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RE: Colo & b/w in Australia
by Anshuman Kanwar 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Thanks to all the off-list responses. Really insightful. Short summary : 1. IP back to the US is between $300 and $700 (AU) per month per Mbps. 2. Difficult to peer directly with the 4 big ISPs. Easier (relatively speaking) to find multilaretal peering with the 600-odd smaller ISPs. 3. Equinix Sydney comes highly recommended (used to be Pihana). I will happily mail a digest of all responses to anyone interested in the details or horror stories. Thanks again ! -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Anshuman Kanwar Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:59 AM To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Colo & b/w in Australia My company will be setting up presence in a colo in Australia, hopefully Sydney. Business is content heavy-ish. Looking for advice on : 1. Transit back to the US ( low [1-5Mbps] initial commit ). 2. Biggest players in the local DSL/Cable/Broadband market and peering with them. 3. Choice and quality of Colo facilities. I have quotes from vendors, am looking for any personal experience / horror stories. Thanks !

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Verizon mail contact
by Joe Hamelin 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

I'm having some issues getting mail out to Verizon accounts from windermere.com. Could a verizon postmaster please contact me? Thanks joe(a)windermere.com 206-315-4357 -- Joe Hamelin Edmonds, WA, US

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RE: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior
by kwallace＠pcconnection.com 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

2 quick things come to mind- single mode vs multimode, or the signal is too hot and you need attenuators. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:48 PM To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior Hello all, wondering if anyone has seen or experienced this same problem. Currently deploying an OC12 on a campus network and am using Netgear media converters. Set up the lines and had lit fiber to the building I needed it to go to. On one end (main drop) I had light and tested the connectivity which worked fine, on the other side, when I jacked up my Netgear, it flickered. Now, when I went to swap out the fiber, I noticed a full contact between the wires and the converter dropped it out. Meaning if I had the wires not fully plugged it lit, if I plugged them entirely in, it dropped. So... I ran to the other building and tried to replicate it there, and it did the same. I figured bad media converter so I swapped it out, next one worked fine. However, I took the media converter and swapped the funky acting one to yet another building and it worked fine. Anyone care to offer a thought on this? Relevant to my media converter? Bad line, "Murphy's Law", etc? =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo GPG Key ID 0x51F9D78D Fingerprint 2A48 BA18 1851 4C99 CA22 0619 DB63 F2F7 51F9 D78D http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x51F9D78D sil @ politrix . org http://www.politrix.org sil @ infiltrated . net http://www.infiltrated.net "How can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men high in this government are concerting to deliver us to disaster?" Joseph McCarthy "America's Retreat from Victory"

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Linux w/o checking TCP sequence numbers
by Steve Francis 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Not really the right forum for this, but the kindo f thing nanog'ers know: Is there a way to make Linux ignore TCP sequence numbers? My goal is to be able to have a test network with servers that a point real traffic at, mirrored off the live network. Of course, only the live servers will be responding with the SYN-ACKs, etc. The test servers replies won't make it out. So when the client replies, sequence numbers would be wrong on the test servers, and they'd kill the connection. However, I've been told there is a way to make Linux ignore the sequence numbers, and assume the packet is good. I can't find anything on google with all the thousands of patches to Linux about tcp sequence numbers, so anyone have any clues? Thanks

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noc/mail admin contact for hotmail.com?
by Dave Dennis 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

I need to get in touch with RP at hotmail, tried abuse(a)hotmail.com, which is only for consumers of hotmail, as it needs to reference a hotmail account. I tried msnhst(a)microsoft.com, but have received no response. Is there a more appropriate known address? This has to do with blocking mail at the server level. Reply off-list as preferred. Kind regards, Dave D +------------------------- + Dave Dennis + Seattle, WA + dmd(a)speakeasy.org + http://www.dmdennis.com +-------------------------

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RE: XP SP2 other than windows update
by Hannigan, Martin 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

That URL does resolve to Akamai, but I had heard a rumor they weren't going that route. -M -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Steven Susbauer Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:24 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: XP SP2 other than windows update I would be surprised if it wasn't on akamai, which would cut down on much of the external traffic. On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 12:01:24 -0400 , Hannigan, Martin <hannigan(a)verisign.com> wrote: > > > Already got mine and it went nice and smooth as far as I can tell. > Kudos to MS. > > Has anyone noticed a real impact on the internet, traffic wise, related > to XP2? I'd suspect that some of the tier1's may see the traffic? Maybe > not? > > -M > -- ------------------------ Steven Susbauer

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RE: XP SP2 other than windows update
by Michel Py 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

________________________________ From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu on behalf of Steven Susbauer Sent: Wed 9/1/2004 9:49 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: XP SP2 other than windows update I hadn't heard they were keeping it off akamai. I have heard they're asking ISP's not to mirror it (and any other mirrors), and have shut down bittorrent downloads. That's understandable as they would be blamed if someone downloaded a compromised version (strange how they didn't mind Sp1 mirroring...). On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 12:30:47 -0400 , Hannigan, Martin <hannigan(a)verisign.com> wrote: > > > That URL does resolve to Akamai, but I had heard a rumor > they weren't going that route. > > -M ---------------- Steven Susbauer

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RE: XP SP2 other than windows update
by Hannigan, Martin 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Already got mine and it went nice and smooth as far as I can tell. Kudos to MS. Has anyone noticed a real impact on the internet, traffic wise, related to XP2? I'd suspect that some of the tier1's may see the traffic? Maybe not? -M -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Sean Donelan Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:00 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: XP SP2 other than windows update On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, David A. Ulevitch wrote: > > would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it > > after waiting a week with the "Automatic Updates" switched on, and > > nothing arriving. > > Microsoft isn't hiding the link: > http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165b076b-aaa9-443d-84f0-73cf11f dcdf8/WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe CompUSA is offering to install XP SP2 on any Windows XP computer for free if you bring your computer to any of their stores. Expect them to use the opportunity to try to sell you some upgrades or security software. You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6 weeks, people report they are getting a CD in the mail in about a week. There has been talk about Microsoft XP SP2 CD's being distribued through various consumer and business electronics stores. But I haven't seen any yet.

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RE: XP SP2 other than windows update
by Michel Py 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

> Roland Perry wrote: > I'm an IT professional, but only one of my PCs is running XP. > And it's a full-price retail copy, not a bundled-OEM or upgrade. > Hence me feeling left out when I'm told that "IT professionals" > have already been allowed their Windows-update. Every IT professional I know has had SP2 available three different ways for two weeks: 1) Somewhere on a server for support staff to begin to experiment with and for a small set of guinea pig users to install. 2) On a CD made after the download. On my CD I also have SP1 for Office 2003. Part of being an IT professional includes maintaining an updated set of CDs carried at all times. 3) On a slipstreamed install CD for new installs. Optionally, 4a) On an SP2 image on a RIS server 4b) On a ghost images The final SP2 has been available on M$ site even for people that don't have an MSDN subscription. Anyone that wants to call themselves an "IT professional" _does_ download and try major updates _before_ they are made available to end users, period. Michel.

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RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P 2P
by Brian Battle 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Akamai or not, microsoft is overwhelmed by the demand for SP2, and today is giving the message listed below on windowsupdate: Download and install it now - Currently not available We are currently experiencing a high level of demand for Windows XP Service Pack 2, so please check back later for availability. We apologize for any inconvenience. If you prefer to obtain SP2 another way, the easiest way to get Service Pack 2 is to turn on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP and it will be downloaded when you are connected to the Internet without you having to take any further action. So then I thought about getting it from the torrent at sp2torrent.com, but sadly microsoft has made them remove the torrent... -----Original Message----- From: Byron L. Hicks [mailto:bhicks@nmsu.edu] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:21 PM To: Jeff Wheeler; Henry Linneweh Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of P2P Not true. For those of us who host Akamai servers, we could download SP2 with no problems. We did not need P2P, or MSDN. In fact, I would be very reluctant to trust a Windows update downloaded via P2P. -- Byron L. Hicks Network Engineer NMSU ICT On 8/30/04 12:43 PM, "Jeff Wheeler" <jwheeler(a)usip.org> wrote: > > My two cents: > When Windows XP SP2 was released the only way to get it (for those of > us not part of MSDN at least) was via P2P. The same has been true for > countless other large but important software releases on various > platforms (particularly ones like Linux that aren't backed by huge > corporations with tons of bandwidth to host these sorts of files). > > Point is? P2P is extremely valuable for the timely and cost-effective > delivery of critical updates to the masses. > > -- > Jeff Wheeler > Postmaster, Network Admin > US Institute of Peace > > > On Aug 30, 2004, at 2:27 PM, Henry Linneweh wrote: > >> >> So I would like some professional expert opinion to >> give her on this issue since it will effect the >> copyright inducement bill. Real benefits for >> production and professional usage of this technology. >> >> -Henry >

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