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"Steven J. Richardson": Re: Delegation
by Steven J. Richardson 24 May '95

24 May '95

Sorry for this message; it seems that merit.edu had problems with your message (and some with one from Sean) at the time in question. This appears to have been fixed for several days, now. Steve R. ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: list-admin(a)merit.edu Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by home.merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id TAA16742; Mon, 22 May 1995 19:02:39 -0400 Received: from home.merit.edu (home.merit.edu [198.108.60.42]) by merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id SAA00380 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Mon, 22 May 1995 18:32:54 -0400 Received: (from sjr@localhost) by home.merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) id SAA15604; Mon, 22 May 1995 18:32:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 18:32:51 -0400 From: "Steven J. Richardson" <sjr(a)merit.edu> Message-Id: <199505222232.SAA15604(a)home.merit.edu> To: briank(a)kimbro.com, nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Delegation Status: O Brian: Please cease this. thanks, Steve Richardson/Merit == >From list-admin(a)merit.edu Fri May 19 03:27:59 1995 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by home.merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id DAA19726; Fri, 19 May 1995 03:26:36 -0400 Received: from kimbro.kimbro.com (root(a)[199.33.239.1]) by merit.edu (8.6.10/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id PAA06014 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:22:36 -0400 Received: from kimbro.kimbro.com (briank(a)localhost.kimbro.com [127.0.0.1]) by kimbro.kimbro.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA07439 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:21:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199505171921.MAA07439(a)kimbro.kimbro.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Delegation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:21:52 -0700 From: "D. Brian Kimmel" <briank(a)Kimbro.Com> Status: R Is there a document or reference available that spells out the proper way to delegate in-addr authority? Thanks Brian D. Brian Kimmel Kimbro, Inc. Voice 937-8381 ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Delegation
by D. Brian Kimmel 24 May '95

24 May '95

Is there a document or reference available that spells out the proper way to delegate in-addr authority? Thanks Brian D. Brian Kimmel Kimbro, Inc. Voice 937-8381

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NANOG Speakers -- READ THIS!
by sob＠academ.com 24 May '95

24 May '95

If you were a speaker at NANOG, please send me the machine readbable copies of your slides. I can take most any format -- PowerPoint, FrameMaker, Word, text, postscript, whatever. Upload it via FTP to owlman.academ.com in the /incoming directory. Or, send it in a MIME-encoded email message. tar is fine, zip is fine, binhex is fine. Thanks for your assistance. Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob(a)academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: bcm!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.

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Will there be mbone ?
by Tony Bates 24 May '95

24 May '95

Is the forhcoming meeting going to be multicast ? Thanks, --Tony.

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Re: Delegation
by Steven J. Richardson 22 May '95

22 May '95

Brian: Please cease this. thanks, Steve Richardson/Merit == >From list-admin(a)merit.edu Fri May 19 03:27:59 1995 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by home.merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id DAA19726; Fri, 19 May 1995 03:26:36 -0400 Received: from kimbro.kimbro.com (root(a)[199.33.239.1]) by merit.edu (8.6.10/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id PAA06014 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:22:36 -0400 Received: from kimbro.kimbro.com (briank(a)localhost.kimbro.com [127.0.0.1]) by kimbro.kimbro.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA07439 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:21:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199505171921.MAA07439(a)kimbro.kimbro.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Delegation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:21:52 -0700 From: "D. Brian Kimmel" <briank(a)Kimbro.Com> Status: R Is there a document or reference available that spells out the proper way to delegate in-addr authority? Thanks Brian D. Brian Kimmel Kimbro, Inc. Voice 937-8381

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I-D ACTION:draft-degroot-classless-inaddr-00.txt
by Internet-Drafts＠CNRI.Reston.VA.US 22 May '95

22 May '95

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Classless in-addr.arpa delegation Author(s) : H. Eidnes, G. de Groot Filename : draft-degroot-classless-inaddr-00.txt Pages : 6 Date : 05/19/1995 This document describes a way to do in-addr.arpa delegation on non-octet boundaries. The proposed method should thus remove one of the objections to do subnetting on non-octet boundaries but perhaps more significantly, make it possible to assign IP address space in smaller chunks than 24-bit prefixes without losing the ability to delegate authority for the corresponding in-addr.arpa mappings. The proposed method is fully compatible with the original DNS lookup mechanisms specified in [1], i.e. there is no need to modify the lookup algorithm used, and there should be no need to modify any software which does DNS lookups either. Internet-Drafts are available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-degroot-classless-inaddr-00.txt". A URL for the Internet-Draft is: ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-degroot-classless-inaddr-00.txt Internet-Drafts directories are located at: o Africa Address: ftp.is.co.za (196.4.160.2) o Europe Address: nic.nordu.net (192.36.148.17) Address: ftp.nis.garr.it (192.12.192.10) o Pacific Rim Address: munnari.oz.au (128.250.1.21) o US East Coast Address: ds.internic.net (198.49.45.10) o US West Coast Address: ftp.isi.edu (128.9.0.32) Internet-Drafts are also available by mail. Send a message to: mailserv(a)ds.internic.net. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-degroot-classless-inaddr-00.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ds.internic.net can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e., documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. For questions, please mail to Internet-Drafts(a)cnri.reston.va.us. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-degroot-classless-inaddr-00.txt

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Re: PI vs PA Address Space
by Hank Nussbacher 22 May '95

22 May '95

On Wed, 17 May 1995 13:00:00 +0200 you said: Doc 1: > > Provider Independent > > vs > > Provider Aggregatable > > Address Space > > > > Daniel Karrenberg > RIPE NCC Doc 2: > On the Implications of Address Ownership for Internet Routing > <draft-ietf-cidrd-ownership-00.txt> Doc 3 (from Internic): > INTERNIC IP ALLOCATION GUIDELINES > > FOR INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS (ISP) Can I make a suggestion? Can Yakov, Daniel and the people from Internic (Mark and Kim), get together and merge these 3 papers into one draft RFC and put on the fast track so that everyone not following these internal discussions will know what to do come the end of the summer? Hank Nussbacher Israel

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Updated NANOG traceroute available (AS#, DNS cidr, VMS)
by Ehud Gavron 21 May '95

21 May '95

Date Sent: 21-MAY-1995 20:56:20 A while back someone here posted a ``NANOG traceroute'' that did some pretty cool things, namely shows delay statistics, microtimers, etc. I've updated it and made it available for anonymous ftp at ftp.aces.com in the [.software.traceroute] directory. This version also works on VMS. Details below. [I hope to see this message come back at me only once...] Ehud -- Ehud Gavron (EG76) gavron(a)Hearts.ACES.COM 1. Original version didn't support AS # lookups The new version checks the AS # for which each hop's network is registered and displays it. sl-ana-2-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.70.2) AS1239 30 ms 30 ms 2. Original version didn't do proper checking for nixed DNS replies. If a network had no SOA record (like where MCI has one SOA record for a chunk of 256 class-C style networks and not 256 separate SOAs) it would display garbage. The new version checks /24 networks, and /16 networks, and even /8 networks in-addr for a valid SOA before displaying a useful string like "[no SOA record]". border3-hssi2-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.34.9) [hostmaster(a)mci.net] 3. Original version had incorrect behavior for when the number of probes were set to 1. If a reply ever came back (like from ttl=1) the loop would terminate. The new version behaves correctly for nprobes=1. 4. Original version had no support for VMS. The new version compiles, links, and runs fine under VMS. 5. Original version had various implicit casts that make some compilers (some ANSI compliant ones) complain. The new version fixes these. For some reason, the only way I could get BSDI to compile it (and find _sqrt) is to add -lm to the cc line. cc -O traceroute.c -lm. Ehud -- Ehud Gavron (EG76) gavron(a)Hearts.ACES.COM

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Re: Draft internic ip allocation doc
by Sean Doran 20 May '95

20 May '95

>... must start filtering something to protect [the Internet] ... Such filters exist and are in place in at least three sizable ISPs' edge routers. The routability of anything longer than /24 is no longer an issue -- it won't happen with anything even remotely approaching global scope. The line in the sand for the various /8s that haven't yet started being delegated by registries is there, and has been announced and discussed ad nauseam. Sean. (waiting for the obligatory, "you're only doing this to keep your customers locked in place because you're an evil greedy bastard!", and wondering if it's going to be an IAB member _again_.) - -- Sean Doran <smd(a)clock.org>

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ARGH! Duplicates are from MERIT machines. MERIT - fix!
by Sean Doran 20 May '95

20 May '95

Oh, MERIT.... please to fix your broken mailer that keeps sending LOTS duplicates of the same message.... Sean. Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by icm1.icp.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA28959; Sat, 20 May 1995 03:36:45 -0400 Received: from cesium.clock.org ([17.255.4.43]) by merit.edu (8.6.10/merit-2.0) with SMTP id PAA05689 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:17:25 -0400 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by tiny.sprintlink.net (8.6.9/8 .6.9) with ESMTP id DAA13483; Sat, 20 May 1995 03:25:36 -0400 Received: from cesium.clock.org ([17.255.4.43]) by merit.edu (8.6.10/merit-2.0) with SMTP id PAA05689 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:17:25 -0400 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by icm1.icp.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA26145; Sat, 20 May 1995 01:31:17 -0400 Received: from cesium.clock.org ([17.255.4.43]) by merit.edu (8.6.10/merit-2.0) with SMTP id PAA05689 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:17:25 -0400 sendfail(8) considered harmful!

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