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Re: How to document threats from pro or anti spam terrorists?
by Sean Finn 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

At 12:57 PM 2/23/98 -0500, Barry Shein wrote: > > There really are two terrorist groups here. Spammers and > > nti-Spammers. > >That's like saying people defending their properties are as bad as >people they're defending against, that's moral confusion. When an 'anti-spammer' compromises net access for a group of people as a response to percieved "net abuse" on the part of a single member of that group, that's a denial of service. The phrase 'using violence to prevent violence' comes to mind. (I wouldn't say that my government uses 'moral confusion' to justify it's practices, but ... ;) ------ This *is* an important, and troubling subject ... ... but it's my intuition that nanog might not be the place for this particular debate. (suggestions for a more appropriate forum?) cheers -- Sean

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Problems reaching Texas Higher Education (the.net)
by Larry Vaden 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Can anyone else confirm difficulty reaching hosts on the.net, e.g., mims.utdallas.edu. Our customer reports a several day outage. Thanks, Larry

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Re: Bellovin sez...
by Sean Donelan 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

>Forgive my directness, but there was no _new_ data at all >in what the referenced URL quoted Steve/Matt as saying. I'll admit I asked Steve & Matt a pretty softball question, but that wasn't really the point. My question was really about my fear that Internet outages aren't news anymore. Have outages really become so common place that people now accept them as the normal condition of the net? There is a lack of any new data. In general providers seem to be releasing less and less information why outages occur. Are natural disasters really the major cause of outages, or is pilot error a bigger factor than providers care to admit? Fiber cuts get repaired a lot faster than dumb management decisions. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Hello? Exodus?
by Adam Rothschild 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Another desparate cry for help... Could some high-ranking person from Exodus please drop me a note (privately)? I have an issue (seemingly simlpe) that has gone on for 4 days without resolution, despite numerous calls and e-mails to your support staff, and numerous broken promises that followed. My deepest appologies for contributing to the static of this list. Unfortunately, I see no viable alternatives. Thanks, Adam

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HOly jesus.
by Alex Rubenstein 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

I hate writing emails like this (because I hate seeing them). But. I am looking for a *clueful* individual in the Primenet/GlobalCenter NOC to look at a de-aggregation issue. Primenet said, "Call GlobalCenter." GlobalCetner said, "Call Primenet." Alex started banging head into desk.

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provisioning an overseas circuit
by Sanjay Dani 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

We have a need for a 128k circuit between the PAIX (SF Bay area) and a US-friendly persian gulf country for a customer application. Sending email to various global telco providers' standard sales aliases and talking to the local bell has been a non-starter so far. I am sure some of you have interesting stories, useful contacts and advise for navigating through what looks like a lengthy and complicated process. I will appreciate your private replies. Thanks in advance. I will be happy to summarize replies if there is interest. I know this is only semi applicable to this list. Any recommendations on network operators' mailing lists outside of the North American continent that one could subscribe to for more regional issues? Regards, Sanjay. --------------------------------------------------------------- Web Professionals, Inc. Direct: +1 408-863-4850 20111 Stevens Creek Blvd, Suite 145 Biz/NOC: +1 408-863-4848 Cupertino CA 95014 USA http://web.professionals.com --------------------------------------------------------------- -=- Your Outsourcing Partner for Website and Server Hosting -=-

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Internic PGP Auth busted
by Greg Ketell 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Apparently their keyserver is broken. They don't have an ETA for uptime. If you use PGP authentication: Be warned. GK

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Cisco Password recovery-HELP!
by Adam Rothschild 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hi. I'm trying to recover the enable pw on a 2501 with IOS 10.2 (bootstrap: 5.2(5) release) and I'm failing miserably. I boot the system up, and send it a break (i'm minicom; ctrl + 6 and ctrl + ^ work as a break on a cisco for me), yet it boots normally, rather than bringing me the ">" prompt. If someone could pleaes contact me ASAP (private e-mail is best) I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks, Adam

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SMTP spoofing ?
by John R Levine 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Are there any routers currently available that can do port 25 spoofing for dialup users? That is, when the user attempts to connect to port 25 anywhere, he in fact connects to port 25 on your own SMTP server instead. In case it's not obvious, it's for spam management. Regards, John Levine, johnl(a)iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Sewer Commissioner Finger for PGP key, f'print = 3A 5B D0 3F D9 A0 6A A4 2D AC 1E 9E A6 36 A3 47

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NSI Bulletin 098-004 | Zone releases
by David H. Holtzman 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Beginning this weekend, Network Solutions will update and release zone files seven days per week instead of only on Monday thru Friday. This applies to .com, .org, .net, .edu and the root zone when appropriate. This will result in a more timely propagation of desired changes, additions and deletions. _____________________________________ David H. Holtzman (dholtz(a)internic.net) Sr Vice President of Engineering Network Solutions, Inc.

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