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RE: NOC servers with public/private ip address
by Roeland Meyer 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

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www.ncs.gov
by Sean Donelan 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Does anyone know what's up/down with NCS's web server? Their network connection seems to be alive, but no response from any of their public web servers.

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RE: OSPF Network design
by Rizkalla, Simon 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Jan, Creating 9 different areas might be hard to manage, therfore I propose that you may want to simplify this by clustering the remote sites into provinces/states. A book that my collegue and I have been reading in regards to our OSPF network design has been the Cisco - OSPF Design Guide, or Designing and Implementing an OSPF network - Cisco. Regards Simon -----Original Message----- From: jan Huizinga [mailto:jhui@gdb.com.gr] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:24 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: OSPF Network design Hello, I have a question regarding OSPF design. I have a customer which has a hub and spoke topology, in the main site the have 5 routers and every remote site is using 3 routers and a 1/4 class C addresses. There are 8 remote sites. They have created for every site an area, so in total 9 areas + an area 0 makes 10 areas. Is this a typical OSPF design? At this moment this network is a 100% VoIP network (H.323). In the future they want also to give Internet access to their customers (dial-up and leased lines). The remote sites are connected with 1MB links, and some of them shall be upgraded to 2MB links. Any ideas? Or does some one have a good reference to a site or a book that deals with the designing of a (OSPF) network. I have books about OSPF but they talk all about the protocol, and don't give real world examples how to design this. Thanks, Jan

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Re: Wither DSL?
by up＠3.am 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Jason K. Schechner wrote: > Where is "here"? If it's anywhere near the DC area I may have to make > some calls.... Here is PA. However, I believe Verizon offers this plan throughout former Bell Atlantic territory, including DC, and MD. You need to ask for "Virtual Office ISDN". If you commit to 2 years it's down to $62/mo here in PA, I think about $40 in DC, MD, VA and WV. > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 up(a)3.am wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, J.D. Falk wrote: > > > > > Northpoint is gone. Covad and Rhythms are both clearly poised > > > to be bought and borged into some larger unfriendly telco. Is > > > there any non-monopoly DSL option left? > > > > I don't think Rhythms is rapidly going the way of Northpoint...not borged, Typo here...delete "don't". > > but just abandoned. > > > > > What are y'all telling your customers? > > > > Well, around here, Verizon has finally come up with a semi-affordable ISDN > > unmetered plan, and our NASen still do ISDN :) James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up(a)3.am http://3.am =========================================================================

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Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting
by Nathan J. Mehl 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

In the immortal words of Mitch Halmu (mitch(a)netside.net) > > Guilty of what, Vivien? You are accusing me of being a spammer? MAPS "accused" you, via a listing in the RSS zone (subscription to which is now and has alwasy been 100% voluntary), of running an open relay. Buried in the midst of your laughable comspiracy-mongering(*) on your website, you confirm that you are, in fact, deliberately doing exactly that. You persist in being the only person on the planet who finds this state of affairs perplexing in any way. > NetSide's customers were fully informed of our stance published on > a web site dedicated to the problem, most agreed, and those that > chose to stay and endure the year-long MAPS blockade obviously like > their communications uncensored, and truly appreciate being able to > transparently use their accounts from elsewhere (i.e., from the > office). Two years ago, refusing to admit to the existance of SMTP-AUTH and pop-before-smtp could be excused as ignorance. A year ago, deliberate obtuseness would be the most generous interpretation. In the middle of 2001, we are left only with malicious idiocy and/or professional incompetance. In sum: grow up, do your job for a change, and please stop trolling on NANOG. -n (*) I noticed on my last cursory pass over dotcomeon.com that you no longer seem to be maintaining that MAPS is a conspiracy of the Japanese government. May I assume that NTT's lawyers were as amused as I was? ------------------------------------------------------------<memory(a)blank.org> "Look, I don't know how they do things on your home planet, spaceman...but here in Mayberry, we just don't talk to gun-toting, redneck, amphetamine freaks that way." (--Red Meat, "Microwave Pet Carrier") <http://blank.org/memory/>----------------------------------------------------

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Re: Another fiber cut in Maryland?
by Sean Donelan 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

On Tue, 14 August 2001, Sudheer Dharanikota wrote: > Can somebody point me: > > - What are the levels of diversity sold by the PSs? and > - How much is charged for different types of diversity requests from a client? Your local friendly carrier salesperson would be a really good resource to ask. They are listed in the phone book.

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Re: Another fiber cut in Maryland?
by Sean Donelan 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

On Thu, 09 August 2001, up(a)3.am wrote: > On 9 Aug 2001, Sean Donelan wrote: > > Its either the continuation, or a new fiber cut in Maryland > > between Baltimore and Washington DC this afternoon in addition > > to the one this morning. > From UUnet's NOC site: > > A fiber cut in Relay MD affecting service in Baltimore and Philadelphia. > Currently there is no time to repair. Apparently one of the fiber cuts today caught a large bandwidth consumer located at Ft. Meade in Maryland. I wonder if they paid for physically diverse routing?

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RE: "Afflack!"...of the balkanization of mail blacklisting
by Patrick Greenwell 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, kysi ferul wrote: > > Cut the baloney! Why 'NO nuthin' on PAC BELL/TELESIS/SBC/MCIworldcom/USBI/WilTel,Inc./FTC/FCC/FAA/Microsoft-Hotmail…. > Via:SFPD/FBI/COINTELPRO/QUEENELIZABETHSJAPANESEBANKERINJAVA?. > ................with the SLAMMED PHONE BILLS? > Has no one 'NOTICED' the starnge coincidence of NAMES of 'FIASCO' & Co.s? > Between STINGS & CORPORATIONS? USBI phone...What was the Bank in Indonesia? CointelPro? Is that a COIN OPERATED PENTIUM 3 for 'T.J. Hookers'? > The US GOV. 'covert' operations sound alot like the "REVERSE ENGINEERING 'product!'from 'OFFSHORE? > "A 'HACK ATTACK' is worth a thousand PATENT FILINGS" 'signed' A. Jaap; Esq. Whatever you're on, I DON'T want any.

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Re: Code Red 2 cleanup; reporting..
by Steven M. Bellovin 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

In message <EA9368A5B1010140ADBF534E4D32C728025B06(a)condor.mhsc.com>, Roeland Me yer writes: > >> So -- if he wasn't running IIS, what was he running? > >Win2K boxen are ALWAYS running IIS. It doesn't matter whether you have Pro >or Server. ALL Win2K systems need to run the patch. MSFT chose to integrate >much of the IIS stuff into DLLs with other system critical stuff. As a >result, IIS can't be completely removed without killing off other critical >functions. Yes, what they proved in court is even more true with Win2K than >with Win98 (Duh! MSFT didn't lie, but they didn't tell the whole truth >either). WinXP is even more in that direction, from all reports. I think you're confusing IIS with Internet Explorer. And Microsoft denies that it's installed by default on Win2K Professional -- see http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security… XP Beta 2 does have IIS by default; XP RC1 and RC2 do not. I can't be sure they're telling the whole truth; I can tell you that the two Win2K boxes I sometimes use are not listening to anything on port 80. > >BTW, is any motion happening, in the direction of finding the author(s)? I'd >like to personally thank them, with a new neck-tie. The other end is >attached to a huge California oak tree. > Not that I've heard. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb

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DNS Issues
by Mike Moglin 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

I need some help in understand this one.. A disgruntled employee set up duplicate DNS for our domain on his personal server and convinced uu.net to update their DNS records to point to his server as our secondary DNS server. The record on his server has a different serial number than ours does, and we've contacted uu.net to point the domain back where it belonged. The question is how do I get the records to propagate rapidly?? he set the expire time on the records he sent out extremely high. Is there a way to force an update?? And what do the serial numbers really do? Thanks.

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