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Re: 60 Hudson Evacuated - May Collapse? (was RE: NYC update, etc)
by Steve Meuse 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

At 08:58 PM 9/12/01 -0400, Martin, Christian wrote: >Just heard this news... > >"60 Hudson Street NYC (nycmny1) has been evacuated and may collapse." > >Can anyone confirm this? > >chris I think that there was some confusion on this one. A vendor of ours had made a report to us that there was a structural problem with the building which caused our NOC to act appropriately, but as far as we can tell the information is unverified. The alarms were set off, and the wheels were set in motion to prepare for the worst. We're still looking into the issue, and I say again, the information is unverified. -Steve

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Re: World Trade Center attack
by Paul Timmins 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Selfridge AFB just north of Detroit is also at ThreatCon Delta -Paul At 10:47 PM 9/11/2001, you wrote: >DFAS, DCSC, Wright Patterson, and all of the other installations I'm >familiar with in the Central Ohio area are at ThreatCon Delta. > > >--- >John Fraizer >EnterZone, Inc > > >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > > > > > > >On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:46:24AM -0700, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > > >> > > >> The USA is currently in state Delta, highest alertness state as if > War has > > > > >> been declared. (Based on report on Fox News in the last 5 minutes) > > > > > > > ThreatCon Delta (how its called in the Navy at least) > > means that your base is either under attack, or an > > attack is likely. > > > > This has nothing directly to do with DEFCON's - which > > relate to readiness for war, not local attack. > > > > I heard that all bases in the DC area are in > > ThreatCon Delta. > > > > Regards > > Marshall Eubanks > > > > >Correct. FP (Force Protection) Condition Delta is the highest alert. > > >Though I've heard it's only the US East coast posts that are at Delta; > > >I've had reports that most overseas bases are at Charlie. FPCon is a > > >localized alert state and will vary by location. > > > > > >DEFCON 2 has been reached, I believe. > > > > > >DEFCON 1 does not necessarily equate automatically to war, however. It > > >is merely the maximum level of force readiness. > > > > > >-- > > >Mark C. Langston > > >mark(a)bitshift.org > > >Systems & Network Admin > > >http://www.bitshift.org > > > > > > > > > > Marshall Eubanks > > > > tme(a)21rst-century.com > >

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Suggestions (assist offers & IDC status?)
by Jason A. Mills 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Is someone (I guess I could if agreed to) collating information in one central location on the following? * Offer for assistance (DNS, MX, transit, hosting, equipment, etc...) * Internet Data Center current status I know a number of companies have offered assistance (including the one I work for), but I haven't seen any concise list of "contact this person, at this company, for this service". Additionally, a number of questions have been raised about the status of various private and shared data center / colo / telco-hotel facilities in/around NYC and WaDC... yet again, no concise list. Ideas? -J Jason A. Mills phyxis(a)rottweiler.org ---------------------------------------------- "La morale est la faiblesse de la cervelle." Arthur Rimbaud --- Une Saison en Enfer

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Re: OT Re: Analysis from a JHU CS Prof
by Steven M. Bellovin 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

In message <3B9FE472.521F1146(a)kuhtz.com>, Christian Kuhtz writes: > >Eliot Lear wrote: >> >> > OK. You need photo-id to get your boarding pass. Since I always use >> > e-tickets, the boarding pass is the only "paper" involved. >> >> Under normal circumstances for flights within the US the FAA seems not >> to require ANY form of ID. It's many of the *airlines* that require ID, >> supposedly in the name of security, but mainly to keep people from using >> other people's tickets. Continental does not enforce an ID requirement >> at SFO, for instance. You stick your credit or frequent flyer card in >> the machine and it spits out your boarding pass, which you then hand to >> the gate agent. > >Even if you did require photo ID for the boarding pass.. I can't recall a >flight in last several years where I was asked to present photo ID and >boarding pass when entering the jet way. > Continental regularly does that at EWR for e-ticket customers. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb http://www.wilyhacker.com

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60 Hudson Evacuated - May Collapse? (was RE: NYC update, etc)
by Martin, Christian 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Just heard this news... "60 Hudson Street NYC (nycmny1) has been evacuated and may collapse." Can anyone confirm this? chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Parker [mailto:cparker@starnetusa.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:30 PM > To: Adam Rothschild; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: NYC update, etc > > > > At 05:24 PM 9/12/2001 -0400, Adam Rothschild wrote: > > >- Reports indicate that there were power/HVAC issues at 32 Old Slip, > > NYC, now resolved. Multiple dialup providers are > reporting that all > > their PRI's are down. > > power/HVAC issues appear to be continuing, though things are > operational at > this time. Temp appears to be rising again slightly on our > monitoring. > Power issue is still unclear, but things have been up for >12 > hours now. > > PRI were down due to ILEC trunks being down? Some > connectivity has been > restored as we are seeing users online at this pop at this > time, though > we've been told that only limited areas are back in service. > First login > was around 11:00 EST this morning after being down most of last night. > > -Chris > -- > \\\|||/// \ Chris Parker - Manager, Development > Engineering > \ ~ ~ / \ WX *is* Wireless! \ > cparker(a)starnetusa.net > | @ @ | \ http://www.starnetwx.net \ (847) 963-0116 > oOo---(_)---oOo--\-------------------------------------------- > ---------- > \ Without C we would have 'obol', 'basi', > and 'pasal' >

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nanog-l listserv lag
by Mikael Abrahamsson 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

I find this 1h35m lag on nanog-l to be quite in the way of quickly spreading news. Any chance of getting the list servers a bit more efficient? -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike(a)swm.pp.se ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Return-Path: <owner-nanog(a)merit.edu> Received: from trapdoor.merit.edu (trapdoor.merit.edu [198.108.1.26]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f8CMbw616482 for <swmike(a)swm.pp.se>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:37:58 +0200 Received: by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix) id 2CD1891733; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Received: by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id 176219121F; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F9D91628 for <nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu>; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id 26F4A5DD93; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: nanog(a)merit.org Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [195.54.133.5]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C8F5DD91 for <nanog(a)merit.org>; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (swmike@localhost) by uplift.swm.pp.se (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f8CL1sX13237 for <nanog(a)merit.org>; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:01:54 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:01:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike(a)swm.pp.se> To: "'nanog(a)merit.org'" <nanog(a)merit.org> Subject: Re: 60 Hudson Evacuation ? In-Reply-To: <D5F0BE7E951B7645A01B9305761709DD941577(a)yyzxch07.gt.ca> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109122259300.3376-100000(a)uplift.swm.pp.se> Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Precedence: bulk Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu X-Loop: nanog

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Internet assessment - Sept 12 2001
by Sean Donelan 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

The day after. As always the priority is on the continuing rescue efforts, and for the families of the victims. Power problems are the concern for Internet services on the second day. Internet reach ability appears to returned near normal, with certain localized exceptions around New York City and circuits through New York City to Germany and other European locations. Rescue efforts may impact the network as debris must be moved or demolished. Reportly some carriers are operating on half-rings now, so additional damage could result in more service disruptions. Verizon lost 10 cell sites, Cingular Wireless lost 6 cell sites. Some cell sites were down to to power outages, some because the land lines connected though equipment in the World Trade Center towers. Verizon and Cingular are deploying additional mobile cell sites where possible, and permitted by authorities. Verizon has re-programmed Verizon owned payphones in Manhattan, providing free local telephone calls. Sprint and ATT Local Services had equipment in/near the World Trade Center. Sprint reports several circuits are down, ATT Local Service reports their equipment survived the inital collapse until the battery plant was exhausted. 25 Broadway is still on generator. 32 Old Slip is back up on generators, after being down overnight. Fuel deliveries may or may not be allowed by emergency authorities. Much of it depends on the conditions of the streets and safety of rescue works. I don't have any first-hand reports from 60 Hudson, but everything appears to be working. The New York City web site www.nyc.gov seems to be down, congested or has routing problems. I can't reach it from any network I have access. Access below 14th street is still restricted. ISP engineers may or may not be allowed access to facilities in lower Manhattan. You should contact the building owner for any special access requirements. The dust in the air creates problems keeping the generators going. If prolonged run-times are required, its likely they will need to be shutdown for maintenance (filter changes, oil changes, etc). This could result in periodic outages of a few hours. The suspension of flights has also meant the suspension of spare parts. Equipment failures (i.e card failures, chassis failures, etc) requiring replacement parts will require swapping parts with other ISPs locally or waiting until deliveries resume. Most circuit repair activity in Manhattan has been suspended, except for emergency circuits to hospitals and similar emergency response locations. ISPs rarely have restoration priority on their circuits, so any circuit failures should be expected to continue for a long-time. Facility based carriers are not subject to restoration priority for their own circuits. However, restoration priority rules apply to any customer circuits of those carriers, including other carriers or ISPs. Several ISPs, Internet colocation facilities and other service providers have offered assistance where possible in New York City, and other locations. I expect most companies are willing to make special arrangements where possible.

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Re: power issues for manhattan/telco-hotels
by Sean Donelan 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

On Tue, 11 September 2001, Jim Mercer wrote: > anyone have any idea if power is being restored, or if the facilites running > through 60 hudson, 25 broadway, etc al are at the mercy of existing diesel > supplies? 25 Broadway is on generator. Supposedly they have 48 hours of fuel. I haven't heard about 60 Hudson or 111 8th Ave. > like they are gonna let a diesel tanker just pull into town to top everyone up. >From my experience during Hurricane Andrew, it doesn't matter if you have "priority" service contracts for diesel delivery. Hospitals get first call on any diesel. ISPs aren't even on the list.

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Taleban Site hacked
by Chris Grout 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

I've been watching the list and didn't see this mentioned yet (I could very easily of missed it though). Sorry if its old news... http://www.interactiveweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D1825%2526a%253D14392,00. asp

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RE: assistance available
by Robert Boyle 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

We also have lots of colo space and bandwidth available in NJ (Newton, Jersey City (1 Evertrust and 34 Exchange Place). We also have assurances from Verizon that we can get T1 and ADSL circuits installed in record time for those who had connectivity to anywhere in NJ. Connections terminating in NY are obviously not a priority for anyone right now. We can also provide single user or LAN dialup/ISDN for those affected so they can get the word out that they are ok. -Robert ---- Original Message ---- From: vixie(a)vix.com To: nanog(a)merit.edu, Subject: RE: assistance available Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:35:44 -0700 > >PAIX and Abovenet (both subsidiaries of MFN) have space, power and >various >forms of connectivity available at 111 8th. Anyone who was impacted >by the >WTC disaster and who needs a place to set up an emergency network >node should >get in touch w/ me (I'll intro you to MFN or to Abovenet if PAIX >can't help.) >

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