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Today's Outage
by Sean Donelan 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

Well, today's outage is a small one. Southwestern Bell lost power to their central office in Ladue, Missouri (just outside of St. Louis). This affects all local telephone service in Ladue and several surrounding communities. No big deal, except our Network Operations Center happens to receive its local dial tone from the Ladue central office. I guess that's one reason we have backup operations staff in Monterey California. Competition is also nice. We have a couple of other facility based carriers built into our building. Besides local dial tone, all the Internet services failed over to other carriers without incident. It did take a few minutes as people tried to isolate which phone numbers worked (e.g. long distance) but not other phone numbers (e.g. local, outbound 1-800, 9-1-1, etc). Time on hold to reach a human at Southwestern Bell repair service about 20 minutes. How many NOCs have contingency plans for reaching their local phone company when their local phone service is not working. I reallly, really, really hate companies which have only 1-800 numbers for their customer service centers. Any alternative carriers care to schedule an appointment for a presentation on your facilities based alternate local service offerings? People just reselling unbundled network elements from Southwestern Bell are in the same boat as SWBT. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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product lit spams
by Christian Kuhtz 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

Hello: I really do appreciate the helpful submissions of product literature. *BUT*, unless I explicitly request it (and I'm sure this isn't just true for me) I'd rather you not send me unsolicited product lit attachments. Size is one reason, and many of us are in a constant roaming/virtual office mode and do have a problem when we have to "quickly" POP megabyte after megabyte. Again, I am not saying that I don't want to hear from you guys, just a little bit more moderation would be good and considerate behavior as good netizens would be nice. Thank you. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated. Cheers, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz, BellSouth Corp., Sr. Network Architect <ck(a)bellsouth.net> 1100 Ashwood Parkway, Atlanta, GA 30338 <ck(a)gnu.org> "Turnaucka's Law: The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord." -- /usr/games/fortune

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He's baaaaaaack...
by Jamie Rishaw 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

He's baaaaack... (FYI, I just got an autoresponder to learn more about his shady business. Pblt.) ----- Forwarded message from sanfordwallace(a)sanfordwallace.com ----- >From sanfordwallace(a)sanfordwallace.com Tue Aug 11 12:06:48 1998 From: sanfordwallace(a)sanfordwallace.com Message-Id: <199808111606.MAA04932(a)arpa.com> Subject: from Sanford Wallace to former customer Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:34:23 Hello there. This is Sanford Wallace, former president of Cyber Promotions. I am writing this email to you because you were the administrator of at least one cyberpromo (answerme) autoresponder. Unfortunately, cyberpromo went out of business last October. I had tried to do everything possible to keep the "empire" alive, but to no avail. I am *very* sorry for the big cyberpromo mess. It was never my intention to hurt or screw anyone. Hopefully, I will be able to fix many of my mistakes from the past. Well, I, Sanford Wallace, am on a comeback! But, NOT in the spam business! I have recently put up a popular web site, http://www.sanfordwallace.com The anti-spammers have been leaving it alone, because I have made a strong commitment to never spam again. (I hope that you dont see *this* email as a spam. I have an existing relationship will all of the people on this "list." And Im not selling anything, anyway.) But I do plan to offer many free services to small businesses, which will encourage people to advertise on the Internet - WITHOUT SPAMMING! This will be one way of paying back former customers AND netizens! I already have many different services in the works. You should visit my website often to keep tabs on the latest developments. In addition, I have created an extremely popular message board, where the anti-spammers and spammers fight it out :) http://www.sanfordwallace.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html I would be very happy if you would post in that message board. I want people to see your opinion. On a final note, please feel free to reply to this message. I will read every email, and I plan to personally respond to each and every message. Thanks! And, may you have GREAT success with your business! P.S. If you have any suggestions about anything, please write me back. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! ()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<> Sanford Wallace ----> Anti-Spamford ----> DJ Spammy? Participate in: "Sanford's Board" http://www.sanfordwallace.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html ()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<> ----- End of forwarded message from sanfordwallace(a)sanfordwallace.com ----- -- jamesgarychristopherrishaw/jamie/gavroche <jamie(a)rishaw.com> || <jamie(a)arpa.com> thirty thousand feet above the earth..youre a beautiful thing.. the water on stone/the water on concrete/the water on sand/the water on fire/ smoke/the wind/the salt/the bride boat coming/dave in the water/old man

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a slight modification to ACL 112
by bmanning＠ISI.EDU 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

For those of you with access lists, I've made this small modification to the list that I originally got via Andrew Partan. You may wish to consider the change in respect to your own acls. In cisco format: access-list 112 deny ip host 0.0.0.0 any ! Loopback access-list 112 deny ip 127.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 255.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 ! RFC 1918 space access-list 112 deny ip 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 255.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 access-list 112 deny ip 172.16.0.0 0.15.255.255 255.240.0.0 0.15.255.255 access-list 112 deny ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255 ! Test Network access-list 112 deny ip 192.0.2.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 ! IPv4 LinkLocal access-list 112 deny ip 169.254.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255 --bill

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NANOG Channel Archives and Editorializing
by Eric Germann 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

Folks, I've received periodic requests from individuals who feel somehow slighted by posts contained in the NANOG archives. As you may or may not know, we host a MHonArc'd version of the list as a Searchable archive of web pages and an IE/NEtCaster Channel. A request came in today to remove a post that listed a number of hosts open for relaying. The individual asked me to remove the message so as to minimize the damage it causes the owners of the listed relays, including himself. Since these are generated from the flat archives at Merit, I'm loath to start editorializing. What do folks think? Should we edit the archives to remove "dangerous" information, or let them stand on their merits (no pun intended) and let the roaches scatter in the light? Respond privately unless you absolutely feel a need to start a discussion on it. I'll post the decision I come to on the list. Eric ========================================================================== Eric Germann CCTec ekgermann(a)cctec.com Van Wert, OH 45891 http://www.cctec.com Ph: 419 968 2640 Fax: 419 968 2641 Network Design, Connectivity & System Integration Services A Microsoft Solution Provider

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10 Aug '98

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OFFTOPIC: Wholesale port providers
by Derek Elder 10 Aug '98

10 Aug '98

Could someone forward me a list of nationals that sell wholesale dialup port capacity and proxy authentication? Derek Elder US Web Corporation Senior Engineer 212-548-7468 Pager - 888-232-5028 delder(a)usweb.com http://www.usweb.com A Strategic Partner for the Information Age.

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NANOG 14 - Atlanta - November 9-10
by William B. Norton 10 Aug '98

10 Aug '98

Hi all - We have selected NetRail as the local host and Atlanta, Georgia as the location for NANOG 14 on November 9th and 10th. As in the past, we will arrange tutorials for the Sunday before NANOG. More details in the next week or so. Cheers - Bill -------------------------------------------------------------- William B. Norton <wbn(a)merit.edu> (734) 936-2656 (New Area Code)

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Re: The Cidr Report
by Sean M. Doran 09 Aug '98

09 Aug '98

Tony Bates <tbates(a)cisco.com> writes: [also found at http://www.employees.org/~tbates/ in the "Daily Report" section. Also very useful is the Lookup things in report by AS button] > 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level I don't suppose there is anyone who knows people at these networks (and in particular Sprint Canada, Alternet, IMCI, iSTAR (also PSI, I guess), or IBM) and would be willing to contact them and say, "hey, you could and should do better aggregation"? You might want to look to see if any of the smaller networks are downstream from you. I did, and do. Sean. > ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description > > AS3602 525 313 212 40.4% Sprint Canada Inc. > AS701 1137 934 203 17.9% Alternet > AS271 344 144 200 58.1% BCnet Backbone > AS4293 469 273 196 41.8% IMCI > AS2493 432 254 178 41.2% iSTAR Internet, Inc. > AS3749 223 66 157 70.4% TECNET > AS174 723 586 137 18.9% Performance Systems International > AS2685 267 162 105 39.3% IBM Global Network - US > AS5668 134 50 84 62.7% Century Telephone Inc. > AS3221 112 42 70 62.5% RIPE-ASNBLOCK4 > AS4969 86 20 66 76.7% Net Access > AS3804 220 155 65 29.5% Bell Solutions > AS4755 114 50 64 56.1% Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. India > AS7046 228 165 63 27.6% UUNET-CUSTOMER > AS4740 393 336 57 14.5% ASN-OZEMAIL (Ozemail Pty Ltd) > AS10928 101 46 55 54.5% UNKNOWN > AS3403 180 126 54 30.0% TIAC > AS8517 122 72 50 41.0% UNKNOWN > AS6335 68 19 49 72.1% NTRNET > AS549 202 153 49 24.3% ONet Backbone > AS72 85 37 48 56.5% Schlumberger Information Network > AS1239 539 492 47 8.7% SprintLink Backbone > AS719 452 406 46 10.2% LANLINK-AS > AS4539 71 26 45 63.4% NETROPOLIS > AS4200 144 99 45 31.2% AGIS (Apex Global Information Ser > AS852 157 116 41 26.1% AGT Advance Communication > AS1785 293 252 41 14.0% NYSERNet Backbone > AS10459 48 7 41 85.4% WANSASN > AS10921 57 19 38 66.7% KIHNETWORK > AS762 117 80 37 31.6% WELLFLEET-AS

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Re: Strange BGP announcement.
by Neil J. McRae 08 Aug '98

08 Aug '98

> > neil, > > as far as i can tell this has absolutely nothing to > do with the way that mci peers with uunet. if someone > is inserting as paths into this announcement, it isn't > us. i would be eager to understand how they got there > :-). > Yah, UUNET said the same sorry that I made that hasty statement. Cheers, Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil(a)DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A>

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