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Re: BBN Peering issues
by Sean M. Doran 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

Thanks to Dave Rand for trying to reduce the amount of traffic that this thread might otherwise generate. Please, direct all public comments on GTE's (or anyone else's) peering *policies* to com-priv. Sean.

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Re: Today's Outage
by Sean Donelan 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

>> Well, today's outage is a small one. Southwestern Bell lost power >> to their central office in Ladue, Missouri (just outside of St. Louis). >> This affects all local telephone service in Ladue and several >> surrounding communities. No big deal, except our Network Operations >> Center happens to receive its local dial tone from the Ladue central > >No big deal for yourselves maybe, but we had several hundred ISDN >customers hammer or NOC at that time, since all BRI's in SE MO are served >out of that CO. The preliminary report says 66,000 phone customers lost phone service for about two hours. The CO outage also affected 9-1-1, hospital and other emergency services for 5 cities and surrounding areas. I'm assuming this is only counting POTS service because we saw some ISDN and data circuits out-of-service for 10-12 hours. Unfortunately due to Southwestern Bell corporate policies, I can't conduct the usual 'due diligence' I do with our CLEC providers. Finally around 5am, Southwestern Bell started accepting trouble tickets again. They wouldn't accept them earlier until their techs gave the 'all clear.' >I did talk to someone about the problem, but unfortunatly, SWBT has moved >their NOC to KC and they were clueless to the problem, and their battery >ran dry, and the generator failed to start. Cluelessness is not an attribute restricted to ISPs. Southwestern Bell's official spokesperson was quoted: "Cordless phones won't work during power outages because they need electricity to operate. As a safety precaution, he recommended keeping a spare corded phone." Oops, I think he picked up the wrong script. He needed the Central office failure script, not the Cordless phone failure script. When I was growing up, my next door neighbor was the president of Southwestern Bell Telephone and we got phone service out of this same Central Office. I guess things have declined a bit since the current president moved the corporate offices to San Antonio, Texas. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Re: He's baaaaaaack...
by J.D. Falk 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

Honestly, even as an abuse guy, I really can't see what Sanford Wallace's current activities have to do with anything. He is no longer spamming. He is not abusing the net in any new and interesting (or even old and boring) manner. Why should we even care that he's alive? -- J.D. Falk <jdfalk(a)cp.net> http://support.cp.net/AUP/ Special Agent In Charge (Abuse Issues) Critical Path, Inc.

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How much will the cpu load increase when I apply CAR at C7513?
by Woohyun Chang 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

some WAN interfaces R1 R2 some WAN interfaces -----------C7513 C7513------------ | | |fe |fe ======switch======= R2: C7513 RSP2 no VIP card cpu load: 18% FastEthernet: outbound: 6Mbps inbound: 22Mbps Cisco IOS 11.1.18CC RED is not available because 11.1.18CC does not provide RED without VIP card. The input queue at the FastEthernet of R2 is insufficent because there are many inbound packet more than outbound packet into some WAN interfaces at R2. Therefore, packet drops happens at Fastethernet of R2. I tried to increase the input queue of the FastEthernet of R2, and I found that that is useless. So I'll try to apply CAR(committed access rate). I have two questions. 1. If I apply CAR at FastEthernet of R2 for inbound traffic, how much will cpu load of R2 increase? I hope that the cpu load does not increase very high. The condition for the classification of IP traffic will be very simple. 2. Is it possible that my work applying CAR will fix the packet drops at FastEthernet? Will my work make queue available faster than before? Regards, /woohyun chang whchang(a)bora.net BORANet Services DACOM Corporation Seoul, Korea TEL+82-2-220-5209

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Today's Outage
by Sean Donelan 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

Well, today's outage is a small one. Southwestern Bell lost power to their central office in Ladue, Missouri (just outside of St. Louis). This affects all local telephone service in Ladue and several surrounding communities. No big deal, except our Network Operations Center happens to receive its local dial tone from the Ladue central office. I guess that's one reason we have backup operations staff in Monterey California. Competition is also nice. We have a couple of other facility based carriers built into our building. Besides local dial tone, all the Internet services failed over to other carriers without incident. It did take a few minutes as people tried to isolate which phone numbers worked (e.g. long distance) but not other phone numbers (e.g. local, outbound 1-800, 9-1-1, etc). Time on hold to reach a human at Southwestern Bell repair service about 20 minutes. How many NOCs have contingency plans for reaching their local phone company when their local phone service is not working. I reallly, really, really hate companies which have only 1-800 numbers for their customer service centers. Any alternative carriers care to schedule an appointment for a presentation on your facilities based alternate local service offerings? People just reselling unbundled network elements from Southwestern Bell are in the same boat as SWBT. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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product lit spams
by Christian Kuhtz 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

Hello: I really do appreciate the helpful submissions of product literature. *BUT*, unless I explicitly request it (and I'm sure this isn't just true for me) I'd rather you not send me unsolicited product lit attachments. Size is one reason, and many of us are in a constant roaming/virtual office mode and do have a problem when we have to "quickly" POP megabyte after megabyte. Again, I am not saying that I don't want to hear from you guys, just a little bit more moderation would be good and considerate behavior as good netizens would be nice. Thank you. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated. Cheers, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz, BellSouth Corp., Sr. Network Architect <ck(a)bellsouth.net> 1100 Ashwood Parkway, Atlanta, GA 30338 <ck(a)gnu.org> "Turnaucka's Law: The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord." -- /usr/games/fortune

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He's baaaaaaack...
by Jamie Rishaw 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

He's baaaaack... (FYI, I just got an autoresponder to learn more about his shady business. Pblt.) ----- Forwarded message from sanfordwallace(a)sanfordwallace.com ----- >From sanfordwallace(a)sanfordwallace.com Tue Aug 11 12:06:48 1998 From: sanfordwallace(a)sanfordwallace.com Message-Id: <199808111606.MAA04932(a)arpa.com> Subject: from Sanford Wallace to former customer Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:34:23 Hello there. This is Sanford Wallace, former president of Cyber Promotions. I am writing this email to you because you were the administrator of at least one cyberpromo (answerme) autoresponder. Unfortunately, cyberpromo went out of business last October. I had tried to do everything possible to keep the "empire" alive, but to no avail. I am *very* sorry for the big cyberpromo mess. It was never my intention to hurt or screw anyone. Hopefully, I will be able to fix many of my mistakes from the past. Well, I, Sanford Wallace, am on a comeback! But, NOT in the spam business! I have recently put up a popular web site, http://www.sanfordwallace.com The anti-spammers have been leaving it alone, because I have made a strong commitment to never spam again. (I hope that you dont see *this* email as a spam. I have an existing relationship will all of the people on this "list." And Im not selling anything, anyway.) But I do plan to offer many free services to small businesses, which will encourage people to advertise on the Internet - WITHOUT SPAMMING! This will be one way of paying back former customers AND netizens! I already have many different services in the works. You should visit my website often to keep tabs on the latest developments. In addition, I have created an extremely popular message board, where the anti-spammers and spammers fight it out :) http://www.sanfordwallace.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html I would be very happy if you would post in that message board. I want people to see your opinion. On a final note, please feel free to reply to this message. I will read every email, and I plan to personally respond to each and every message. Thanks! And, may you have GREAT success with your business! P.S. If you have any suggestions about anything, please write me back. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! ()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<> Sanford Wallace ----> Anti-Spamford ----> DJ Spammy? Participate in: "Sanford's Board" http://www.sanfordwallace.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html ()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<>()<> ----- End of forwarded message from sanfordwallace(a)sanfordwallace.com ----- -- jamesgarychristopherrishaw/jamie/gavroche <jamie(a)rishaw.com> || <jamie(a)arpa.com> thirty thousand feet above the earth..youre a beautiful thing.. the water on stone/the water on concrete/the water on sand/the water on fire/ smoke/the wind/the salt/the bride boat coming/dave in the water/old man

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a slight modification to ACL 112
by bmanning＠ISI.EDU 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

For those of you with access lists, I've made this small modification to the list that I originally got via Andrew Partan. You may wish to consider the change in respect to your own acls. In cisco format: access-list 112 deny ip host 0.0.0.0 any ! Loopback access-list 112 deny ip 127.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 255.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 ! RFC 1918 space access-list 112 deny ip 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 255.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 access-list 112 deny ip 172.16.0.0 0.15.255.255 255.240.0.0 0.15.255.255 access-list 112 deny ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255 ! Test Network access-list 112 deny ip 192.0.2.0 0.0.0.255 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.255 ! IPv4 LinkLocal access-list 112 deny ip 169.254.0.0 0.0.255.255 255.255.0.0 0.0.255.255 --bill

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NANOG Channel Archives and Editorializing
by Eric Germann 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

Folks, I've received periodic requests from individuals who feel somehow slighted by posts contained in the NANOG archives. As you may or may not know, we host a MHonArc'd version of the list as a Searchable archive of web pages and an IE/NEtCaster Channel. A request came in today to remove a post that listed a number of hosts open for relaying. The individual asked me to remove the message so as to minimize the damage it causes the owners of the listed relays, including himself. Since these are generated from the flat archives at Merit, I'm loath to start editorializing. What do folks think? Should we edit the archives to remove "dangerous" information, or let them stand on their merits (no pun intended) and let the roaches scatter in the light? Respond privately unless you absolutely feel a need to start a discussion on it. I'll post the decision I come to on the list. Eric ========================================================================== Eric Germann CCTec ekgermann(a)cctec.com Van Wert, OH 45891 http://www.cctec.com Ph: 419 968 2640 Fax: 419 968 2641 Network Design, Connectivity & System Integration Services A Microsoft Solution Provider

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10 Aug '98

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