July 1997 - Test - lists.nanog.org

Network problem update (fwd)
by Robert Bowman 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

> > Time: 1410 EST > Date: 22 July 1997 > > >From approximately 1300-1400 EST we experienced a cisco IOS feature which > caused significant instability in our network. > > We currently have the network undercontrol and routing instabilities > should clear up in the next 20-30 minutes. If you continue to have > problems, please contact the Sprintlink NOC. Thank you. > > Sarah Garfinkel > Sprintlink NOC > > Is this the "no router bgp <insert your AS>" feature?

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RE: Quote from Kashpureff / Re: question about per. hack
by Chris A. Icide 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

Maybe the name registration service should be operated by a not-for-profit organization governed by a board of directors elected by the users of the service? ;-) Chris -----Original Message----- From: Mathias K. [SMTP:ripper@dataway.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 2:46 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Quote from Kashpureff / Re: question about per. hack I don't think that some kind of knee jerk reaction like blocking all addresses that have ever been associated with alternic is in order. Certainly Kashpureff has gone off the deep end, but am I the only one here who thinks that he is essentially fighting the good fight? I'm sick of paying the internic every year just for the privilege of participating in their name service. The centralized nature of the system is a real drag, and I'm hoping that some genius out there is working on the next generation that will allow anyone to associate their ip address with anything they want. I believe that the capitalist aspect of what the internic is doing; taking money for an essential service and trying to make a profit, is PURE EVIL and goes against everything that I belive "the net" should be. So although I don't particularly like they way that Kashpureff is staging his rebellion, I do believe in his cause. -mat ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mathias kolehmainen + ripper(a)dataway.com (ripper(a)secretagent.bob) ninewood http://www.roomfullaspies.com/9wood public key http://www.roomfullaspies.com/pgpkey.asc

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NANOG and NAIR Synergy
by Jim Fleming 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

Is there any synergy that can be gained by having NANOG members and the proposed NAIR founders work together to allocate from the following /8 ? It seems that many of the proposed NAIR founders are also active in NANOG which is sponsored by Merit which is partially funded by the NSF. ========== Merit Network Inc. (NET-MERIT) 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 Netname: MERIT Netnumber: 35.0.0.0 Coordinator: Ogden, Jeff (JO143) jogden(a)MERIT.EDU 313-764-9430 (FAX) 313-647-3185 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: DNS.MERIT.NET 198.108.1.42 DNS2.MERIT.NET 198.109.36.3 DNS3.MERIT.NET 198.108.130.5 DNS.UCAR.EDU 192.52.106.6 Record last updated on 02-Apr-97. Database last updated on 22-Jul-97 04:12:22 EDT. ===========

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Fiber Cut New Orlenas - Baton Rouge
by Eric Wieling 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

Sprint reports that there is a fiber "incident" between New Orleans and Baton Rouge. -- Eric Wieling (eric(a)ccti.net) Corporate Communications Technology Sales: 504-585-7303 (sales(a)ccti.net) Support: 504-525-5449 (support(a)ccti.net) A BellSouth Communications Specialist. No, I don't work for BellSouth, I'm just on the phone with them so much that I'm an expert at getting them to do things.

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Re: question about per. hack
by Jay＠Iperdome.com 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

Thanks for the URL. FYI, Iperdome canceled our beta test with Eugene last week after he redirected www.internic.net At 11:49 AM 7/22/97 -0500, you wrote: > >http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/html/nanog/msg03147.html > Regards, Jay Fenello President, Iperdome, Inc. 404-250-3242 http://www.iperdome.com

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Re: DC fiber cut: field report
by Vadim Antonov 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

Sean M. Doran <smd(a)clock.org> wrote: >PDH protection switching is slow and ugly, but it allows >fall-back connectivity to be oversold or not provisioned in >the first place. That is, you can sell people "cheapo" circuits >which have no backup, and even more, circuits which will fail >when an unrelated circuit used by a customer buying an expensive >circuit fails. Yep. I would say that telcos have rather strong incentive to keep PDH in place. It may actually be a good deal for IP people -- you can get more capacity at a lower price, and handle redundancy at level 3 (hey, interior re-routing is fast). Of course, to get advantage of that practice one may want to work closely with telco to understand their modes of failure, and write a language protecting topology of his network overlay. >If you have spare fibres in the ground, light them up to >protect your primary SDH paths. Nyah. Protection does not generate more sales, and so does not seem attractive to sales folks. The ones calling for protection are engineers inside telcos, and they are usually ignored. >You don't need an additional MUX, you don't need extra DAXCs, >and you don't need to scurry around reprogramming lots of equipment >when someone wrecks your fibre. It's technical staff who's doing all the scurrying. Sales people already got their comission and are quite happy. My prediction is that redundancy of telco data services won't improve at all until they find a way to reconcile need for redundancy and desire to sell all the capacity they got. Native IP networks seem to have the ability to provide that. --vadim

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RE: Quote from Kashpureff
by Wheeler, Jesse W 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

Sounds like a Hitler of the Internet.. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." -- Don't Remember \|/ (oo ) ( <_ ) ---------------o00o-----o00o---------------- Jesse W. Wheeler Quality Assurance Analyst Reynolds & Reynolds HSD-PDX --------------------------------------------------------------- >---------- >From: Aaron Abelard[SMTP:aaron@abelard.com] >Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 10:39 AM >To: nanog(a)merit.edu >Cc: ekashp(a)alternic.net >Subject: Quote from Kashpureff > > >I'm truly demonstrating the power of what it is that >we can do," said Kashpureff. "We can literally go >down through the top 100 Web sites and switch >them one-for-one, finding the best match - we can >have all kinds of fun with this thing. I can take >China off the air if I choose to do so." > >(http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/5232.html) > >I wonder if he is /trying/ to get himself in trouble? > > Aaron Abelard / aaron(a)abelard.com / http://www.abelard.com/ > "Nunc Lento Sunito Dicunt, Moreris" (Donne) > "Lasciate tutto speranza, voiche entrate" (Dante) > "kinda like a cloud i was up way up in the sky" (NIN) > "Once more unto the breech, dear friend" (Shakespeare) > > >

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Quote from Kashpureff
by Aaron Abelard 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

I'm truly demonstrating the power of what it is that we can do," said Kashpureff. "We can literally go down through the top 100 Web sites and switch them one-for-one, finding the best match - we can have all kinds of fun with this thing. I can take China off the air if I choose to do so." (http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/5232.html) I wonder if he is /trying/ to get himself in trouble? Aaron Abelard / aaron(a)abelard.com / http://www.abelard.com/ "Nunc Lento Sunito Dicunt, Moreris" (Donne) "Lasciate tutto speranza, voiche entrate" (Dante) "kinda like a cloud i was up way up in the sky" (NIN) "Once more unto the breech, dear friend" (Shakespeare)

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NY Times says NSI takes legal action against Kashpureff
by John R Levine 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

Today's Cybertimes (at http://www.nytimes.com) has a pretty good article on Kashpureff's DNS antics. The Times says that Kashpureff says that yesterday NSI's lawyers contacted him and told them they'd be filing against him in court, asking among other things that the government seize his computers and magnetic media and prevent him from disclosing his methodology. That last is pretty silly, since his technique is described in the Times storty as well as dozens of other places, but I am surprised at NSI's patience in not taking him to court until now. NSI had no comment, but since they're in their pre-IPO quiet period, they couldn't comment even if they wanted to. Regards, John Levine, johnl(a)iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Sewer Commissioner Finger for PGP key, f'print = 3A 5B D0 3F D9 A0 6A A4 2D AC 1E 9E A6 36 A3 47

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NSI .COM Server Plans
by Jim Fleming 22 Jul '97

22 Jul '97

@@@ http://regionalweb.texoma.net/arin/FOIA/coop-h1.htm "In parallel with the four new "root" zone servers, Network Solutions plans to deploy, four new, additional name servers, each containing only the zone files for the .COM, .ORG., .NET, .EDU, .GOV, .MIL, .INT, .ARPA, and IN-ADDR.ARPA top-level domains." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ More information can be found at... <http://regionalweb.texoma.net/arin/arin.htm> -- Jim Fleming Unir Corporation

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