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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

This is an auto-generated mail on Fri Jan 14 12:00:00 PST 2000 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to xara.net for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to me. Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html for a daily update of this report. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 14Jan00 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 070100 69327 080100 69344 090100 69247 100100 69357 110100 69510 120100 69669 130100 69616 140100 69862 Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr.plot.html for a plot of the table history. Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 4739 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 2019 (480 cidr, 1539 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 324 announced by AS6172 Largest number of classful routes: 953 announced by AS701 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 14Jan00 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS9269 134 21 113 84.3% Hong Kong CTI AS2609 124 18 106 85.5% EUnet-TN AS7545 153 60 93 60.8% TPG Internet Pty Ltd AS1653 129 38 91 70.5% SUNET Swedish University Network AS6429 194 117 77 39.7% RDC-INTERNET AS7496 111 36 75 67.6% Power Up AS3749 135 61 74 54.8% TECNET AS4200 171 105 66 38.6% AGIS (Apex Global Information Ser AS9304 82 21 61 74.4% Hutchcity AS4151 107 56 51 47.7% USDA Internet Access Network AS684 92 46 46 50.0% Manitoba Regional Network Backbon AS4755 113 73 40 35.4% Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. India AS7568 54 16 38 70.4% C.S. Communications Co., Ltd. AS6528 46 8 38 82.6% WORLD-LYNX AS7029 78 41 37 47.4% ALLTELNET AS7390 50 14 36 72.0% NLSLAN AS6172 149 113 36 24.2% HOME-NET-1 AS1727 113 77 36 31.9% MRMS-WEST AS3549 147 112 35 23.8% Frontier GlobalCenter AS11127 117 82 35 29.9% UNKNOWN AS8013 124 91 33 26.6% PSINET-CA AS3737 96 63 33 34.4% PenTeleData Inc. (ASN-PTD) AS8390 42 10 32 76.2% Global One Communications and Inf AS549 192 160 32 16.7% ONet Backbone AS7745 40 9 31 77.5% BIGSKY-AS AS6629 62 31 31 50.0% NOAA-AS AS6607 33 2 31 93.9% HOMENET AS6458 32 1 31 96.9% EMPRESSA GUATEMALTECA DE TELEC AS4307 32 1 31 96.9% SVINET-1 AS12235 32 1 31 96.9% UNKNOWN For the rest of the previous weeks gain information please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html 2) Weekly Delta Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report 3) Interesting aggregates Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report

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Shock news - NANOG likely to carry less operational content
by Alex Bligh 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

I *believe* (really hope) this SPAM impersonating a NANOG poster replying to a thread (traceroute doesn't go through pacrim.net) Op content: If so, be prepared for all sorts of being accused of sending all sorts of other exciting messages about lesbians, cookie recipes etc. etc. Alternative explanation: Kai your machine has a really nasty worm virus Alex Bligh GX Networks (formerly Xara Networks) Delivery-date: Fri Jan 14 07:37:50 2000 Return-path: <kai(a)pac-rim.net> Envelope-to: amb(a)sapphire.noc.gxn.net Delivery-date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:37:50 +0000 Received: from brimstone.global.net.uk ([194.126.80.70] helo=brimstone.noc.gxn.net) by sapphire.noc.gxn.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #2) id 1291Is-0000Fa-00 for amb(a)sapphire.noc.gxn.net; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:37:50 +0000 Received: from [168.212.244.134] (helo=mail.gxn.net) by brimstone.noc.gxn.net with smtp (Exim 3.02 #3) id 1291Gi-0004Sb-00 for amb(a)gxn.net; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:35:36 +0000 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01AF0E92.A4E9CDO0" Message-id: <E1291Gi-0004Sb-00(a)brimstone.noc.gxn.net> From: Kai Schlichting <kai(a)pac-rim.net> To: amb(a)gxn.net Subject: Re: Eeek - .NU Domains using Ö, Ä, Å, Ü, Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:35:36 +0000 1. There are alternative views of the following: (Invoke menu with right button.) View HTML contents with Mosaic 2. Lesbians.exe ---->8--------->8-------->8--------->8-------->8--------->8-------->8-------

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Re: Shock news - NANOG likely to carry less operational content
by Sean Donelan 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

On Fri, 14 January 2000, William Allen Simpson wrote: > They are using the operational list persons as targets! Shall the > operational folks get together and find them? Bah Humbug, they can't get together to solve operational problems, why get together to solve none operational problems.

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Not really operational, but interesting: Gates steps down (kinda)
by I Am Not An Isp 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

http://www.iwon.com/home/money/money_article/0,2090,200|business|01-14-2000: :00:06|reuters,00.html TTFN, patrick -- I Am Not An Isp - www.ianai.net ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs, <http://www.ispf.com> "Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle (OhMyGod - Watch out 'Net, I got enable again! ;-)

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Cleveland outage (Warning: operational content)
by Steve Sobol 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

http://www.cleveland.com/news/sreports/flood A 36" pipe burst yesterday afternoon, releasing over 25 gallons of water into an area covering several city blocks. As luck would have it, my office building (the Superior Building) sits right in front of the place where the pipe burst. I was down there last night and again tonight, and it's a *mess*. East 9th Street, downtown Cleveland's main north-south thoroughfare, remains closed between St. Clair and Superior avenues. There was a huge sinkhole last night... the entire financial district looked like a war zone, and it looked like someone dropped a bomb on 9th Street. At 9th and Rockwell, several services are completely down. Ameritech has fiber in this area, as does MCI Worldcom. MCI Worldcom and CLEC NextLink Ohio both have facilities in the Superior Building. NextLink's Cleveland CO, in fact, is on the second floor. They seem to have weathered the crisis pretty well. I don't know about Worldcom. Quite frankly, I don't do business with them, and I'm not sure whether they provide dialtone, data services or some other services out of the Superior Building, as I've not had the opportunity to talk to anyone up there. Ameritech Voice Mail was broken earlier. It's still not quite working correctly. I just verified this by dialing my home phone number. Since I'm dialing FROM my home phone line, I should get my custom greeting immediately, because the line's busy. Instead, I have to wait four rings and then I get the default message. WRT ISP's: The biggest ISP in the Superior Building is NACS.NET (my upstream). Multiverse, another largish local ISP, is here too, but their dialups and servers are colocated at Verio. Verio, along with a slew of other ISP's, has offices at Playhouse Square that were not affected by the flooding. Obviously, I'm also located in the SB, and I know of one other small service provider that runs his servers and dialups out of the same building (the office next to me, in fact). I don't know about him, but NACS appears to be doing fine. They're running off several generators. I brought my two servers downstairs and hooked them up to their generators, so I'm back up too. It looks like the impact on connectivity should be pretty minimal. Power, however, isn't expected to go back on before the end of the day tomorrow. Also, they had to cut a gas line to get down to the water main. (RELAX... they turned off the gas first! NO BACKHOES, I repeat, NO BACKHOES were involved in this incident!) One of the talking heads on the eleven o'clock news said the water main could be fixed as early as 1AM EST (forty-five minutes from now). -- North Shore Technologies http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net 888.480.4NET Steve Sobol, President, Chief Website Architect and Janitor sjsobol(a)NorthShoreTechnologies.net My opinions DO, in fact, represent the official opinions of North Shore Technologies Corporation, since I own the company. Thanks for asking.

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Cleveland outage: correction
by Steve Sobol 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

That would be 25 million gallons. Not 25 gallons. -- North Shore Technologies http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net 888.480.4NET Steve Sobol, President, Chief Website Architect and Janitor sjsobol(a)NorthShoreTechnologies.net My opinions DO, in fact, represent the official opinions of North Shore Technologies Corporation, since I own the company. Thanks for asking.

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Re: Cleveland outage (Warning: operational content)
by Steve Sobol 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

Um, yes, that would be 25 *million* gallons. Typos suck. :) Todd Stroup wrote: > > Not to be a smart ass or anything but I hope it was ALOT more than 25 > gallons. :) > > T..S > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Steve Sobol wrote: > > > > > http://www.cleveland.com/news/sreports/flood > > > > A 36" pipe burst yesterday afternoon, releasing over 25 gallons of > > water into an area covering several city blocks. > > > > As luck would have it, my office building (the Superior Building) > > sits right in front of the place where the pipe burst. I was down > > there last night and again tonight, and it's a *mess*. > > > > East 9th Street, downtown Cleveland's main north-south thoroughfare, > > remains closed between St. Clair and Superior avenues. There was a > > huge sinkhole last night... the entire financial district looked > > like a war zone, and it looked like someone dropped a bomb on 9th > > Street. > > > > At 9th and Rockwell, several services are completely down. Ameritech > > has fiber in this area, as does MCI Worldcom. MCI Worldcom and CLEC > > NextLink Ohio both have facilities in the Superior Building. NextLink's > > Cleveland CO, in fact, is on the second floor. They seem to have > > weathered the crisis pretty well. I don't know about Worldcom. Quite > > frankly, I don't do business with them, and I'm not sure whether > > they provide dialtone, data services or some other services out of > > the Superior Building, as I've not had the opportunity to talk to > > anyone up there. > > > > Ameritech Voice Mail was broken earlier. It's still not quite working > > correctly. I just verified this by dialing my home phone number. Since > > I'm dialing FROM my home phone line, I should get my custom greeting > > immediately, because the line's busy. Instead, I have to wait four > > rings and then I get the default message. > > > > WRT ISP's: The biggest ISP in the Superior Building is NACS.NET (my > > upstream). Multiverse, another largish local ISP, is here too, but > > their dialups and servers are colocated at Verio. Verio, along with > > a slew of other ISP's, has offices at Playhouse Square that were not > > affected by the flooding. > > > > Obviously, I'm also located in the SB, and I know of one other small > > service provider that runs his servers and dialups out of the same > > building (the office next to me, in fact). I don't know about him, > > but NACS appears to be doing fine. They're running off several > > generators. I brought my two servers downstairs and hooked them up > > to their generators, so I'm back up too. > > > > It looks like the impact on connectivity should be pretty minimal. > > > > Power, however, isn't expected to go back on before the end of the day > > tomorrow. Also, they had to cut a gas line to get down to the water > > main. (RELAX... they turned off the gas first! NO BACKHOES, I repeat, > > NO BACKHOES were involved in this incident!) > > > > One of the talking heads on the eleven o'clock news said the water > > main could be fixed as early as 1AM EST (forty-five minutes from now). > > > > -- > > North Shore Technologies http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net > > 888.480.4NET > > Steve Sobol, President, Chief Website Architect and Janitor > > sjsobol(a)NorthShoreTechnologies.net > > My opinions DO, in fact, represent the official opinions of North > > Shore Technologies Corporation, since I own the company. Thanks for > > asking. > > -- North Shore Technologies http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net 888.480.4NET Steve Sobol, President, Chief Website Architect and Janitor sjsobol(a)NorthShoreTechnologies.net My opinions DO, in fact, represent the official opinions of North Shore Technologies Corporation, since I own the company. Thanks for asking.

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Oh yeah. Pictures.
by Steve Sobol 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

http://www.cleveland.com/news/sreports/flood/pages/1.html and if you prefer to read, rather than looking at pictures: http://www.cleveland.com/news/sreports/flood/ -- North Shore Technologies http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net 888.480.4NET Steve Sobol, President, Chief Website Architect and Janitor sjsobol(a)NorthShoreTechnologies.net My opinions DO, in fact, represent the official opinions of North Shore Technologies Corporation, since I own the company. Thanks for asking.

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Re: Selection of Appropriate Local SMTP Relay
by Andrew Bender 13 Jan '00

13 Jan '00

> If you have routing loops in your network, chances are you have bigger > issues to worry about.. Discontiguous networks create a supportability problem, and increase the risk of these very issues. One is not well advised (IMHO) to create such a network without a darn good reason...and this (to me) does not seem to be a Darn Good Reason. > Oh, and the mentioned "stardust" problem will happen whether you > choose to deploy distributed mail/dns/cache servers, or whether you have > a big farm. You'll still need some form of load-balancing in front of > your cluster. That's exactly the point. It is easier to solve this problem (not to mention scale or plan) for a farm or cluster than for servers in each of 270 pops. And easier yet when I use names, rather than the silly "well knowns". Opinions aside, the infrastructure required to support stateful load balancing for these boxes in each of their routing islands is substantially more than most are committing these days... Regards, Mr. Stardust tns-inc.com

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No Op. - Social action in SFO 5/6 February pre-NANOG mtgs.
by Lauren F. Nowlin 13 Jan '00

13 Jan '00

Hi all, Apologies to Randy for the non-operational content here... but of course we hope he joins us out on the Santa Cruz Boardwalk Sunday for bumper cars... should be smashing (gee I sound like Bill Norton!) entertainment. Saturday (5-Feb) afternoon: Paintball - e-mail Bill Norton <wbn(a)equinix.com> for details Saturday evening: Boating for an hour tour of the Bay (bring a jacket) - $10 per person. Meet at the entrance to Pier 39 (yeah, touristy but everyone can get directions to Pier 39) at 5:15 p.m. We want to make sure sunset is out on the water. Folks car-pooling from the Doubletree Hotel San Jose, 2050 Gateway Place, San Jose, CA 95110 should gather around 3:45 / 4 p.m. in the hotel lobby. It is about 50 miles between SJC & SFO and parking in SFO can be tough on the weekends. If you have a car reservation ask for a large vehicle and we'll load-up & caravan to the city. Saturday night (around 7:30 / 8 p.m.): Dinner in San Francisco at Fisherman's Grotto #9 down in the heart of the wharf. Chowder, sourdough & geeking.. I'm going to make a reservation for a party of 20 under the name NANOG. After a lengthy dinner & stroll of the Pier, we should do dessert at Ghiradelli Square (ice-cream sundaes to drool over) around 10 p.m. Clubbing/dancing - Locations TBD (Christian mentioned some 'Gold' club?)... lots of variety in SFO. Sunday: Santa Cruz on the Boardwalk is where we plan to recover the next day <g> http://www.beachboardwalk.com will display a few of the amusements. Rollercoasters run from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. in February. Bumper cars, salt-water taffy, sand & the usual beachfront stores are all there. This is the boardwalk from the movie _The Lost Boys_ . The ancient arcade has Tron, Ms. Pacman, Centipede, a shooting gallery and of course the latest video games. Woody has the name of a great sushi spot in Santa Cruz (Cathy W. probably does too...) We are going to meet in the hotel lobby at 10:30 and sort out the carpool. Plan to return to the hotel ~3:30. Andrew Khoo insists sushi should be the dinner plan on Sunday night <g> He never gets enough... Anyway, RSVP for the dinner on Saturday night so that I'll have a better guesstimate of 20 or 30 for dinner at the Fisherman's Grotto. Please don't rsvp to the list... Thanks all, -Ren Lauren F. Nowlin, ren(a)onyx.net / peering(a)onyx.net Director, Peering & Interconnects Onyx Networks, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Pacific Gateway Exchange Voice: 650-558-3262, Fax: 650-558-3154, Cellphone: 650-281-6963

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