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Anybody from PSI?!?!?!
by dvv＠sprint.net 04 Jan '97

04 Jan '97

Hey, anybody from PSI here? c.root-servers.net is out of its mind, so approx 1/9 of _all_ valid DNS requests on the Internet end up with NXDOMAIN!!! Dima P.S. Yes, I did send a message to psinet-domain-admin(a)PSI.COM a couple of hours ago.

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Re: Non-profit IP Registry
by Joe Pace 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

> > As a customer I have no problem paying for /16s so long as you'll give > me as many as I wish to buy. > -- > Eliot Lear > [lear(a)sgi.com] As a customer I feel the same. But this is precisely why addresses should never be sold. How do you expect some mom & pop business or individual to compete with billion dollar companies that don't blink at a $50K service charge. Joe Pace pace(a)honda.com

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Non-profit IP Registry
by Kim Hubbard 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Hello, Recently, there has been discussion concerning the need to keep IP issues separate from domain issues. The stability of the Internet in part relies on the careful management of the Internet Protocol addresses. The point has also been made that the management of the IP space should be put in the hands of those that depend on it - the users. Whether those users are ISPs, corporate entities, universities, etc., they should all play a role. To this end, Network Solutions, Inc. plans to create and initially fund a non-profit 501(c)6 organization to be known as The American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) to manage the IP address space for the territories it currently administers, similar to the APNIC and RIPE regional IP registries. This organization will be a non-profit spin-off of the current InterNIC IP group. Network Solutions, Inc. will initially fund ARIN until fees are imposed and will offer continued financing until such time as it is a stable, self-sufficient entity capable of funding itself through its membership dues, registration and maintenance fees. Details on the proposed organizational structure and 1997 funding model are located at http://rs.internic.net/arin. Questions regarding the proposal will be answered on the ARIN mailing list. To subscribe, send mail to: listserv(a)internic.net with "subscribe naipr" in the body along with your first and last name. Regards, Kim Hubbard InterNIC Registry

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Re: Non-profit IP Registry
by Todd R. Stroup 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Arun Welch wrote: > > Since the registry doesn't control routing there's no way for them to > provide such a guarantee... > Being the facetious, jocular individual that I am, you don't think I understand this?? Since this was an attachment to the clause about getting whatever size block you wanted and getting more blocks without question.. why not dream a little bit. Anything is possible. > ...arun > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Arun Welch 5000 Arlington Centre Blvd > Lead Engineer, Internet R&D Columbus, OH 43220 > CompuServe awelch(a)compuserve.net > T..S

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NANOG Meeting
by Pam Ciesla 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Registration for the NANOG Meeting will be accepted until Friday, January 31. Full refunds will be given to anyone cancelling by January 31. After January 31, there will be a $20.00 fee. A list of attendees will be posted to the web page next week. Any questions please let me know. Thanks Pam Ciesla

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Re: tcg and cerf.net?
by Rod Nayfield 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

At 01:18 PM 1/3/97 -0500, Scott Bradner wrote: >Comm Week 23/12/96 said that Teleport Communications Group closed >a deal to buy CERFnet http://techweb.cmp.com/cw/cwi/search/ enter "cerfnet" in the search field. It should be the first result. (btw check out the length of the URL of the actualy story, you'll see why I didn't post it here) Rod

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Re: tcg and cerf.net?
by Paul Ferguson 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

At 11:07 AM 1/3/97 -0700, Brett D. Watson wrote: > i've heard something in the press about tcg buying cerfnet... >anyone heard the same or can verify that? just curious. it seems >like an odd match. > >-brett > Brett: [snip] Teleport Buys ISP CERFnet Source: Communications Week Communications Week via Individual Inc. : Teleport Communications Group, New York, has closed a deal to purchase Internet service provider CERFnet at an undisclosed price. TCG is expected to use CERFnet's resources to expand its nascent Internet services business, which it now offers in limited markets. San Diego-based CERFnet has an extensive T3 backbone connecting major markets in California and Arizona, as well as a dedicated link to New York City. The deal, approved by CERFnet's board Friday, is expected to be made public this week. Copyright 1996 CMP Media Inc. <<Communications Week -- 12-23-96, p. 8>> [12-23-96 at 16:51 EST, Copyright 1996, CMP Publications, Inc.] [snip]

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tcg and cerf.net?
by Brett D. Watson 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

i've heard something in the press about tcg buying cerfnet... anyone heard the same or can verify that? just curious. it seems like an odd match. -brett

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NANOG Registration
by Pam Ciesla 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Please note that if you were experiencing problems with registration through the web page the problem has been fixed. Thanks Pam Ciesla

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Re: Non-profit IP Registry
by fehnb＠jerseycape.net 03 Jan '97

03 Jan '97

Eric makes two very important points here but its the overall "rush" that I wonder about. This thing seems to have come up quite suddenly and appears as if it's being implemented as we speak. A program with such far reaching effects should not be taken lightly. One need only look at the state of the domain name system to realize that its what we haven't thought of that will bite us later.... >One: > How will portable/non-portable address space be effected. Does the mean >that if I have non-portable address space, I can charge customers for >address space, and if it is portable, they have to pay $2500 per /24 to >have it registered to them? That would not go over well. <G> > >Two: > If an entity has address space already and does not require more space, >do they have to pay the fee or is this going to be grandfather claused? I >know with domain names it was not that way, but that is only 50 bucks, >$2500 or more could put a lot of business off the net. > Again, this could put an unbearable financial hardship on many companies if not grandfathered... > >I guess this will make the routing table size come to a sudden and >screaching halt! Doubtful but it certainly will slow things down. But remember, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer in business as well. Robert J. Fehn Sr.,President and CEO Jersey Cape Information Systems Inc. http://www.jerseycape.net

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