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RE: DirecPC Engineering Contact
by Heath_Dieckert＠Dell.com 14 May '02

14 May '02

I can understand your lack of belief. Imagine my surprise when I got 9 emails in response to my question and 15 questions about how to replicate my sig. LOL!!! I've been laughing about that all day. Who says engineers can't have a sense of humor. If you met me somewhere besides work, or even at work, you probably wouldn't think I was an engineer. But I am. -----Original Message----- From: Rik Thomas [mailto:rikt@smartbackups.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:08 PM To: Heath_Dieckert(a)exchange.dell.com; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: DirecPC Engineering Contact And I can't believe an engineer would know any better than to post that signature.

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BGP and aggregation
by Ralph Doncaster 13 May '02

13 May '02

I have transit in 2 cities. I have a circuit connecting the 2 cities as well. So far I've been using non-contiguous IPs, so there's been no opportunity for aggregation. Having just received my /20 from ARIN, I'm trying to plan my network. Lets say I split the /20 into 2 /21's, one for each city. I'd like to announce the aggregate /20 instead of 2 /21's, as long as the circuit connecting the 2 cities is working. If the circuit goes down I want each city to announce the local /21. Is this possible? (using either a Cisco router or Zebra) Ralph Doncaster principal, IStop.com div. of Doncaster Consulting Inc.

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Re: BGP and aggregation
by Roger Marquis 13 May '02

13 May '02

Scott Granados wrote: > We set ospf > internally, set up bgp for the announcements at each site and used the > no-export tag for the more specifics. Then gre tunnels:) for the > internal. It worked and I pushed probably 45 to 50mb over the internal > loops or gre tunnels. Not ideal but it worked. Last time I tried this (IOS11.X to IOS11.X GRE) it was unreliable due to MTU limits. Certain websites (mainly financial) send large packets and set DF. This probably works around some security issue but the result was that these SSL servers couldn't reach clients over the GRE. -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/

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C&W outage in So. Florida
by Mitch Halmu 13 May '02

13 May '02

Cable & Wireless had an outage in South Florida approx. between 12:50 - 16:10 EDT today. Anoyone privy to details? --Mitch NetSide

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DirecPC Engineering Contact
by Heath_Dieckert＠Dell.com 13 May '02

13 May '02

Does anybody on the list work for DirecPC or have an engineering contact at directPC. I can't believe they are selling non-routable addresses as an ISP to the general public. Please reply offline. Heath Dieckert Network Engineer Dell US Internetworking Systems 512.723.5026

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Asian exchange points
by Richard A Steenbergen 12 May '02

12 May '02

I know this isn't quote North American, but does anyone know what major exchange points exist in Asia? The largest one I've found so far is JPIX, which seems to move a fair amount of traffic (http://www.jpix.co.jp/en/techncal/traffic.html) Any other major ones? -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras(a)e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)

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New SubSeven outbreak?
by Jeff Workman 12 May '02

12 May '02

All, I have seen 6 portscans looking for SubSeven on a /24 in the past 24 hours. It'd been a while since I had seen *any*, now I'm seeing all these. Is this a new outbreak/vulnerability, or have I just been lucky? Has anybody else seen an increase in scans on tcp port 27374? I scanned through BugTraq and didn't see any mention of anything there. -J -- Jeff Workman | jworkman(a)pimpworks.org | http://www.pimpworks.org

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Re: anybody else been spammed by "no-ip.com" yet?
by Gregory Hicks 11 May '02

11 May '02

> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:27:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott Granados <scott(a)graphidelix.net> > > I realize this statement I'm about to make is going to open a huge... > can o worms but ... and hoefully everyone knows I mean this in the most > friendly responsible way ever but I'm not sure entirely what the big > deal with spam is. Honestly sure I get it like everyone else, in some [...snip...] > money. Today with flat rate access and many people not paying on a per > packet basis it seems to me that the responsibility lies with the end > user to filter properly and or dress that delete key. I always shut [...snip...] The problem with this is that, yes, to the END USER, there is no direct cost involved. However, in order to maintain the same level of service, the ISP is forced to go get a bigger pipe and/or bigger, faster routers and/or servers. (Raises prices a bit per account) The transit provider raises the costs to the ISP because the packet count has gone way up. The backbone provider has equipment running a bit hotter because of the increased packet count. This may cause them to either increase the bill to the transit provider and/or procure bigger and better equipment (to handle the load) before their planned replacement time... The peers to this ISP are forced to get either bigger pipes and/or more costly equipment (routers) in order to handle the increased packet count they might be seeing. In all of this, the bozo (well..., 'user' really) originating the email (well, spam) has not paid a thing other than a temporary interruption in service for one of his throw-away accounts and is still paying a 'flat rate' for the POP (dial-in) service that HIS isp is providing. For snail mail junk mail (aka spam), the mailer bears ALL of the costs and, if there is insufficient returns on their junk mail, is forced to stop. A 'spammer' does not see these costs and thus has no incentive to find another model to do business. We get, for our 7K users, upwards of 25,000+ unwanted messages per day that make it past our not so rigid filters. My $0.02 worth. Use the delete key... Regards, Gregory Hicks > > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Mitch Halmu wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > > > > I hate to sound like the big idiot here, but what exactly in the email > > > > you received indicates no-ip.com spammed? It looks to me like you just > > > > have some secret "admirer" who thought you wanted a no-ip.com account, > > > > and no-ip.com emailed you to confirm that you do want the account. > > > > > > spam is like pollution in that (a) whenever you're not sure if you're > > > doing it, you probably are, and (b) if everybody did whatever it is, > > > life would be universally worse for, well, everybody. > > > > > > > Random disclaimer: Yes, we're a competitor of no-ip.com's... And yes, we > > > > used to send similar emails to people signing up for an account, > > > > although nowadays instead of sending them an initial password we send a > > > > confirm URL instead. > > > > > > that's the right approach. no-ip's problem was they presumed my permission. > > > > > > > You don't even have to be in the "big idiot" league to figure out that in > > both the "wrong" and the "right" approach as sanctioned above by a higher > > authority, an email message (aka spam) is sent to the presumed subscriber. > > > > One sends a password, one asks for permission to issue a password on their > > site. What's the difference in the annoy factor, if indeed one were to be > > subscribed by a secret "admirer"? > > > > Mr. Halmu chose to think, rather than bindly obey... > > > > --Mitch > > NetSide

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Re: ratios
by Dean S Moran 11 May '02

11 May '02

Peter Jansen wrote: >Scott: >Have a look at our peering policy at www.cw.com/peering. It will >provide you with some information on peering with large networks. This should read: "Have a look at our peering policy at www.cw.com/peering if you want to see a prime example of how *not* to develop your peering policy." Peter, I can't believe you have the testicular fortutude to come on this list with this garbage. Do you think we have forgotten the PSI/C&W peering fiasco? Dude, you had *paying* customers who depended on having routes into AS174, and you turned your back on them, knowing damn good and well that PSI was in no position to purchase transit. In fact, I'm surprised to see that you're still a C&W employee after all that mess. Plus, wtf is this clause about announcing 5000 routes? What a crock of s**t! This really encourages aggregation, doesn't it? You'd think, after all of the Exodus customers jumping ship after C&W bought them, that you'd start rethinking your business practices. People want, and are willing to pay for, a well connected network, and AS3561 isn't, at least not to the outside world. Also, I would like to point out that if you're mostly content, I doubt you'll ever be able to meet C&W's peering criteria because they have practically no eyeballs. Their wholesale dial division is pretty much extinct, and they seem to be leaning more toward hosting than selling T1s to mom and pop dialup ISPS. It's a great big catch-22 any way you look at it, and I hate you, Peter Jansen, for it. There's a special level of hell for people like you when you die. Dean >Regards > >Peter Jansen >Global Peering >Cable & Wireless > > > > > >Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 13:30 -0400 (EDT) >From: Scott Granados <scott(a)graphidelix.net> >To: nanog(a)merit.edu >Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu >Delivered-to: nanog-outgoing(a)trapdoor.merit.edu >Delivered-to: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu >Delivered-to: nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: ratios > > >I'm not overly familiar with this but I wondered if someone could detail >for me the basics of using ratios to determine elegibility to peer? I >have heard that some carrers especially the largest require a specific >ratio is this in fact true and is the logic as simple as just insuring >equal use of the peer? > >Thanks > >Scott _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com

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Re: Where did sbcglobal.net go?
by ren＠internet.rockstar.org 11 May '02

11 May '02

I think Len Rose also mentioned this morning that Network Solutions has an MX issue. Network Solutions is working on it, has been for several hours now. sbcglobal.net is being hard coded into our DNS servers so that the impact will be less severe to customers. Sorry Mike <G> -ren(a)sbc.com On Sat, 11 May 2002, "Michael L. Barrow" wrote > > > Does anyone know if SBC/PacBell dropped the sbcglobal.net domain name? Since > late yesterday, it's been gone from the root nameservers..... > > > $ dig @a.gtld-servers.net -t ns sbcbglobal.net > > ; <<>> DiG 9.2.0 <<>> @a.gtld-servers.net -t ns sbcbglobal.net > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 28110 > ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;sbcbglobal.net. IN NS > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > net. 86400 IN SOA A.GTLD-SERVERS.net. > NSTLD.VERISIGN-GRS.COM. 2002051100 1800 900 604800 86400 > > ;; Query time: 93 msec > ;; SERVER: 192.5.6.30#53(a.gtld-servers.net) > ;; WHEN: Sat May 11 10:08:16 2002 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 105 > -- > Michael L. Barrow <michael(a)mlbarrow.com> > P: 805-566-0885

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