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Any routing issues with TWT in Seattle today?
by Arlington Albertson 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

Hey folks, Just wondering if anyone is seeing any issues with TWT routing this morning around Seattle. We've seen a few routing problems and connection issues which appear to be related to this. -AA

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Re: BGP in the Washngton Post
by Scott Weeks 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

--- bill(a)herrin.us wrote: From: William Herrin <bill(a)herrin.us> Interesting story about BGP and security in the Washington Post today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/05/31/net-of-insecurity-part… ------------------------------------------------ Great article for the WP and they asked good questions from the correct people, but I have to take issue with the lack of network operator's participation comments: : But getting network operators to participate is proving : difficult. : Many network operators also are cool to taking the further : step of adopting a secure new routing protocol called BGPSEC : to replace BGP. : “Unless [network] operators can see that the benefits will : generally outweigh the costs, they just won’t deploy it.” It's more that the managers who have no idea what is going on are forcing operators to focus their attention elsewhere, rather than the important things until everyone's behind the 8-ball. Then, all of the sudden, the mostly clueless managers are all about it. But, by then it's too late. Farting in a hurricane and hoping it makes a difference... ;-) scott

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Re: BGP Multihoming 2 providers full or partial?
by Scott Weeks 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Weeks" <surfer(a)mauigateway.com> --- nogs(a)border6.com wrote: From: Pawel Rybczyk <nogs(a)border6.com> platform where we included new feature called That might be interesting for you. ------------------------------------------- This might be interesting for you. https://www.nanog.org/list Please read #5 before going further. Product Evangelist -------------------------------------- BLECH! I need a shower. ----------------------------------- --- nanog(a)ics-il.net wrote: From: Mike Hammett <nanog(a)ics-il.net> Seems like a perfectly good post to me. Someone made an inquiry as to how to solve a particular problem There were multiple solutions presented. Pawel posted relevant, on-topic information regarding how his product could solve the problem in a unique way. No harm, no foul. ------------------------------ You've obviously never been hounded by sales folks scraping this list that believe they should never give up. It's painful to say the least. If every "Product Evangelist" were allowed to do this, NANOG would be a nightmare. The only answer many times is to be sure you don't buy from "Product Evanglists" that post their crap on NANOG. Hit them where it hurts (no sales because they did that) and they stop. Quickly. To others out there thinking of doing the same, again I say Please read #5 https://www.nanog.org/list scott

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Capacity/transit costs vs growth
by Jean-Francois Mezei 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

I am looking for some rough estimates of the ratio of capacity (equipment) pricing declines versus average increase in end user capacity. For instance, say end user average capcity usage increases 50% over 3 years, would the ISP's costs also increase by 50% ? Or would increased efficency of equipment result in a 50% decrease in capacity costs yielding roughly the same total cost to the service provider ? So I am looking are some sort of ratio of gross costs increases/decreases relative to end user usage increase in usage over time. Context: Wholesale services in Canada are priced linearly and there is a process trying to convince the CRTC to review them ASAP. So if average use grows from 1mbps during peak to 1.2mbps, we are looking at 20% increase in costs in a linear pricing scheme. But if this happens over a period where there have been improvements in equipment/efficiency, then one would think the increase in costs would be less than 20%. So I am looking for any and all information that can help convince the regulator that current linear increase is not right and needs a review. any help appreciated.

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PeeringDB Admin
by Jason Bothe 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

Could I please have a PeeringDB admin contact me off-list ? Thanks! Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking Rice University o +1 713 348 5500 m +1 713 703 3552 jason(a)rice.edu

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BGP Multihoming 2 providers full or partial?
by Maqbool Hashim 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

Hi, We are an enterprise that are eBGP multihoming to two ISPs. We wish to load balance in inbound and outbound traffic thereby using our capacity as efficiently as possible. My current feeling is that it would be crazy for us to take a full Internet routing table from either ISP. I have read this document from NANOG presentations: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uac… The above document reenforces my opinion that we do not need full routing tables. However I was seeking some clarity as there are other documents which suggest taking a full routing table would be optimal. I "guess" it depends on our criteria and requirements for load balancing: - Just care about roughly balancing link utilisation - Be nice to make some cost savings We have PI space and two Internet routers one for each ISP. Either of our links is sufficient to carry all our traffic, but we want to try and balance utilisation to remain within our commits if possible. I am thinking a "rough" approach for us would be: - Take partial (customer) routes from both providers - Take defaults from both and pref one Maybe we can refine the above a bit more, any suggestions would be most welcome! Many Thanks

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Colo Capacity quote in Renton, WA 98057, USA needed
by Don Gould 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

Hi, I have half a dozen servers in a DC in Renton, WA 98057, USA. I'm looking for quotes 7 RU with 100mbit PIR. I do need A and B side power. The pricing from my current provider has got out of hand and they have burnt the relationship. As a result I am interested in hearing from others who might be interested in servicing this small requirement. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb)

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Giganews/AS30094 Contact
by Carlos Friacas 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

Hello, Can someone from Giganews/AS30094 please contact me off-list? Thanks & Regards, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos Friacas See: Network Services Area www.fccn.pt FCT - Fundacao para a Ciencia e a Tecnologia www.fct.pt FCCN Unit www.geant.net Av. do Brasil, 101, 1700-066 Lisboa, Portugal, Europe www.gigapix.pt Tel:+351 218440100 NOC:+351 218440101 Fax:+351 218472167 www.6deploy.eu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Internet is just routes (550752/22735), naming (billions) & ... people!"

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Suddenlink RWHOIS = down
by Blair Trosper 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

Can someone from Suddenlink contact me offlist (or just handle) for the fact that your rwhois server is offline? Found a referral to rwhois.suddenlink.net:4321. connect: Connection refused

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300+ms of hotel wifi bufferbloat - peaking at 1.5 sec!
by Dave Taht 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/578850 I would get a kick out of it if folk here tried this new speedtest periodically (on the "cable" setting) during the nanog conference. ;) There is a hires option for more detail on the resulting charts... (or fiddled with "flent" (flent.org)) -- Dave Täht What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast

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