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NM fire experience and NANOG BOF?
by Sean Donelan 26 May '00

26 May '00

Since NANOG is happening just a few weeks after the Los Alamos fires, I would be interested in any lessons we can learn from the NMISPs. Could any preparation have been done, or is necessity the mother of invention? Was it a unique convergence of events and talents unlikely to be repeated.

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Re: Network Solutions
by VIIS Network Operations Center 26 May '00

26 May '00

Marc Bejarano wrote: > At 02:45 PM 5/25/2000, VIIS Network Operations Center wrote: >> [grant@bismarck grant]$ whois yahoo.com(a)whois.networksolutions.com >> [whois.networksolutions.com] >> Sorry, you shouldn't see this record. > > works for me: They fixed it a little while ago. Grant -- Grant A. Kirkwood - Vision Imaging Internet Services email: grant(a)viis.net web: http://www.viis.net/ voice: 1.909.793.4600 fax: 1.909.793.5600 "True power is knowing that you can, but you don't."

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Re: Network/Routing Problem
by Mark Kent 25 May '00

25 May '00

>> I think you are confused. Starnet is a wholesale dialup provider, they are >> not spammers If they're not spammers then they are (or were) spammer magnets. In the past couple of years the majority of spam complaints we've received are misdirected at us and better directed at starnetinc.com. We get the complaints because our name is on starnet.com and people draw hasty conclusions instead of digging deeper and uncovering starnetinc.com and starnetusa.com. -mark

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Re: Network/Routing Problem
by Douglas Denault 25 May '00

25 May '00

This indeed is the answer which I also got from the GTE NOC. That pointer coming from other helpful reader. thank you all Doug D (returning your bandwidth to its pristine state) On Thu, 25 May 2000, Chris Parker wrote: > That ip is a static ip assigned to a dialup user. If they are not online, > then you will get the !H ( host unreachable ) from the gateway router at > that users primary dialup pop. > > -Chris > > > -- > \\\|||/// \ Chris Parker: Manager, Development Engineering > \ ~ ~ / \ cparker(a)starnetusa.net \ cparker(a)megapop.net > | @ @ | \ www.starnetusa.net \ www.megapop.net > oOo---(_)---oOo--\------------------------------------------------------ > \ Without C we would have 'obol', 'basi', and 'pasal' > > _____ Douglas Denault doug(a)safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601

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Network/Routing Problem
by Douglas Denault 25 May '00

25 May '00

I was working on an email problem with a customer this morning. They have since "gone missing". Does anyone know of relevant problems? Traceroutes are: (avg/max times remove for readability) 1) Worked about May 25 11:50 harbor:~> traceroute 192.216.240.234 traceroute to 192.216.240.234 (192.216.240.234), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 safeport (204.156.12.1) 2.523 ms 2.223 ms 2.254 ms 2 209.70.214.197 (209.70.214.197) 15.197 ms 77.384 ms 44.884 ms 3 fa-0-0-0.a06.vinnva01.us.ra.verio.net (207.22.81.1) 5.574 ms 4 g6-0.dca0.verio.net (129.250.30.161) 5.927 ms 5.745 ms 5.741 ms 5 dca0.iad3.verio.net (129.250.2.61) 6.470 ms 5.877 ms 6.028 ms 6 iad3.iad0.verio.net (129.250.2.177) 6.221 ms 5.840 ms 6.726 ms 7 f0-1-0.vienna1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.229) 7.000 ms 10.227 8 p2-0.vienna1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.49) 6.268 ms 6.320 ms 9 p1-0.vienna1-nbr3.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.46) 6.756 ms 18.527 ms 10 p4-0-0.vienna1-cr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.150) 7.897 ms 8.092 ms 11 lvdc2.popsite.net (209.100.18.3) 11.523 ms 12.138 ms 36.355 ms 12 lvdc2.popsite.net (209.100.18.3) 12.318 ms 12.247 ms 15.738 ms 13 57861eeurope.007.popsite.net (192.216.240.234) 138.235 ms 124.378 14 57861eeurope.007.popsite.net (192.216.240.234) 123.243 ms 121.488 2) Now: May 25 14:28 harbor:/var/log# traceroute 192.216.240.234 traceroute to 192.216.240.234 (192.216.240.234), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 safeport (204.156.12.1) 2.665 ms 2.167 ms 2.149 ms 2 209.70.214.197 (209.70.214.197) 5.516 ms 8.878 ms 16.313 ms 3 fa-0-0-0.a06.vinnva01.us.ra.verio.net (207.22.81.1) 6.867 ms 4 g6-0.dca0.verio.net (129.250.30.161) 5.344 ms 5.826 ms 5.772 ms 5 dca0.iad3.verio.net (129.250.2.61) 5.794 ms 5.688 ms 5.869 ms 6 iad3.iad0.verio.net (129.250.2.177) 6.781 ms 6.083 ms 6.087 ms 7 f0-1-0.vienna1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.229) 7.049 ms 6.355 ms 8 p2-0.vienna1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.49) 7.090 ms 6.964 ms 9 p1-0.vienna1-nbr3.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.46) 7.418 ms 6.772 ms 10 p4-0-0.vienna1-cr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.150) 9.545 ms 8.249 ms 11 s0.starnetinc2.bbnplanet.net (4.1.3.190) 14.976 ms !H * 22.048 ms !H User site is in England; I am in Bethesda MD _____ Douglas Denault doug(a)safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601

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Post-Fiber Cut (Atlanta, GA to Boca Raton FL) Questions
by Tim Driggers 25 May '00

25 May '00

There was (apparently) a Qwest fiber cut yesterday that affected Verio for about 12 hours, where any other providers directly affected by the same fiber cut? Tim.

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Re: That pesky AS path corruption bug...
by Michael Shields 25 May '00

25 May '00

In article <20000524163200.D367(a)ewok.creative.net.au>, Adrian Chadd <adrian(a)creative.net.au> wrote: > Cryptographically signing here ensures someone isn't going to tamper > with your route announcements in transit. When script kiddies have the > technology to splice fibre cabes in their backyard and sniff/replace > data at line speed, I'm sure they will have more fun things to do than > mess with your BGP session. Are you as confident about the security of exchange point fabrics? -- Shields.

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USwest DSL in SEA
by Bill Sehmel 25 May '00

25 May '00

Does anyone know what was up with usworst's DSL in the seatttle area yesterday? -bill

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RE: UUNet?
by Andrew Lee 24 May '00

24 May '00

What, you think its a coincidence that Tuesday morning there was a thread started titled 'That pesky AS path corruption bug'? ;) > > > At 5/24/00 -0400, you wrote: > > >On Wed, 24 May 2000, Jeff Wheat wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know what happened on Monday? Seems like it > has been hushed > > > up as I can find no information about > > > it anywhere. Contacting UUNet results in them telling us > that their > > > legal department is working on a press release... > > > >i just called UUnet, and basically asked nicely "what happened on > >monday, around 5pm...?" > > > >the support person looked at the logs for my links, and said > that they > >appeared stable at that point. i pressed a little more "don't you > >have any network status reports for monday? did someone trip over a > >switch or something?" > > > >he said, "oh yah monday! someone nuked some routing tables, that's > >right...like 50,000 customers were out, our call queue was crazy!" > > > >the "phone-sex-voice" will get answers out of anybody. ;) > > > >deeann m.m. mikula > > > When I called, they first said that there was a BGP peering > problem, and > the answers got more vague from then on. I didn't try the > phone-sex-voice > though. Maybe I'll do that today!! >

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Colo site selection
by Rich Braun 24 May '00

24 May '00

One of the more-vexing aspects of network planning and deployment is picking out space for facilities. The good ones are taken (i.e. no available rack space); many are not carrier neutral (I have to go through provisioning purgatory to add or repair a circuit); and now a new phenomenon seems to be spreading--big empty data centers getting built out at a frenetic pace, at least here in Boston, but with no one important to whom I can connect. Beancounters also make life interesting--by the time they approve the deal at $X per square foot, the vendor turns around and insists on $(X+Y) per square foot. Then the beancounter asks, with a perfectly straight face, why the price is 3x higher in Boston (or wherever) than the deal he just approved in Atlanta...ugh. I'm seeking to either commiserate with others who have to deal with this site-selection hell, or to find out some useful sources of research and contact info about useful sites whose prices aren't outrageous. My affiliation is Primus Telecomm, and this question applies to both USA and non-USA locations. -rich

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