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looking for midwest sprint rep
by michael thomas guldan 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

hi, looking for a GOOD(ahem) sprint rep for a bid on a customer T-1 in the dublin/hilliard, ohio area. i would prefer referrals from existing customers over direct contact from salespeople. thanks, michael -- e: michael(a)ele-mental.org c: +1.614.260.6716 u: www.ele-mental.org Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn

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arrgh
by Joe Abley 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

We need a nanog-variant of Godwin's law, with the trigger phrases "ICANN" and "UDRP".

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Re: Namespace conflicts
by Steven M. Bellovin 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

In message <20010309100228.A2521(a)redhat.com>, "Bryan C. Andregg" writes: > >--sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:10:09AM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin mailed: >> In my area of NJ, virtually every town's "obvious" .com domain names were= >=20 >> grabbed by one of two competing would-be service providers. They had=20 >> absolutely no town-specific content -- but if the town wanted a Web=20 >> site, they had no choice but to deal with these folks. I have no major= >=20 >> problem with first-come, first-served *productive* use of a domain name, >> but frankly, that's not where the problem has been. The problem has=20 >> been speculators and cybersquatters. > >Uh, why couldn't the town just use <name>.nj.us or whatever the city specif= >ic >code was long ago and far way. They grabbed those, too. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb

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Re: Fiber cut in Ontario, Canada cutsoff @home users
by William F. Maton 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Zwiep, Rick wrote: > It's surprising that in this era of huge fiber capacity with SONET, ATM and > MPLS and WDM that a fiber cut should take out an entire province full of > users... Beats me. As one of those users, I did feel it. Everybody else seems to be up and running just fine, so it makes wonder about @home's topology in Ontario. > At one time that fiber link from Toronto to Buffalo was on an unprotected > fiber segment, but that was years ago... hmmm Probably during the good ol' days of "Call before you dig." > rgds - rickz wfms

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PRESS RELEASE: TCH.ORG Expands Internet Naming with New Top Level Domain Names
by Steve Rubin 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

The full text of this release is available at http://www.tch.org/tld/press.html San Jose, Calif - March 8, 2001 - TCH.ORG (http://www.tch.org/) a internet incubator, officially announced today that it will begin offering a easy to use alternative to hard to remember "DOT COM" addresses.

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Fiber cut in Ontario, Canada cutsoff @home users
by William F. Maton 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

Greets, According to a news report this morning there was a fiber cut which is used to service @Home customers in the province of Ontario. Apparently, the fiber was cut as thieves were trying to salvage copper. First, seti@home's facilities were cut off by a similar act of "simple copper mining" and now it looks like another of the same sort of incident. I wonder if there are statistics available showing a growing trend of network outage due to copper theft. Sean? wfms

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Re: [NANOG] Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play
by Ben Browning 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

At 06:00 PM 3/7/2001, Vadim Antonov wrote: >The only real solutiuon to the present and future DNS woes is to replace >it with the hyperlinks, portals, address books and search engines - and >_no_ human-readable names. This effectively creates as many "roots" as >there are users. My "John Doe" is not the same as your "John Doe" :) For some reason, I can't see CNN broadcasting "Come visit our website, at 207.25.71.27 or 207.25.71.28 or 207.25.71.29 or 207.25.71.30 or 207.25.71.5 or 207.25.71.6 or 207.25.71.20 or 207.25.71.22 or 207.25.71.23 or 207.25.71.24 or or 207.25.71.25 or 207.25.71.26". Not to mention the fact that IPv6 will make that even uglier. I *like* DNS. Abolishing it would be akin to, say, removing the UNIX path environment variable and all aliasing/symlinking support from the kernel. ~Ben (I speak for myself, here) --- Ben Browning <benb(a)theriver.com> The River Internet Access Co. Network Operations 1-877-88-RIVER http://www.theriver.com

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RE: new.net
by Mathew Butler 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

You -could- always do the whois-type thing, where ALL records containing 'apple' are returned, on first access to the name? -Mat Butler -----Original Message----- From: Simon Lockhart [mailto:simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:32 PM To: richb(a)pioneer.ci.net Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: new.net >Therefore any company which creates a broader hierarchy is not motivated >by what's best for Internet users, who are best served by a simple >hierarchy (IBM is IBM is IBM no matter what you append to it). Okay. You picked an example which proves your point. However, there's plenty of exceptions. Who should have "apple" in this flat namespace? Apple Computers? Apple Records? Apple Fruitstore? While the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) is a fairly well-known name worldwide, what gives us more claim to "bbc" in the flat namespace than "Big Blue and Cousins" or "Baptist Bible College" (bbc.org and bbc.edu respectively)? Have we now got bbc.com because we had a greater claim to it, or because we had the better lawyers? Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart(a)bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/

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Re: new.net
by richb＠pioneer.ci.net 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

William Allen Simpson <wsimpson(a)greendragon.com> wrote: > In Spain, the City of Barcelona has trademarked barcelona.es, .com, > .net, and .org. Excessive (in my view), but no surprise with the > actions of Llena. This thread makes me wonder why the city of Boston didn't try to grab Boston.com. Perhaps they did, but the current holder (a large daily newspaper owned by none other than the NY Times) has deep enough pockets to engage in a lengthy battle. The original holder of that domain was Au Bon Pain, based in Cambridge: a croissant and coffee shop. My $0.02 on the nature of naming: this is just exactly like the 800 toll-free prefix. As soon as 888 opened up, whoever held 800-FLOWERS then had to reserve 888-FLOWERS. (I recall trying to get a mnemonic 888 number, but gave up after learning that all the good ones were taken within 60 days.) Now there's 877 and 866. The mnemonic names are, no doubt, all taken by the same folks who got the 800 prefixes. People who create a trademark want to have it protected globally. It's human nature. We *want* a flat namespace. If someone tries to spread it out across a hierarchy, we instinctively use our resources to *grab* our piece of the rest of the hierarchical turf. Therefore any company which creates a broader hierarchy is not motivated by what's best for Internet users, who are best served by a simple hierarchy (IBM is IBM is IBM no matter what you append to it). The company is motivated by collecting a toll from those lawyers representing companies who seek to grab their piece of the turf. Corporate entities should be *required* to register in the flat dot-com namespace, IMHO, and not be *allowed* names in any other namespace. All DNS does is complicate network management. Vadim's position is extreme, but not too far off the mark. Keep it simple, stupid, should be ICANN's guiding philosophy on this. Wonder how to implement this without turning it all over to the bureaucrats at the US Patent & Trademark Office? -rich

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Re: Statistics for Public Peering Points
by Akio Sugeno 09 Mar '01

09 Mar '01

At PM 11:33 03/08/01, Devon True wrote: >All: > >Does anyone know of an online resource where one can see daily statistics >for the various public peering points? E.g. MAE-East, MAE-West, etc. >Anything I found online was either out-of-date or required a username/password. http://www.ep.net/stats.html --akio ----------------------------------- Akio Sugeno Chairman of NYIIX/LAIIX/6IIX Voice: 718-355-2509, Fax: 718-355-2517

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