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NANOG Meeting
by Pam Ciesla 18 Aug '95

18 Aug '95

OOPS! My mistake the NANOG Meeting is will be in PITTSBURG, PA. Pam

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Re: CIDR FAQ
by Hank Nussbacher 18 Aug '95

18 Aug '95

On Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:01:14 -0700 (MST) you said: >> On Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:30:19 +0200 (MET DST) you said: >> >Simon Poole wrote: >> >> >> >> Yakov, if you have data that CIDR is -not- working for new allocations >> >> please present it here. >> >> >> >> Simon >> > >> >CIDR doesn't work as it should. We had to inject all of the more specifics >> >of 194.45/16 cause Sprintlink isn't able to handle CIDR routes correctly. >> >> Can someone explain this a bit more? This sounds like a showstopper >> for CIDR. > >I have noticed some similar problems. MCI routing breaks if you provide them >with an identical path at multiple interconnects if it is advertised to them >at equal cost, hence they always like to see MEDs. In regards, a recent announcement (8/11): To All Maintainers of Data in the MCI Routing Registry, Until very recently, ANS's routers have been unable to support the MULTI_EXIT_DISCRIMINATOR (MED) attribute of BGP4. The result of this was that if an Autonomous System (AS) peered with ANS in more than one place, static configuration was required to specify which peer is the preferred exit point from ANS. This need for static configuration was satisfied with the 'advisory: AS690' attribute. ANS has now implemented MEDs in their routers and has already tested it with a few ASs. They have told us that they are willing to turn on MEDs with AS3561 on Tuesday 15 August. This greatly simplifies the 'advisory' attribute needed in the registry. For example, if your current 'advisory' attribute looks like: advisory: AS690 1:3561(11) 2:3561(144) 3:3561(27) 4:3561(147) 5:3561(218) it can now be reduced to: advisory: AS690 1:3561 We do not know which other providers, if any, have arranged to send MEDs to ANS. So, if some of the networks you maintain in the RR are multi-homed to provider(s) which also peer with ANS in more than one place, you would need to talk directly to the other provider(s) to see if the 'advisory' string should change. An example of an 'advisory' attribute for a network that is homed to both MCI and Alternet, with primary service through MCI, and assuming that ANS has not enabled MEDs with AS701, is: advisory: AS690 1:3561 2:701(147) 3:701(144) The RR Users Guide will be updated with this information; it will not contain any more information than this e-mail message. The most recent version of the Users Guide is always available from "ftp://ftp.mci.net/pub/rr/docs/mci-user.txt" (a PostScript version is also available with an extension of '.ps'). MCI is volunteering to change 'advisory' attributes in existing route objects in the MCI RR to the new syntax; ASs other than 3561 *will* be preserved, so the semantic of the 'advisory' will *not* change. We will make this change on Friday morning 11 August. If you have any questions or concerns about this, please tell us before Friday morning by sending a message to 'rr-types(a)mci.net'. Starting Friday morning 11 August, please make sure that all new and updated route objects contain the new 'advisory' string. Thank You. /jws >Dave Hank

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Re: CIDR FAQ
by Sean Doran 18 Aug '95

18 Aug '95

>MCI routing breaks if you provide them with an identical >path at multiple interconnects I find this very strange, since MCI does this properly at multiple interconnects with a number of providers. Please -- if there are problems let's try to fix them in the normal fashion, rather than offer generalizations on mailing lists in what is likely to be easily misunderstood as "things don't work in general" rather than "there are specific problems which creep up from time to time". Sean.

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Re: CIDR FAQ
by Hank Nussbacher 18 Aug '95

18 Aug '95

On Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:09:52 PDT you said: >Paul, > >> New allocations are (as of 1466bis) being done through providers, on CIDRized >> lines. Whether IPv4 or IPv6, new allocations are not going to badly impact >> the core routing table size. > >Does that mean that all the internet registries no longer allocate >/24 (or longer) prefixes that have nothing to do with the actual >Internet topology (these prefixes aka "portable addresses") ? Perhaps >folks from various Internet registries would be able to answer this >question. I assign /22s to ISPs. When they use them up I give them another /22. Private companies that show a need for a /24 are assigned a /24. >Yakov. Hank

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Re: CIDR FAQ
by Sean Doran 18 Aug '95

18 Aug '95

This is something that should have been sent to engineer(a)sprint.net. Please re-send, and when it is convenient you and one of our engineering staff (or even me, if you like) can sit down and have you withdraw your more specifics and try to watch what's going on. BTW, if you have a ticket number from the INSC, management around here would love to know what it is. Sean.

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Re: CIDR FAQ
by Sean Doran 18 Aug '95

18 Aug '95

I am having trouble understanding the assertion still, and am wondering what the problem is; I'm going to dive into all sorts of archived mail looking for clues about 194.45/16, but in the mean time here are some observations: Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path *> 194.45.0.0/16 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? interesting prefixes *> 194.45.40.161/32 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.120.0/26 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.120.64/26 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.120.128/26 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? all prefixes. Note that if you offered ONLY 194.45/16, rather than that AND all the more specifics, things would work fine. Have you done this? What was the problem? Why are you asserting that the problem is with SprintLink? Sean. - -- Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path *> 194.45.0.0 192.41.177.245 1 90 0 174 i *> 194.45.0.0/16 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.1.0 192.41.177.245 1 90 0 174 i *> 194.45.2.0 192.41.177.245 1 90 0 174 i *> 194.45.3.0 192.41.177.245 1 90 0 174 i *> 194.45.4.0 192.41.177.245 1 90 0 174 i *> 194.45.5.0 192.41.177.245 1 90 0 174 i *> 194.45.6.0 192.41.177.245 1 90 0 174 i *> 194.45.7.0 192.41.177.245 1 90 0 174 i *> 194.45.8.0 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.9.0 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.10.0 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.11.0 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.12.0 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.13.0 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.14.0 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.15.0 192.41.177.240 3 90 0 1800 1755 517 ? *> 194.45.16.0 192.41.177.181 1 90 0 3561 1220 ? * 192.41.177.181 0 90 0 1800 3561 1220 ? * i 198.32.130.227 1 90 0 3561 1220 ? * i 144.228.103.1 1 90 0 3561 1220 ? 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Re: CIDR FAQ
by Sean Doran 18 Aug '95

18 Aug '95

| >CIDR doesn't work as it should. We had to inject all of the more specifics | >of 194.45/16 cause Sprintlink isn't able to handle CIDR routes correctly. | | Can someone explain this a bit more? This sounds like a showstopper | for CIDR. Can someone explain it at all? This is the first *I*'ve heard of this. Sean. (taking a look now though)

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Re: CIDR FAQ
by Hank Nussbacher 18 Aug '95

18 Aug '95

On Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:30:19 +0200 (MET DST) you said: >Simon Poole wrote: >> >> Yakov, if you have data that CIDR is -not- working for new allocations >> please present it here. >> >> Simon > >CIDR doesn't work as it should. We had to inject all of the more specifics >of 194.45/16 cause Sprintlink isn't able to handle CIDR routes correctly. Can someone explain this a bit more? This sounds like a showstopper for CIDR. > >Arnold Hank

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Re: NANOG Meeting
by Vince Fuller 17 Aug '95

17 Aug '95

The NANOG Meeting will be Monday, 9/11 9:00AM - 5:00PM and Tuesday, 9/12 9:00AM -12:00PM with a continental breakfast each morning at 8:30AM. This meeting will be held in Philadelphia, PA. Umm, last I checked, the NANOG meeting was supposed to be at the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, which I believe is about a six to eight hour drive from Philadelphia. I assume the above is a typeo... --Vince

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Internet Security tutorials this fall
by stonem＠farnet.org 17 Aug '95

17 Aug '95

Together with CERT, (Computer Emergency Response Team), FARNET is again hosting Internet Security tutorials. Internet Security for Managers is a 1/2 day overview of security issues, approaches and strategy. It will be Sept. 6, and Nov. 16th. Internet Security for System and Network Administrators is a 1 day technical tutorial. It will be Sept. 7. Both will be held in Washington DC. See the FARNET home page (http://www.farnet.org) or send to seminars(a)farnet.org for more information. Regards, Martha ************************************************************************* Martha Stone-Martin Program Director FARNET...."The Internet Builders" (617) 273-5423 stonem(a)farnet.org ************************************************************************* Martha Stone-Martin Program Director FARNET...."The Internet Builders" (617) 273-5423 stonem(a)farnet.org (http://www.farnet.org)

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