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ATTENDEE LIST
by Pam Ciesla 14 May '97

14 May '97

Has been updated. If you are not on the list and should be please let me know. Thanks Pam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Pam Ciesla 313-936-0172 - phone Merit Network, Inc. 313-647-3185 - fax University of Michigan 4251 Plymouth Road Bldg. I, Suite C Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Re: Warning, CDP interaction at Mae-EAST
by Barry A. Dykes 14 May '97

14 May '97

> > int fddi ??/?? > no cdp-enable > This can be turned off globally with a 'no cdp run' command incase someone is doing this on all of their interfaces :) Barry

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URL for Zebra?
by Bradley Dunn 14 May '97

14 May '97

Hi, I was looking over the agenda for the next meeting and the Zebra Distributed Routing Software caught my eye. Does anyone know of a URL with more info about this software? I did a few searches and couldn't find anything. Yeah, I know, I should just wait for three weeks and find out in Tampa. :) pbd -- Why can't you be a non-conformist like everyone else?

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Warning, CDP interaction at Mae-EAST
by Golan Ben-Oni 14 May '97

14 May '97

WARNING: Executing show cdp neighbors detail may crash your Cisco at Mae-EAST. I noticed this earlier today while I was browsing, but believed I had some sort of strange interaction with my rev of IOS until this happened to someone else running a completely different code stream. There is apparently a device there spewing broken cdp information. The Cisco engineer working on this case hasn't heard of this problem before, but if I gather anymore useful information I'll certainly pass it along. -Golan

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Re: URL for Zebra?
by Kazuto NISHI 14 May '97

14 May '97

Zebra homepage: http://zebra.digital-magic.co.jp/ Please check out this. -- Internet Initiative Japan Inc. Network Engineering Div. Kazuto NISHI <kazuto-n(a)iij.ad.jp> > Hi, > > I was looking over the agenda for the next meeting and the Zebra > Distributed Routing Software caught my eye. Does anyone know of a URL with > more info about this software? I did a few searches and couldn't find > anything. > > Yeah, I know, I should just wait for three weeks and find out in Tampa. :) > > pbd > -- > Why can't you be a non-conformist like everyone else? > >

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Lost domain names
by Matthew Hamblen 14 May '97

14 May '97

To Whom It May Concern: Please help me by e-mailing or calling me with names of parties that have lost domain names that the parties felt were rightfully theirs. I have heard of some examples of parties who had paid receipts from Network Solutions in Herndon, Va., for multiple years rights to a domain name, but suddenly lost the name. I am trying tosee how widespread this problem is. I can be contacted by phone at 508-820-8567 or at matt_hamblen(a)cw.com. I am a reporter for Computerworld and I am considering writing a story for publication on this subject. I will respec the privacy of those who contact me, but I'm also obviously interested in finding people to speak for the record, giving their names and company names. Sincerely, Matt Hamblen

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by matt＠cw.com 14 May '97

14 May '97

To Whom It May Concern: Subject: Lost domain names From: Matt Hamblen/Computerworld Hello: I'm a staff writer for Computerworld, the trade weekly based in Framingham, Mass. I am seeking, as soon as possible, a list of those companies or organizations or individuals who have proof of payment for a domain name granted by Network Solutions of Herndon, Va., but who lost the right to the name for whatever reason. I've heard of a couple of examples of people paying for a name, only to lost it because of a clerical error at NSI. The purpose of this request is to judge if there are more than a few affected by the this problem for a story I am considering writing to be published in Computerworld. I can accept anonymous comments, but obviously I'm interested also in talking on the record by telephone to those parties affected. I may be seeking further proof of the problem as well, although I will respect the privacy of anybody requesting it (but again: without some names and details, I don't have a story). You can call me at 508-820-8567 and leave a message or e-mail me at matt_hamblen(a)cw.com. Thanks, Matt Hamblen, staff writer

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Re: UUNET Press Release on Peering
by Bill Unsworth 14 May '97

14 May '97

At 09:51 AM 14-05-97 +0930, you wrote: > If Europeans and Asians and Austrialians made strong > efforts to keep the amount of traffic being sucked towards > them from the U.S. with things like web caching > hierarchies (haha, enjoy an international aspect to > copyright legislation battles) and mirroring, particularly > when this can be done without the total cooperation of end > users, then they would be under less pressure to acquire > more trans-Oceanic capacity from the U.S. > >We do make large use of caching (including forcing our dialin users to >use it) and while it helps a lot it doesn't stop us still sucking down >a lot of traffic from the US (bear in mind that Europe is reachable >only via the US anyway). > >Mark. > > Since we decided to put a router in Palo Alto (at the end of a leased line to London) we have had interest from Australian ISPs in getting transit to London. So although that is "via" the US it only involves one hop. Also Asian ISPs have been looking at connecting directly to Europe rather than having to transit the US backbones to get there. Bill U-NET Ltd "X2 AND K56Flex - soon" mailto:bill@u-net.net http://www.u-net.net/ Tel 01925 484444 Fax 01925 484466

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Your liability
by The Dawn Patrol 14 May '97

14 May '97

Geoff White, We have watched with some amusement the antics of your friend Robert, but we can long longer sit back passively and just watch as he continues to cause others harm and grief. In addition to his many other transgressions, he is now threatening people with hack attacks on their systems and with physical harm. This, and all of his many other crimes must end immediately. We are in now in the process of insuring that Robert's web presence will be revoked in all of the places he has infected with it. For the moment, we have decided to allow him to keep his E-mail accounts but we will quickly arrange for those also to be revoked if he insists on continuing to cause harm and annoyance to others on the net. More importantly however, we will henceforth be holding you and your v-site.net site responsible for and further crimes that he commits online against the people he thinks are his enemies. If there are any security-related incidents at any of the sites run by any of these people, we will find out about it, and you will then be forced to deal with similar unfortunate events at your own site. If necessary, we will also and likewise respond to any hacking activities by Robert with additional measures against vcinternet. We are certain that you have a significant investment in hardware and software at your site that you would not like to have placed in jeopardy, so it is in your interest now to contact your friend Robert and have him cease his threats and attacks on people on the Internet. We suggest that you use all means of persuasion at your disposal to do this, and that you do it immediately. No further warnings will be sent to you regarding this matter. The Dawn Patrol ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now Robert did have a Web account here months ago, he was canned for misusing my sendmail daemon with his fameous Java applet that let's you spam the net by surfing for <mailto> tags. He is long gone but now I have to deal with clueless vigilanties who are threatening to hack my systems because of someone long gone, hey is this the french revolution or what? In any event if it get to this I will toast anybody who trys to f*ck with my systems. geoffw

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Re: UUNET Press Release on Peering
by smd＠clock.org 14 May '97

14 May '97

Peter Galbavy <peter(a)wonderland.org> writes: > Scenario (a) - Demon Internet install a trans-US DS3 backbone, all centred > around New York, since this is where all our traffic flows throw. We have > no US customers, so the network is wasted, and the DS3's get used as > unidirectional pipes to the various NAPs. > Anyone wanna share this network ? In fact branching out in to the U.S. is probably an excellent idea for non-U.S. networks, particularly those with in Asia and Europe with adequate money to invest, ready access to trans-oceanic bandwidth, and subsidiaries or potential partners in the U.S. to handle operational and establishment issues. This is, after all, apparently what BT is doing, and they don't appear to be the only ones. Given the intuitive belief that market share is important to networks who want to be non-local in scope, and the geography of Europe compared to that of the U.S., particularly with the price of unlit or semilit fibre runs about to drop through the floor in some places, this makes perfect sense. Of course, as you half-indicate, this is very expensive for smaller organizations, however it often appears that consortia of smaller regional organizations remain fairly stable in Europe. A hierarchical approach given Europe's geography has some obvious distinct advantages over a centralized "global domination" approach, provided it can remain nimble and flexible enough to satisfy its components, offer good service and continue growing. > Guess which one I like ? But I will settle for (c). (Oh (d) for those who > didn't guess). If Europeans and Asians and Austrialians made strong efforts to keep the amount of traffic being sucked towards them from the U.S. with things like web caching hierarchies (haha, enjoy an international aspect to copyright legislation battles) and mirroring, particularly when this can be done without the total cooperation of end users, then they would be under less pressure to acquire more trans-Oceanic capacity from the U.S. Because culturally this would be much more difficult to accomplish in the U.S., Americans may well start clamouring for more bandwidth to satisfy them. Happy non-Americans, unhappy Americans, cash for increased bandwidth flows from American pockets. Alternatively, this would be great leverage for the kind of scheme you described as (a). Sean.

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