to monitor its > backbone network and to see if its network conform their SLA > agreement with customers? > > If there is any well-known SLA monitoring software ? How > about IPM (Internet Performance > Monitor) by Cisco? Anyone has any comment on using IPM ? > > thanks any input! > > best > > -------------------------------------- > (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. > Internet Network Product Dep. > Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom > Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 > -------------------------------------- >

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Election 2000 - Network performance status quo
by Sean Donelan 09 Nov '00

09 Nov '00

Large scale measurements of the Internet showed no measurable difference in overall packet loss or reachability during the 2000 US national elections. Aggregate traffic measurements at NAPs and some providers' MRTG graphs didn't show much difference from last Tuesday's. Unscientific measurements of specific web sites (i.e. news and political sites) did show increased latency and timeouts, which tends to indicate the bottleneck was at the web site. CNN and MSNBC went to a stripped down front page; which helped their performance. ABCnews and CBSnews appeared to keep their full frontpage, and were very sluggish. Yahoo News, with the most stripped down, almost all text news page, was speedy all night long. Although some people throwup their hands, and say you can't control the Internet; it does seem like many of the issues are at the point under the control of the individual organization. Smaller websites such as political candidate sites did have problems loading, but they are probably going away tomorrow anyway.

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RE: GLBX Outtage
by Karyn Ulriksen 09 Nov '00

09 Nov '00

Glad to see that I'm not the only one in this boat... sort of. Thanx for the info. K > -----Original Message----- > From: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin [mailto:ekool@ns1.netmdc.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 10:14 AM > To: Karyn Ulriksen > Cc: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' > Subject: Re: GLBX Outtage > > > > I'm in the southwest region.. i noticed that our BGP session > with them was > only taking some 750 odd routes or so. I reset the session and it came > back with only one route. I've since turned down the circuit, but our > "GC" assigned space no longer functions to any "GC" hosted > site. Needless > to say, it is effecting some of our customers. > > I have had a ticket open, no ETA. > > On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Karyn Ulriksen wrote: > > | Does anybody have any additional info on FroGlo's net > outtage this morning. > | Their first level customer service reps don't seem to know > which is the hole > | in the ground (which is somewhat expected), but I'm having > a terrible time > | getting to their techs. > | > | The customer service line simply states that they are aware > of the outtage > | in the southern part of the US and have no ETA on repair. > As far as I can > | tell, it started at about 4am. > | > | Thanx in advance for any add'l info you might have. > > -- > _ __ _____ __ _________ > ______________ /_______ ___ ____ /______ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech > __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! > _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)439-0200/fax-437-3052 > /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com > [---------------------------------------------[system > info]-----------] > 11:10am up 63 days, 17:39, 3 users, load average: 0.36, 0.21, 0.18 >

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GLBX Outtage
by Karyn Ulriksen 09 Nov '00

09 Nov '00

Does anybody have any additional info on FroGlo's net outtage this morning. Their first level customer service reps don't seem to know which is the hole in the ground (which is somewhat expected), but I'm having a terrible time getting to their techs. The customer service line simply states that they are aware of the outtage in the southern part of the US and have no ETA on repair. As far as I can tell, it started at about 4am. Thanx in advance for any add'l info you might have. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Best regards, Karyn Ulriksen Director of Network Operations PublicHost, A SiteStream Company 22 Mauchly, Suite 200 Irvine, California 92618 USA Phone: (949) 743-2000 email: kulriksen(a)publichost.com URL: http://www.publichost.com ===========================================

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RE: SLA monitoring software package
by Irwin Lazar 09 Nov '00

09 Nov '00

Have a look at Oblicore, they are focused a bit more on the ASP market at the moment, but they might be worth looking at for your application. You might also wish to look at Orchestream - http://www.orchestream.com/, it's more of a provisioning tool but the management/reporting capabilities are pretty sophisticated. Irwin > -----Original Message----- > From: Yu Ning [mailto:yuning@ns.chinanet.cn.net] > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 3:58 AM > To: nanog-post > Subject: SLA monitoring software package > > > Hi All, > > As we know SLA is frequently referred by some major NSPs, I > wonder if there is any > vendor specific, or third party software package that can > help an NSP to monitor its > backbone network and to see if its network conform their SLA > agreement with customers? > > If there is any well-known SLA monitoring software ? How > about IPM (Internet Performance > Monitor) by Cisco? Anyone has any comment on using IPM ? > > thanks any input! > > best > > -------------------------------------- > (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. > Internet Network Product Dep. > Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom > Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 > -------------------------------------- >

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Re: DoS issue, conclusion
by Sean Donelan 08 Nov '00

08 Nov '00

On Tue, 07 November 2000, Christian Nielsen wrote: > not that... it is just that most ISPs dont have large staff to deal with these > types of issues. And maybe, if you were being DoSed, and you offered to pay > for their time, they might answer differently. There is a family organization you can pay weekly not to burn down your store too.

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