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RE: Gigarouter
by Greg Mirsky 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

My apologies to those offended by my note. I wouldn't argue about terminology so much. If GRF and GSR get into Gigarouter category - fine with me and my sincere congrats to all. What I've ment was that, as you all know, there are M40 out there and it's only the beginning of new and exciting era. And it wasn't 'vendor's shpil'. Again, sorry and good luck in pumping these Gigabytes! Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:hcb@clark.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 11:05 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: Gigarouter > > Greg Mirsky observed, > > >Rogerio, > >these are not REAL gigarouters. Real once yet to come ;). Stay tuned > > > > Greg > > > > Or is it that the current ones are gigarouters, but the next > generation > will be terable? >

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Gigarouter performance
by Rogerio Alvarez - DRS23 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

I know that these boxes work well, theorically, but I really want to know if there is any ISP using them on their core, and how many traffic it�s supporting . Another issue is, if I have 30 ATM PVC�s over an OC-12 interface, how well this box will treat each one, it will be possible to provide QoS for these PVC�s inside the box without impact the others services. Rogerio

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Re: Gigarouter
by David Greer 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

Rogerio, I haven't the need for that kind of hardware so I haven't checked into it, so forgive me if this is a stupid question with a well known answer. But, why are these not true giga class routers? David A. Greer Senior Telecomm Analyst General Nutrition Companies, Inc. 300 Sixth Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15222 (412) 338 - 2539 (V) (412) 402 - 7000 (F) -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mirsky <gmirsky(a)nexabit.com> To: Rogerio Alvarez - DRS23 <rogerio(a)embratel.net.br>; nanog(a)merit.edu <nanog(a)merit.edu> Cc: eng-l(a)embratel.net.br <eng-l(a)embratel.net.br> Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 10:57 AM Subject: RE: Gigarouter >Rogerio, >these are not REAL gigarouters. Real once yet to come ;). Stay tuned > > Greg > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rogerio Alvarez - DRS23 [SMTP:rogerio@embratel.net.br] >> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 9:36 AM >> To: nanog(a)merit.edu >> Cc: eng-l(a)embratel.net.br >> Subject: Gigarouter >> >> Hi. >> >> Anyone there has any information (experience) about Gigarouters like >> GRF1600 (Ascend) or >> GSR12000 (Cisco). >> >> I want to know performance, availability, scalability and limitations >> data in "real world", >> I mean in real condition of internet traffic. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Rogerio

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Re: IP address space management
by Douglas S. Ring 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

Brandon, We use Accugraph to manage our single ip assignments, and subnet assignments. The product works very well for assigning CIDR subnets for our downstream customers. Might want to check them out.. they're located out of El Paso, TX .. or www.accugraph.com. The product is called IPAM or ASM, not sure which name they're using lately. -Douglas Ring Manager Internet Network Engineering SBC Internet Services At 11:52 PM 10/14/98 -0400, Brandon Ross wrote: >We are in need of a software package to manage our IP space. We've looked at >several products on the market but haven't found anything that really suits an >ISP's needs very well. Does anyone know of anything on the market that works >well? It should understand CIDR and be hierarchical. Most products we've seen >have been aimed more at the Enterprise market and include a lot of things we >don't need like interfaces to DNS and DHCP. Any suggestions? >-- >Brandon Ross Network Engineering 404-815-0770 800-719-4664 >Director, Network Engineering, MindSpring Ent., Inc. info(a)mindspring.com > ICQ: 2269442 > >Stop Smurf attacks! Configure your router interfaces to block directed >broadcasts. See http://www.quadrunner.com/~chuegen/smurf.cgi for details. > >

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AS map
by Philippe Strauss 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

Hi there, Is there any project of building a graphical AS map from BGP full route table snapshot? I remember seeing something like that on the web, but i can't find anything now that I need it :-) I also remember comment saying that sorting out the whole mess of BGP peers took weeks on a sparcstation5.. Anyone with an URL?? TIA, Cheers. -- Philippe Strauss, ingenieur systeme/reseau, Urbanet SA philippe.strauss(a)urbanet.ch tel +41 21 623 30 20 --

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Re: BGP as an IGP (Was Re: IGPs in use)
by Sean M. Doran 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

Chrisy Luke wrote: | Paul G. Donner wrote (on Oct 13): | > If BGP rides on TCP, how are the TCP sessions built if BGP itself is used | > as the IGP? | | Same way as it does when you take next-hops from any other IGP. The fact | that one already has a route to ones' directly attached networks. In other words, the interior routing protocol is either static or a combination of statically configured routes and the likes of ARP/ES-IS/other neighbour discovery protocols. The key point is that, in a router talking iBGP, the route to the NEXT_HOP received by an iBGP neighbour *MUST* be known through means other than BGP. This is not to say that the route need be dynamic -- a static default route would do just fine. Sean.

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Need help with registering Maintainer info with CW.NET
by miguel a.l. paraz 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

Hi, This maybe off-topic here but I hope someone can help. I need to get BGP up and running with Cable & Wireless (ex-MCI) really soon. But, my submission for the Maintainer Object to the Routing Registry, which is manually approved, isn't being acknowledged. Without this I can't register my routes. I've e-mailed the supposed account rep for the Philippines (where I am), but I've received no response either. Anyone from Cable & Wireless here? Thanks, -- Miguel A.L. Paraz +63-2-750-2288 CTO, IPhil Communications www.iphil.net

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Updated exchange point cross-matrix
by Sean Donelan 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

I have updated my exchange point cross-matrix. I didn't bother to update the ASN/name index because I thought it would be faster just to let you send in corrections. I have no idea which ASN or name some people are going to use pre/post merger. http://dranet.dra.com/exchangematrix.html -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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RE: Maybe I'm misreading this but...
by Martin, Christian 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

Also note that these IPs may sit on interfacs accompanied by 'routable' IPs, such as the 'secondary' keyword is used in Cisco-Speak (maybe others as well, I dunno). I've seen cases where customer's use RFC 1918 addreses as the primary and their real addresses as secondaries, so as to make it difficult to attack the router. TTL exceeded messages then get returned with the primary IP.... -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Wolfe [mailto:tim@clipper.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 7:16 PM > To: Dean Anderson > Cc: Barry Shein; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Maybe I'm misreading this but... > > > On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Dean Anderson wrote: > > > The 172.16 to 172.31 block is reserved in RFC1918 for > private internets. > > > > The last address 209.149.111.17 belongs to a bellsouth > block. It's a safe > > bet that libidomax.com is a bellsouth customer, or a customer of a > > bellsouth customer. Probably bellsouth and alternet are > peering and using > > a private network between themselves. > > > > --Dean > > Or Bellsouth is using Alter.Net for their transit provider > just as US West > is in the Pacific NW... > > Tim > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Timothy M. Wolfe | Why surf when you can Sail? > tim(a)clipper.net | Join Oregon's Premier > Sr. Network Engineer | Wireless Internet Provider! > ClipperNet Corporation | http://www.clipper.net/ > ---------------------------------------------------- > >

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Re: MAE NY?
by Sean Donelan 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

SEAN(a)dra.COM (Sean Donelan) writes: >Of course, WCOM wins for having the hottest POPs. Sorry to followup on my own posting. I should mention that after peaking at 37C (98F) in June, WorldCom has finally gotten their Washington DC co-locate down to a comfortable 19C (66F). So WCOM no longer has the hottest POPs (within my measurement domain). This message has been brought to you by the Absence of Malice Lawyer Avoidance System (AMLAS). -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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