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Re: Global Crossing Network Problem.
by Jason Legate 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Again, why would this affect SNV2->SNV connectivity? On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:40:45PM -0700, Ted Mektrakarn wrote: > its a fiber cut between SFO & LAX > > > -- > Ted Mektrakarn ted(a)MP3.COM > Network Ninja > MP3.com, Inc. - The Premier Music Service Provider (MSP) > http://www.mp3.com > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Jason Legate wrote: > > > > > I'm not from GBLX either, but we did hear there was a fiber cut in SF > > today. It doesn't quite explain why I can't reach SNV2 from SNV (right > > across the street from each other). > > > > -j > > > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:14:01PM -0700, Karyn Ulriksen wrote: > > > > > > I'm not from GLBX, but I we do peer with them so I get the maint notices. > > > They are have been doing a lot of router upgrades in SunnyVale for the past > > > week. I seek from the trace you sent in that the failures are occuring > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mohamed Hirse [mailto:madlion@justin.net] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:03 PM > > > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > > > Subject: Global Crossing Network Problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone from Global crossing help explain this problem. There seems to > > > be some sort of internal network problem. Traceroutes attached. This > > > affecting many of GBLX customers. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Mohamed > > > > > > > > > route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net > > > > > > Type escape sequence to abort. > > > Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) > > > > > > 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 4 msec 0 msec 0 > > > msec > > > 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 0 > > > msec > > > 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec > > > 0 msec > > > 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > > > msec > > > 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > > > msec > > > 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 76 msec > > > 72 msec > > > 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec > > > pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 72 msec > > > pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 72 msec > > > 8 * * * > > > 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H > > > route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net > > > > > > Type escape sequence to abort. > > > Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) > > > > > > 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 0 > > > msec > > > 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 4 > > > msec > > > 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec > > > 0 msec > > > 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > > > msec > > > 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 8 msec 4 msec 8 > > > msec > > > 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 72 msec > > > 72 msec > > > 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec > > > pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 76 msec 72 msec > > > 8 * * * > > > 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H > > > route-server.cerf.net> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > /--------------------------/ Jason Legate \------------------------\ > > | jlegate(a)sitesmith.com | SiteSmith, Inc. | > > | 24x7 Call Center | http://www.sitesmith.com | > > | 888.898.7667 | PGP Key ID - 0xA855AAC3 | > > +---------------------------------+--------------------------------+ > > | Fingerprint - 2D5F 87A0 26E6 A65B 6837 D100 FB54 A972 A855 AAC3 | > > \------------------------------------------------------------------/ > > -- /--------------------------/ Jason Legate \------------------------\ | jlegate(a)sitesmith.com | SiteSmith, Inc. | | 24x7 Call Center | http://www.sitesmith.com | | 888.898.7667 | PGP Key ID - 0xA855AAC3 | +---------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Fingerprint - 2D5F 87A0 26E6 A65B 6837 D100 FB54 A972 A855 AAC3 | \------------------------------------------------------------------/

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RE: Global Crossing Network Problem.
by Karyn Ulriksen 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

LAX is running pretty clean right now on my outbound GLBX. I'm just worried about my inbound, but my customers aren't complaining and I'm only seeing minor inbound packet loss via my GLBX. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Legate [mailto:jlegate@alienchick.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:35 PM To: Karyn Ulriksen Cc: 'Jason Legate'; 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: Re: Global Crossing Network Problem. Their noc stated that they are also having issues with a router in LAX. I'm not sure the details on this. I'd suggest calling their NOC... 1-888-541-9888 Ticket # 627249 for the cut.. I don't know the # for the router issue -j On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:33:09PM -0700, Karyn Ulriksen wrote: > I did see about twenty minutes of flapping on our DS3 to them. That's hooks > up at 1 Wilshire (MAE LA). Why would problems at SunnyVale cause Wilshire > to flap?! Not a BGP flap, an interface flap. Line protocol down, up, down, > up, etc. > > Veddy interestink... Sounds a little more wide spread... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Legate [mailto:jlegate@alienchick.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:20 PM > To: Karyn Ulriksen > Cc: 'Mohamed Hirse'; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Global Crossing Network Problem. > > > > I'm not from GBLX either, but we did hear there was a fiber cut in SF > today. It doesn't quite explain why I can't reach SNV2 from SNV (right > across the street from each other). > > -j > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:14:01PM -0700, Karyn Ulriksen wrote: > > > > I'm not from GLBX, but I we do peer with them so I get the maint notices. > > They are have been doing a lot of router upgrades in SunnyVale for the > past > > week. I seek from the trace you sent in that the failures are occuring > > there. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mohamed Hirse [mailto:madlion@justin.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:03 PM > > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > > Subject: Global Crossing Network Problem. > > > > > > > > > > Can someone from Global crossing help explain this problem. There seems to > > be some sort of internal network problem. Traceroutes attached. This > > affecting many of GBLX customers. > > > > Thanks > > Mohamed > > > > > > route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net > > > > Type escape sequence to abort. > > Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) > > > > 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 4 msec 0 msec 0 > > msec > > 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 0 > > msec > > 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec > > 0 msec > > 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > > msec > > 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > > msec > > 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 76 msec > > 72 msec > > 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec > > pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 72 msec > > pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 72 msec > > 8 * * * > > 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H > > route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net > > > > Type escape sequence to abort. > > Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) > > > > 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 0 > > msec > > 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 4 > > msec > > 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec > > 0 msec > > 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > > msec > > 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 8 msec 4 msec 8 > > msec > > 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 72 msec > > 72 msec > > 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec > > pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 76 msec 72 msec > > 8 * * * > > 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H > > route-server.cerf.net> > > > > > > -- > /--------------------------/ Jason Legate \------------------------\ > | jlegate(a)sitesmith.com | SiteSmith, Inc. | > | 24x7 Call Center | http://www.sitesmith.com | > | 888.898.7667 | PGP Key ID - 0xA855AAC3 | > +---------------------------------+--------------------------------+ > | Fingerprint - 2D5F 87A0 26E6 A65B 6837 D100 FB54 A972 A855 AAC3 | > \------------------------------------------------------------------/ -- /--------------------------/ Jason Legate \------------------------\ | jlegate(a)sitesmith.com | SiteSmith, Inc. | | 24x7 Call Center | http://www.sitesmith.com | | 888.898.7667 | PGP Key ID - 0xA855AAC3 | +---------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Fingerprint - 2D5F 87A0 26E6 A65B 6837 D100 FB54 A972 A855 AAC3 | \------------------------------------------------------------------/

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RE: Global Crossing Network Problem.
by Mike Bostardi 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Obviously the "other" means of protection doesn't work too well... > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesper Skriver [mailto:jesper@skriver.dk] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:33 PM > To: Mohamed Hirse > Cc: Steve Nash; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Global Crossing Network Problem. > > > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 05:16:34PM -0400, Mohamed Hirse wrote: > > > > Thanks Steve. I would hope GBLX has some sort of SONET protection > > deployed accross their network. > > Why - if they have other means of protection, it can be just as good. > > /Jesper > > -- > Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 > Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) > Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) > > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. >

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RE: Global Crossing Network Problem.
by Karyn Ulriksen 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

I did see about twenty minutes of flapping on our DS3 to them. That's hooks up at 1 Wilshire (MAE LA). Why would problems at SunnyVale cause Wilshire to flap?! Not a BGP flap, an interface flap. Line protocol down, up, down, up, etc. Veddy interestink... Sounds a little more wide spread... -----Original Message----- From: Jason Legate [mailto:jlegate@alienchick.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:20 PM To: Karyn Ulriksen Cc: 'Mohamed Hirse'; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Global Crossing Network Problem. I'm not from GBLX either, but we did hear there was a fiber cut in SF today. It doesn't quite explain why I can't reach SNV2 from SNV (right across the street from each other). -j On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:14:01PM -0700, Karyn Ulriksen wrote: > > I'm not from GLBX, but I we do peer with them so I get the maint notices. > They are have been doing a lot of router upgrades in SunnyVale for the past > week. I seek from the trace you sent in that the failures are occuring > there. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mohamed Hirse [mailto:madlion@justin.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:03 PM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Global Crossing Network Problem. > > > > > Can someone from Global crossing help explain this problem. There seems to > be some sort of internal network problem. Traceroutes attached. This > affecting many of GBLX customers. > > Thanks > Mohamed > > > route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) > > 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 4 msec 0 msec 0 > msec > 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 0 > msec > 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec > 0 msec > 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > msec > 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > msec > 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 76 msec > 72 msec > 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec > pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 72 msec > pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 72 msec > 8 * * * > 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H > route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) > > 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 0 > msec > 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 4 > msec > 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec > 0 msec > 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > msec > 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 8 msec 4 msec 8 > msec > 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 72 msec > 72 msec > 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec > pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 76 msec 72 msec > 8 * * * > 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H > route-server.cerf.net> > > -- /--------------------------/ Jason Legate \------------------------\ | jlegate(a)sitesmith.com | SiteSmith, Inc. | | 24x7 Call Center | http://www.sitesmith.com | | 888.898.7667 | PGP Key ID - 0xA855AAC3 | +---------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Fingerprint - 2D5F 87A0 26E6 A65B 6837 D100 FB54 A972 A855 AAC3 | \------------------------------------------------------------------/

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RE: Global Crossing Network Problem.
by Karyn Ulriksen 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Believe me, it's not easy. Apparently, the email goes to whoever provisioned the line. So check your provisioning department or accounting. It's pretty certain that it's not doing them any good. Word of warning, it took us about three months to get them to change it to our NOC email. Aaaahhh, good ole FroGlo... -----Original Message----- From: Jesper Skriver [mailto:jesper@skriver.dk] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:28 PM To: Karyn Ulriksen Subject: Re: Global Crossing Network Problem. On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:14:01PM -0700, Karyn Ulriksen wrote: > > I'm not from GLBX, but I we do peer with them so I get the maint notices. > They are have been doing a lot of router upgrades in SunnyVale for the past > week. I seek from the trace you sent in that the failures are occuring > there. How did you get these, we also peer with them, but I don't know of any mailing lists ... /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.

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RE: Global Crossing Network Problem.
by Michael Medwid 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

They told me it was a fiber cut and it was down a half hour because the network was performing "reconvergence". Could it possibly take that long (about 1/2 hour by my count) to reconverge? Michael -----Original Message----- From: Gwendolynn ferch Elydyr [mailto:gwen@reptiles.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:20 PM To: Mohamed Hirse Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Global Crossing Network Problem. Their NOC says that there's a fibre cut. On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Mohamed Hirse wrote: > Can someone from Global crossing help explain this problem. There seems to > be some sort of internal network problem. Traceroutes attached. This > affecting many of GBLX customers. > > Thanks > Mohamed > > > route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) > > 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 4 msec 0 msec 0 > msec > 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 0 > msec > 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec > 0 msec > 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > msec > 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > msec > 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 76 msec > 72 msec > 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec > pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 72 msec > pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 72 msec > 8 * * * > 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H > route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) > > 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 0 > msec > 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 4 > msec > 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec > 0 msec > 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 > msec > 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 8 msec 4 msec 8 > msec > 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 72 msec > 72 msec > 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec > pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 76 msec 72 msec > 8 * * * > 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H > route-server.cerf.net> > > > ========================================================================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now."

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RE: Global Crossing Network Problem.
by Karyn Ulriksen 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

I'm not from GLBX, but I we do peer with them so I get the maint notices. They are have been doing a lot of router upgrades in SunnyVale for the past week. I seek from the trace you sent in that the failures are occuring there. -----Original Message----- From: Mohamed Hirse [mailto:madlion@justin.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:03 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Global Crossing Network Problem. Can someone from Global crossing help explain this problem. There seems to be some sort of internal network problem. Traceroutes attached. This affecting many of GBLX customers. Thanks Mohamed route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 76 msec 72 msec 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 72 msec pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 72 msec 8 * * * 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 72 msec 72 msec 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 76 msec 72 msec 8 * * * 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H route-server.cerf.net>

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Global Crossing Network Problem.
by Mohamed Hirse 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Can someone from Global crossing help explain this problem. There seems to be some sort of internal network problem. Traceroutes attached. This affecting many of GBLX customers. Thanks Mohamed route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 76 msec 72 msec 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 72 msec pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 72 msec 8 * * * 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H route-server.cerf.net>traceroute www.juniper.net Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to www.juniper.net (207.17.137.30) 1 fe8-0-0.san-bb1.cerf.net (134.24.38.225) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 fe0-0-0.san-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.102) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 3 so2-1-2-155M.san-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.29.181) [AS 1740] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 4 pos3-0-622M.lax-bb5.cerf.net (134.24.29.14) [AS 1740] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec 5 pos5-0-622M.lax-bb4.cerf.net (134.24.33.169) [AS 1740] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec 6 pos6-0-622M.sfo-bb3.cerf.net (134.24.29.233) [AS 1740] 72 msec 72 msec 72 msec 7 pos5-0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.29.22) [AS 1740] 76 msec pos0-0-155M.sjc-bb2.cerf.net (134.24.32.90) [AS 1740] 76 msec 72 msec 8 * * * 9 pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNV3.gblx.net (208.50.169.74) [AS 3549] !H !H !H route-server.cerf.net>

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CA ISO issues stage 2 alert (Here we go again)
by Sean Donelan 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

The California Independent System Operator issued a stage 2 alert for California at 1:30pm PDT. This means electric power reserves have dropped below 5%. An unplanned shutdown of a nuclear power plant in Washington has left the western grid short of power, combined with higher than normal temperatures. "Voluntary" curtailment of power is effect for the rest of the afternoon.

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Re: FW: public key service
by ktsolis＠mindspring.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

A slight correction.... On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Tsolis, Kristen wrote: > > I'm going to try to keep this operational, but it's hard because you're > > going to find that support for making a robust keyserver network hinges upon > > people agreeing that such a service is needed, and many PGP users are going > > to tell you that such a keyserver violates the PGP trust model. Hm? These words have been misattributed to me. I don't see any reason why the PGP trust model would be compromised by a keyserver network since the individual PGP user is checking keys and deciding which keys to trust. I welcome further conversation re:ISP-run keyservers on the keyserver-folks list, but I hope to see further coordination re: a NANOG keysigning party on this list. cheers, Kristen

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