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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change (fwd)
by Rob Liebschutz 26 Nov '96

26 Nov '96

> > On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > If there's going to be a discussion of route-reflectors at peering points, > > I'd be happy to give a quick update on teh state of PCH, and I'd very much > > like to see a similar update on the state of CIX... (number of peers, > > average number of routes each contributes, filtering/bogon policy, etc.) > > How is the MLPA at the SF Pac Bell NAP implemented? I understand that > there currently are 8 signatories to that agreement. http://www.pacbell.com/products/business/fastrak/networking/nap/mlpa.html http://www.pacbell.com/products/business/fastrak/networking/nap/nap2-5.html

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change (fwd)
by Bill Woodcock 26 Nov '96

26 Nov '96

If there's going to be a discussion of route-reflectors at peering points, I'd be happy to give a quick update on teh state of PCH, and I'd very much like to see a similar update on the state of CIX... (number of peers, average number of routes each contributes, filtering/bogon policy, etc.) -Bill

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change (fwd)
by jagnese＠pbi.net 26 Nov '96

26 Nov '96

>I'd very much like to see a similar update on the state of CIX... (number >of peers, average number of routes each contributes, filtering/bogon policy, >etc.) I would be interested in a CIX update also. Joe

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Re: A stat on billing costs for LD...
by Vadim Antonov 26 Nov '96

26 Nov '96

Scott Huddle <huddle(a)mci.net> wrote: > Bell Atlantic... > In model, Binford said that against long distance revenue it > estimated charges of 28% for access, 20% marketing and sales, 19% > transport, 6% billing services, 8% administration, customer care > and fund for uncollectables. He said that left 19% in pretax > margins. >Anyone thinking that billing costs are 50%+ of charges are >encouraged to short BA, as they are about to lose a bundle. It's an RBOC model. The 50% figure was floated in relation to LDCs which have entirely different econmical model. BTW, the usage accounting costs are also hidden in "transport" and "administration". And don't forget capital sunk into the machinery required to support that. Meaningless figures again... I'd love to see some real statistics. --vadim

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A stat on billing costs for LD...
by Scott Huddle 26 Nov '96

26 Nov '96

>From today's Communications Daily... >TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 1996 VOL. 16, NO. 229 > >Today: [...] > Access Reform Addressed > > BIG PLAYERS SHAPE STRATEGIES TO ENTER COMPETITIVE MARKETS > > Telecom giants plan aggressive ad-intensive campaign next year > to raid competitors' markets and expand beyond traditional base > into untested territories, executives told security analysts at > N.Y. conference. ... Bell Atlantic startled analysts by sharing > financial model showing company expected 19% pretax margin from > long distance entry. [...] > In model, Binford said that against long distance revenue it > estimated charges of 28% for access, 20% marketing and sales, 19% > transport, 6% billing services, 8% administration, customer care > and fund for uncollectables. He said that left 19% in pretax > margins. Anyone thinking that billing costs are 50%+ of charges are encouraged to short BA, as they are about to lose a bundle. -scott

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change (fwd)
by Derek Elder 26 Nov '96

26 Nov '96

This will be the first nanog that I was planning to attend. The February time frame will conflict with another obligation I have as well. I have -NO- problem with attending nanog over Good Friday. Us network guys aren't supposed to have lives anyway, are we? ;) | Derek Elder http://www.accessus.net V.P., CIO | | djelder(a)accessus.net accessU.S., Inc. 888-637-3638 Ext. 222 | ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:59:15 -0500 From: Paul Ferguson <pferguso(a)cisco.com> To: Christian Nielsen <cnielsen(a)vii.com> Cc: "William B. Norton" <wbn(a)merit.edu>, nanog(a)home.merit.edu Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change This date also precludes my attending, but what the heck. Can't please everyone, I suppose. :-) - paul At 01:16 PM 11/25/96 -0700, Christian Nielsen wrote: >On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, William B. Norton wrote: > >> Hi all - >> >> Thank you to those who pointed out that Friday March 28 is Good Friday. >> >> We have worked with PacBell to move the NANOG 9 meeting up to >> Monday and Tuesday February 10th and 11th. The location is the same: The >> Grand Hyatt in San Francisco. > > Wooo there.... After already ordering my airline tickets etc.... I >think we should still have it as planned. > >Christian > > >

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by Hank Nussbacher 26 Nov '96

26 Nov '96

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change
by Paul Ferguson 25 Nov '96

25 Nov '96

This date also precludes my attending, but what the heck. Can't please everyone, I suppose. :-) - paul At 01:16 PM 11/25/96 -0700, Christian Nielsen wrote: >On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, William B. Norton wrote: > >> Hi all - >> >> Thank you to those who pointed out that Friday March 28 is Good Friday. >> >> We have worked with PacBell to move the NANOG 9 meeting up to >> Monday and Tuesday February 10th and 11th. The location is the same: The >> Grand Hyatt in San Francisco. > > Wooo there.... After already ordering my airline tickets etc.... I >think we should still have it as planned. > >Christian > > >

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ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change
by William B. Norton 25 Nov '96

25 Nov '96

Hi all - Thank you to those who pointed out that Friday March 28 is Good Friday. We have worked with PacBell to move the NANOG 9 meeting up to Monday and Tuesday February 10th and 11th. The location is the same: The Grand Hyatt in San Francisco. As a side note, on Sunday February 9th we have reserved the ballroom for a half-day workshop and an evening BOF TBD. More details as they become available. Cheers - Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------- William B. Norton Merit Network Inc. e-mail: wbn(a)merit.edu phone: (313) 936-2656 WWW: http://home.merit.edu/~wbn

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change
by Sean Rolinson 25 Nov '96

25 Nov '96

Hello, Is there an agenda and any other information available? I looked back in the Nanog list to see if I could dig up any information and was unable to find anything. If there is a Web Site I could be pointed to, that would be great. Also, if there is any information about hotel accomodations and possible hotel discounts, that would also be great! Thanks... Sean > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:36:56 -0500 (EST) > From: "William B. Norton" <wbn(a)merit.edu> > To: nanog(a)home.merit.edu > Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: NANOG 9 Date Change > Hi all - > > Thank you to those who pointed out that Friday March 28 is Good Friday. > > We have worked with PacBell to move the NANOG 9 meeting up to > Monday and Tuesday February 10th and 11th. The location is the same: The > Grand Hyatt in San Francisco. > > As a side note, on Sunday February 9th we have reserved the ballroom for a > half-day workshop and an evening BOF TBD. More details as they become > available. > > Cheers - > > Bill > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > William B. Norton Merit Network Inc. > e-mail: wbn(a)merit.edu phone: (313) 936-2656 > WWW: http://home.merit.edu/~wbn > > > _______________________________________________________________________ Sean Rolinson Systems Administrator snowdog(a)charm.net Charm Net Inc. Baltimore, DC, N. Va's Access to the Internet (410) 558-3900 Voice (410) 558-3901 Fax email: info(a)charm.net (410) 558-3300 Data (202) 956-5110 Data login: guest 'no pword' http://www.charm.net/ Personal http://www.rolinson.org/ _______________________________________________________________________

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