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Abuse Ticketing Systems
by James Baldwin 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Are there any particularly useful ticketing systems for handling the sorts and volume of complaints an abuse desk sees? Currently my company has deployed Remedy internally and while it is particularly useful in managing work requests and our noc's incident response, it seems to be completely unsuited for our abuse desk needs. I've been recommended to Abacus and would be interested in anyone's experience with it. If someone has had a painless and successful experience using Remedy to handle abuse desk ticketing I'd love to hear a little about the overall engineering of the system to handle it. --- James Baldwin

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RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR
by Gyorfy, Shawn 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Well, we took out the 'service-policy output map' on the FE which took the interface from WFQ to FIFO. There hasn't been an output drop in 5hrs. Thanks, shawn -----Original Message----- From: Gyorfy, Shawn Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:13 AM To: 'Majid Farid'; Church, Chuck; jkreger(a)lwolenczak.net Subject: RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR The other side is an extreme summit 48 port switch. We took of Auto negotiate and hard set it to 100 Full. We swapped the Extreme, adjusted the buffers on the 7206, stopped using the FE on the board and used a card. I see a lot if discussion about FIFO and WFQ - that's the only thing we didn't do. I can't try it right now - I looked at different routers (1700s, 2600, and 3600s), and they have FIFO. buffers small permanent 420 buffers small max-free 534 buffers small min-free 79 buffers middle permanent 437 buffers middle max-free 558 buffers middle min-free 84 buffers big permanent 93 buffers big max-free 133 buffers big min-free 28 buffers verybig permanent 16 buffers verybig max-free 24 buffers verybig min-free 5 buffers large permanent 0 buffers large max-free 0 buffers large min-free 0 buffers huge permanent 0 buffers huge max-free 0 buffers huge min-free 0 -----Original Message----- From: Majid Farid [mailto:MajidFarid@telecomottawa.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:09 PM To: Church, Chuck; Gyorfy, Shawn; jkreger(a)lwolenczak.net Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR What is the other side set to? Is it FIFO or WFQ? Majid Farid ISP Specialist Telecom Ottawa Limited. majidfarid(a)telecomottawa.com [P] 613.225.4631 ext 7220 [F] 613.225.0636 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Church, Chuck Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:18 PM To: Gyorfy, Shawn; jkreger(a)lwolenczak.net Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR Isn't weighted fair queueing generally a bad idea on a LAN interface? Chuck Church Lead Design Engineer CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE Netco Government Services - Design & Implementation Team 1210 N. Parker Rd. Greenville, SC 29609 Home office: 864-335-9473 Cell: 703-819-3495 cchurch(a)netcogov.com PGP key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4371A48D -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Gyorfy, Shawn Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:49 AM To: 'jkreger(a)lwolenczak.net' Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR Yeah - we have traffic shaping: policy-map Outbound-Transmission-To-Core (We have 10) class Expedited-Forwarding-To-Core priority percent 50 class Hanover_13364_14025_37272-TS-To-Core shape average 1536000 192000 15000 class Queller_3266_3268_30989-TS-To-Core shape average 700000 87500 15000 . . . (10) FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is DEC21140A, address is 0001.636e.1c00 (bia 0001.636e.1c00) Description: Connected to Extreme Summit48 Internet address is MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 12/255, rxload 3/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:21, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:37:12 Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 5397 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/82/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) Available Bandwidth 25000 kilobits/sec 5 minute input rate 1505000 bits/sec, 979 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 5084000 bits/sec, 1590 packets/sec 2028319 packets input, 434456929 bytes Received 3 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 3453733 packets output, 1359654191 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Serial2/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is M1T-T3+ pa Description: ny-0200 V#51HFGL605916 (DS3 to 39 Broadway POP) Internet address is MTU 4470 bytes, BW 44210 Kbit, DLY 200 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 8/255, rxload 29/255 Encapsulation PPP, LCP Open Open: CDPCP, IPCP, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Restart-Delay is 0 secs Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:37:49 Input queue: 1/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/10/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) Available Bandwidth 11052 kilobits/sec 5 minute input rate 5029000 bits/sec, 1584 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 1437000 bits/sec, 966 packets/sec 3460149 packets input, 1351120603 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 parity 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 2005303 packets output, 418156501 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 applique, 0 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 0 carrier transitions rxLOS inactive, rxLOF inactive, rxAIS inactive txAIS inactive, rxRAI inactive, txRAI inactive -----Original Message----- From: jkreger(a)lwolenczak.net [mailto:jkreger@lwolenczak.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:55 AM To: Gyorfy, Shawn Subject: Re: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR Do you have any rate limiting on the Ethernet interface? The bus error.. I would say let cisco just replace your gear... that dosen't sound good. How is the bandwidth usage soo different? That dosen't sound right.... -Justin On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Gyorfy, Shawn wrote: > > What's up all, > > I have a question, maybe some have experienced this before- let me paint the > picture for you first - We are running VoIP- customer's are experiencing > static. > > I have a DS3 going for a Cisco 10k router to a Cisco 7206VXR M2T-T3+ pa > Interface. As of right now, the current usage is about 5.5Mbps with an > input rate of about 1425pps and output rate of 756. > > The Fast Ethernet is connected to an Extreme Switch. The FastE's usage > right now is about 20Mbps with an input rate of 868pps and an output of > 1541pps. > > On the FastE - we are seeing Output drops. They were at a constant > interval, when we were running IOS c7200-p-mz.123-9a. As per cisco, we > upgraded the IOS to c7200-p-mz.123-10 because of a possible buffer leak. > Rather than just upgrading the IOS on the current box, we swapped it out to > a new box and still recv output drops and Now the puppy decides to reboot > every 15 minutes returning a, "System returned to ROM by bus error at PC > 0x60132C44, address 0xE16E2CD at 13:38:47 UTC Tue Oct 26 2004" > > Questions: (a) What would be causing the output errors - can't the > processor and memory handle that? > (b) what is that bus error? > > > Thanks all, > > shawn. > > > > > >

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35th Anniversary of the Internet
by Scott Weeks 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Any NANOG folks here at UCLA's 35th Anniversary of the Internet symposium? If so, let's get together. It'd be fun. scott

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Table Analysis 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfs(a)cisco.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 30 Oct, 2004 Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 149062 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 88324 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 71592 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 18337 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 15924 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 7462 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2413 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 81 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.5 Max AS path length visible: 25 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 9 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 15 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 1346803852 Equivalent to 80 /8s, 70 /16s and 152 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 36.3 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 58.7 Percentage of available address space allocated: 61.9 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 68679 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 28920 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 14374 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 27079 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 14281 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2160 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 651 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 336 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.4 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 165552000 Equivalent to 9 /8s, 222 /16s and 31 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 75.5 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 23552-24575 APNIC Address Blocks 58/7, 60/7, 202/7, 210/7, 218/7, 220/7 and 222/8 ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 84508 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 51481 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 64697 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 23297 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 9639 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3468 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 932 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 4.3 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 234310400 Equivalent to 13 /8s, 247 /16s and 75 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 69.8 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647,29695-30719, 31744-33791 ARIN Address Blocks 24/8, 63/8, 64/6, 68/7, 70/7, 72/8, 198/7, 204/6, 208/7 and 216/8 RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 27855 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 19406 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 24718 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 16206 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 5967 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3209 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1020 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.1 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 25 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 174892160 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 108 /16s and 164 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 61.3 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-34815 RIPE Address Blocks 62/8, 80/5, 88/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/7, 212/7 and 217/8 LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 6541 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 2360 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 6360 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 3827 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 399 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 114 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 77 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.9 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 18 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 16371968 Equivalent to 0 /8s, 249 /16s and 209 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 48.8 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671 LACNIC Address Blocks 200/7 Emerging AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 1233 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 703 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 863 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 672 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 94 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 20 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 12 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.5 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 2069760 Equivalent to 0 /8s, 31 /16s and 149 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 12.3 AfriNIC AS Blocks <none> AfriNIC Address Blocks 196/8 APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4134 856 4407 163 Data Communications Bureau 1221 804 1183 578 Telstra Pty Ltd 4766 542 3407 266 Korea Internet Exchange for " 9583 539 41 105 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 4755 369 133 53 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Aut 17676 369 5516 54 XTAGE CORPORATION 2907 354 1857 328 SINET Japan 9443 353 69 79 Primus Telecommunications 9929 344 161 33 China Netcom Corp. 17557 320 23 160 Pakistan Telecom 703 316 346 244 UUNET 2764 283 273 231 connect.com.au pty ltd 7474 263 268 196 Optus Communications Pty Ltd 4802 234 28 142 Wantree Development 9942 234 72 125 COMindico Australia 9498 231 82 50 BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 9800 231 380 71 CHINA UNICOM 7563 225 48 162 Korea Internet Infrastructure 10036 209 19 190 C&M Communication Co. Ltd. 4814 206 232 6 China Telecom (Group) ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 7018 1433 6698 996 AT&T WorldNet Services 701 1211 8415 891 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 1239 928 2882 617 Sprint 2386 845 530 608 AT&T Data Communications Serv 6197 809 378 350 BellSouth Network Solutions, 4323 795 653 216 Time Warner Telecom 18566 750 208 6 Covad Communications 721 718 21015 296 DLA Systems Automation Center 209 644 3452 506 Qwest 3356 640 10955 445 Level 3 Communications, LLC 20115 568 430 305 Charter Communications 3561 560 2417 424 Cable & Wireless USA 852 514 1142 398 Telus Advanced Communications 7843 497 709 98 Adelphia Corp. 7132 449 8288 376 SBC Internet Services 705 436 163 276 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 6198 435 377 201 BellSouth Network Solutions, 6478 420 730 95 AT&T Worldnet Services 27364 413 36 19 Armstrong Cable Services 22909 408 843 57 Comcast Cable Corporation RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 702 633 2011 523 UUNET - Commercial IP service 3320 296 2485 233 Deutsche Telekom AG 8220 280 461 266 COLT Internet - International 3301 278 1100 268 TeliaNet Sweden 21502 261 40 3 NUMERICABLE is a cabled netwo 680 251 2025 239 DFN-IP service G-WiN 3246 219 477 215 Song Networks 13083 217 51 8 Mannesmann Datenverarbeitung 1257 208 743 180 SWIPnet Swedish IP Network 8708 205 114 183 Romania Data Systems S.A. 5515 193 842 141 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 786 176 1794 176 The JANET IP Service 6746 159 30 128 Dynamic Network Technologies, 3215 158 940 77 France Telecom Transpac 719 157 288 102 LANLINK autonomous system 8866 156 20 7 Bulgarian Telecommunication C 3269 149 1259 67 TELECOM ITALIA 25186 149 154 105 France Telecom Transpac's Tra 5400 148 207 119 BT Ignite European Backbone 3303 147 610 129 Swisscom Ltd LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6140 346 139 69 ImpSat 8151 308 455 134 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 16814 211 13 7 NSS, S.A. 11172 208 100 55 Servicios Alestra S.A de C.V 6147 182 94 20 Telefonica Del Peru 11664 164 12 35 Keytech SA 6505 137 90 94 Global One Communicaoes Ltda 7303 133 60 24 Telecom Argentina Stet-France 6503 123 164 84 AVANTEL, S.A. 11992 101 9 31 Integrated Systems 14117 98 6 4 Telefonica del Sur S.A. 11556 96 48 2 Cable-Wireless Panama 6535 86 7 20 Chilesat Servicios Empresari 11311 84 8 24 Sinectis S.A. 10481 81 32 7 Prima S.A. 4270 80 18 9 Red de Interconexion Universi 14420 80 5 33 ANDINATEL S.A. 14522 77 5 9 SatNet S.A. 15311 77 23 37 Telefonica Empresas 5639 75 8 8 Telecommunications Services o AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 3741 253 631 220 The Internet Solution 2905 114 276 83 The Internetworking Company o 5536 113 16 4 Internet Egypt Network 2018 101 297 97 Tertiary Education Network 20928 52 16 1 Noor Advanced Technologies AS 9129 33 3 4 UUNET Kenya 24835 33 34 7 RAYA Telecom - Egypt 6713 31 42 10 Itissalat Al-MAGHRIB 5713 26 125 24 Telkom SA Ltd 8524 25 1 4 AUCEGYPT Autonomous System 16637 22 10 19 Johnnic e-Ventures 10798 18 1 12 Standard Bank of South Africa 12258 18 3 12 Vodacom Internet Company 12455 17 4 2 Jambonet Autonomous system 8346 15 7 14 SONATEL-AS Autonomous System 15706 15 4 2 Sudatel Internet Exchange Aut 21280 14 2 3 Swift Global Kenya Ltd.Is an 15808 13 1 2 Communication Solutions Ltd i 17148 13 1 7 First National Bank 21491 13 1 3 UTL On-line is RF broadband I Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 18566 750 744 Covad Communications 4134 856 693 Data Communications Bureau 4323 795 579 Time Warner Telecom 6197 809 459 BellSouth Network Solutions, 9583 539 434 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 721 718 422 DLA Systems Automation Center 7843 497 399 Adelphia Corp. 27364 413 394 Armstrong Cable Services 5668 407 389 Century Telephone 22773 400 382 Cox Communications, Inc. Atla 6467 403 372 E.Spire Communications, Inc. 22909 408 351 Comcast Cable Corporation 6478 420 325 AT&T Worldnet Services 701 1211 320 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 4755 369 316 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Aut 17676 369 315 XTAGE CORPORATION 1239 928 311 Sprint 9929 344 311 China Netcom Corp. 4355 392 293 EarthLink, Inc. 6140 346 277 ImpSat List of Unregistered ASNs (Global) ---------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 64512 PRIVATE 62.58.1.0/27 13127 AS for the Trans-Eur 65006 PRIVATE 84.18.32.0/19 33831 * 65217 PRIVATE 192.102.236.0/24 217 University of Minnes 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.199.0/24 1876 Southern Methodist U 26422 UNALLOCATED 196.14.164.0/24 3741 The Internet Solutio 26422 UNALLOCATED 196.23.168.0/24 3741 The Internet Solutio 26422 UNALLOCATED 196.34.165.0/24 3741 The Internet Solutio 26422 UNALLOCATED 196.38.226.0/24 3741 The Internet Solutio 65000 PRIVATE 217.68.56.0/22 29263 HAAGnet, municipalit Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 132.0.0.0/10 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 137.0.0.0/13 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 158.0.0.0/13 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 192.44.0.0/19 702 UUNET - Commercial IP service 192.70.164.0/24 25689 National Research Council of 192.83.16.0/20 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.32.0/19 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.96.0/22 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.100.0/24 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.84.205.0/24 719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.119.135.0/24 270 NASA 192.135.50.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Services 192.136.79.0/24 719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.172.0.0/19 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 192.172.11.0/24 721 DLA Systems Automation Center Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:19 /9:3 /10:6 /11:15 /12:61 /13:137 /14:312 /15:555 /16:8107 /17:2273 /18:3902 /19:9762 /20:10381 /21:7938 /22:10967 /23:12668 /24:81178 /25:238 /26:225 /27:119 /28:52 /29:32 /30:82 /31:0 /32:30 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 18566 735 750 Covad Communications 6197 658 809 BellSouth Network Solutions, 2386 612 845 AT&T Data Communications Serv 7018 576 1433 AT&T WorldNet Services 27364 397 413 Armstrong Cable Services 702 386 633 UUNET - Commercial IP service 9583 376 539 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 1239 369 928 Sprint 4766 362 542 Korea Internet Exchange for " 5668 352 407 Century Telephone 701 348 1211 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 6198 316 435 BellSouth Network Solutions, 6467 302 403 E.Spire Communications, Inc. 6517 282 306 Yipes Communications, Inc. 20115 277 568 Charter Communications 9929 275 344 China Netcom Corp. 13609 266 309 Choice One Communications Inc 21502 258 261 NUMERICABLE is a cabled netwo 4323 256 795 Time Warner Telecom 25844 245 245 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 4:4 8:11 12:1436 13:1 15:5 16:2 17:3 20:5 24:746 32:67 33:2 38:80 40:55 44:3 47:2 52:3 55:1 56:3 57:20 60:3 61:603 62:497 63:1836 64:2450 65:2077 66:2461 67:442 68:537 69:748 70:33 72:2 80:504 81:543 82:304 83:193 84:49 128:124 129:165 130:82 131:184 132:34 134:185 135:19 136:187 137:56 138:182 139:38 140:185 141:108 142:123 143:69 144:159 145:42 146:294 147:94 148:328 149:110 150:94 151:65 152:140 153:68 154:2 155:126 156:58 157:67 158:131 159:163 160:61 161:71 162:377 163:79 164:215 165:158 166:119 167:221 168:342 169:121 170:294 171:9 192:5561 193:2917 194:2165 195:1506 196:593 198:3678 199:3292 200:3805 201:23 202:4923 203:5756 204:3467 205:2085 206:2251 207:2553 208:2133 209:3007 210:1499 211:635 212:1133 213:1213 214:129 215:30 216:3685 217:1047 218:175 219:79 220:271 221:65 222:22 End of report

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

This report has been generated at Fri Oct 29 21:44:27 2004 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 22-10-04 147143 100957 23-10-04 147080 101045 24-10-04 147052 101135 25-10-04 146983 101327 26-10-04 146887 101405 27-10-04 146993 101428 28-10-04 147056 101487 29-10-04 147101 101482 AS Summary 18271 Number of ASes in routing system 7448 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1412 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7018 : ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 86647552 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS721 : DNIC DoD Network Information Center Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 29Oct04 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 147034 101512 45522 31.0% All ASes AS18566 750 7 743 99.1% CVAD Covad Communications AS4134 825 178 647 78.4% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS4323 794 220 574 72.3% TWTC Time Warner Telecom AS7018 1412 981 431 30.5% ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services AS6197 806 422 384 47.6% BNS-14 BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS22773 400 18 382 95.5% CXA Cox Communications Inc. AS27364 413 35 378 91.5% ARMC Armstrong Cable Services AS22909 408 65 343 84.1% CMCS Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. AS701 1227 885 342 27.9% UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS6478 419 94 325 77.6% ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services AS1239 937 627 310 33.1% SPRN Sprint AS17676 367 63 304 82.8% JPNIC-JP-ASN-BLOCK Japan Network Information Center AS9929 335 33 302 90.1% CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp. AS4355 384 99 285 74.2% ERSD EARTHLINK, INC AS4766 527 266 261 49.5% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS21502 261 3 258 98.9% ASN-NUMERICABLE NUMERICABLE is a cabled network in France, AS14654 261 6 255 97.7% WAYPOR-3 Wayport AS9443 357 108 249 69.7% INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications AS6140 368 121 247 67.1% IMPSA ImpSat AS15557 338 104 234 69.2% LDCOMNET LDCOM NETWORKS AS25844 244 16 228 93.4% SASMFL-2 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP AS1221 809 582 227 28.1% ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd AS2386 843 617 226 26.8% ADCS-1 AT&T Data Communications Services AS22291 288 73 215 74.7% CC04 Charter Communications AS6198 429 219 210 49.0% BNS-14 BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS721 718 513 205 28.6% DNIC DoD Network Information Center AS4814 206 6 200 97.1% CHINA169-BBN CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Broadband Network AS3356 640 445 195 30.5% LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications AS5668 407 212 195 47.9% CIH-12 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. AS15270 225 39 186 82.7% PDP-14 PaeTec.net -a division of PaeTecCommunications, Inc. Total 16398 7057 9341 57.0% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.138.80.0/20 AS11260 AHSICHCL Andara High Speed Internet c/o Halifax Cable Ltd. 24.246.0.0/17 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.38.0/24 AS25994 NPGCAB NPG Cable, INC 24.246.128.0/18 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 60.248.0.0/16 AS3462 HINET Data Communication Business Group 64.46.27.0/24 AS8674 NETNOD-IX Netnod Internet Exchange Sverige AB 64.46.34.0/24 AS29393 CLUEFULCOLO-AS AS for Cluefulcolo.net 64.83.96.0/19 AS26956 NETFR NetFree Communications 64.127.0.0/18 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 69.26.32.0/19 AS17307 VIRTEL-15 Virtela Communications 132.0.0.0/10 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 137.0.0.0/13 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 138.136.0.0/13 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 158.0.0.0/13 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 192.30.93.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.94.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.127.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.40.105.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.44.0.0/19 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 192.70.164.0/24 AS25689 NRCC-2 National Research Council of Canada 192.81.182.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.81.183.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.81.184.0/24 AS719 LANLINK Elisa Oyj 192.119.135.0/24 AS270 NASA National Aeronautics and Space Administration 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.133.6.0/24 AS4004 GLOBALONE-EQUANT-UK Equant UK & Greece Autonomous System 192.135.50.0/24 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 192.153.144.0/21 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 192.172.0.0/19 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 192.188.208.0/20 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 192.243.32.0/23 AS2044 PALINA Palin Aquisitions Inc. 196.2.95.0/24 AS8668 TELONE-AS TelOne Zimbabwe P/L 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLAT-7 Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.97.72.0/21 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 198.97.80.0/20 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 198.97.88.0/24 AS89 NUSC-1 Naval Underwater Systems Center 198.97.240.0/20 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 198.97.247.0/24 AS3475 DEPART-52 Department of the Navy 198.101.4.0/22 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 198.136.32.0/20 AS19329 MCBCC Martin County Board of County Commissioners 198.144.32.0/19 AS3998 CITY CityNet, Inc. 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GTGR GT Group Telecom Services Corp. 198.161.165.0/24 AS852 AGTA Telus Advanced Communications 198.163.155.0/24 AS684 MRN Manitoba Regional Network 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INS-51 Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.167.163.0/24 AS15290 ACCA-2 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASK SaskTel 198.232.133.0/24 AS23075 SKOTOS Skotos Tech, Inc 199.10.0.0/16 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.60.0.0/20 AS271 UBC-3 University of British Columbia 199.96.44.0/23 AS19092 360NE-1 360Networks (USA) Inc. 199.96.46.0/24 AS19092 360NE-1 360Networks (USA) Inc. 199.114.0.0/18 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.114.0.0/21 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.128.0/18 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.130.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.134.0/24 AS1913 DLA-8 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.136.0/24 AS1913 DLA-8 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.138.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 DISAUN DISA/UNRRA 199.114.142.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS1913 DLA-8 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 ADP-41 AF DDN PMO 199.114.156.0/24 AS1913 DLA-8 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 ADP-41 AF DDN PMO 199.120.32.0/19 AS16582 NXLI NEXTLEVEL INTERNET, INC. 199.121.0.0/16 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.123.0.0/18 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.123.16.0/20 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.123.80.0/21 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST IQuest Internet 199.197.8.0/22 AS21814 PARSON-18 Parsons Corp. 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 202.47.1.0/24 AS7491 PI-PH-AS-AP PI-PHILIPINES 202.70.28.0/24 AS4515 ERX-STAR Star Internet Services Ltd. 202.73.128.0/22 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.93.0.0/20 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 202.133.3.0/24 AS9335 CIP-JAPAN-AS-AP ATT IPlus 202.164.224.0/19 AS7599 IPXC-AS-AP IP Exchange 203.32.4.0/23 AS7617 203.62.0.0/17 AS7572 AARNET-ACT-RNO Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.84.192.0/19 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 203.84.192.0/20 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 203.84.208.0/20 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 203.170.14.0/23 AS6648 ASN-SKYINTERNET ASs peering of Sky Internet 203.210.69.0/24 AS17536 PRODIGY-AS-AP Prodidgy Telecommunications 204.9.208.0/21 AS33133 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.194.110.0/23 AS30653 EXOBI Exobit Networks Inc. 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 206.167.57.0/24 AS376 RISQR-3 Reseau Interordinateurs Scientique Quebecois (RISQ) 206.191.64.0/18 AS15290 ACCA-2 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 206.251.69.0/24 AS27429 TIL-33 Telesat International Ltd. 206.253.190.0/23 AS8123 POLYBA Polybase 207.47.254.0/24 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETI NuNet Inc 208.81.187.0/24 AS19194 SNL-8 Sentris Network LLC 209.172.0.0/18 AS7770 TRTI Triton Technologies, Inc. 209.205.69.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.70.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.81.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.82.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.84.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.213.32.0/19 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.48.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.49.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.50.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.251.0.0/19 AS11036 SISCOM-1 SISCOM, Inc 216.37.110.0/23 AS4264 CERFN California Education and Research Federation Network 216.96.128.0/18 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 216.145.130.0/23 AS11937 TRXI TRX Inc. 216.145.132.0/22 AS11937 TRXI TRX Inc. 216.145.156.0/24 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.158.0/24 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.176.0/21 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.177.0/24 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.178.0/24 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.184.0/21 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.200.0/21 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.186.151.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.152.0/21 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.160.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.164.0/22 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.192.0/22 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.198.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.248.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org swinog(a)swinog.ch

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Routers for CO OOB management network
by james edwards 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

I need to select a router to install in each of our CO's to bring together a network of T-1 between our colos. This will be the primary network for management of our CBX'es, routers, 5ESS switches, and other gear. This network will be totally separate from our existing network. Here are my requirements: Must have: 2 ports T-1, integrated CSU/DSU 1 port Ethernet 1 DC power supply Only needs to support static routing Support for either PPP, FR or HDLC Management via telnet or web NEBS compliance Would be nice to have: A and B power supplies or at least ability to add second DC ps. Generally we would throw a Cisco 2600 at this but this is a waste of features that will never be used, so I am seeking something with a lower price point. Used is OK. Any ideas for the list for this ? James H. Edwards Routing and Security Administrator At the Santa Fe Office: Internet at Cyber Mesa jamesh(a)cybermesa.com noc(a)cybermesa.com http://www.cybermesa.com/ContactCM (505) 795-7101

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Final Stage: Early Registration Transfer Project (ERX)
by Paul Rendek 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

Dear Colleagues, The four Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) are about to enter the final stage of the Early Registration Transfer (ERX) project. This project is a coordinated effort to move whois records for address space registered before the advent of the RIRs to the whois database of the RIR in whose region the registrant is based. In this final stage of the project, whois records for registrations within 192.0.0.0/8 are being moved from the ARIN database. If you operate a network in 192.0.0.0/8 and have: - registration information in more than one RIR database, or - have a postal address that lies outside the RIR's service region you will receive a mail regarding its registration. The mail explains in which database we believe the registration is meant to reside. The message also explains how to indicate which contact information should be recorded. You can find out more about the ERX project at the following URLs: http://www.apnic.net/db/erx/ http://www.arin.net/registration/erx/ http://www.lacnic.net/en/erx.html http://www.ripe.net/projects/erx/ Regards, Paul Rendek Head of Member Services and Communications RIPE NCC

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Meeting Stats from Reston
by Susan Harris 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

Greetings - here's some information about our joint NANOG/ARIN meeting in Reston: ================================================================= NANOG 32/ARIN XIV October 17-22, 2004 Reston VA Hosts: AOL & Time Warner Cable Total NANOG Attendees: 600 Total ARIN Attendees: 185 NANOG ----- Women attending 8% Men attending 92% NAPs represented 13 Non-US/Canada attendees 86 Maximum concurrent RealMedia viewers: 93 Attendee occupation breakdown: ISPs/NetOps 50% Hardware vendors 17% Software vendors 2% R&E 11% Government 2% Consultant 4% Content 2% Other 12% SUPPORT FOR NANOG ----------------- Meeting coordination: Merit Network Squid, DNS, DHCP: Table23 Multicast: University of Oregon /IPv6 feed: Merit Sponsors: Arbinet, Arbor, Cariden, Cisco, Cloudshield, Foundry, Force10, Juniper, Packet Design

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RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR
by Gyorfy, Shawn 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

Yeah - we have traffic shaping: policy-map Outbound-Transmission-To-Core (We have 10) class Expedited-Forwarding-To-Core priority percent 50 class Hanover_13364_14025_37272-TS-To-Core shape average 1536000 192000 15000 class Queller_3266_3268_30989-TS-To-Core shape average 700000 87500 15000 . . . (10) FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is DEC21140A, address is 0001.636e.1c00 (bia 0001.636e.1c00) Description: Connected to Extreme Summit48 Internet address is MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 12/255, rxload 3/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:21, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:37:12 Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 5397 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/82/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) Available Bandwidth 25000 kilobits/sec 5 minute input rate 1505000 bits/sec, 979 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 5084000 bits/sec, 1590 packets/sec 2028319 packets input, 434456929 bytes Received 3 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 3453733 packets output, 1359654191 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Serial2/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is M1T-T3+ pa Description: ny-0200 V#51HFGL605916 (DS3 to 39 Broadway POP) Internet address is MTU 4470 bytes, BW 44210 Kbit, DLY 200 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 8/255, rxload 29/255 Encapsulation PPP, LCP Open Open: CDPCP, IPCP, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Restart-Delay is 0 secs Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:37:49 Input queue: 1/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/10/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) Available Bandwidth 11052 kilobits/sec 5 minute input rate 5029000 bits/sec, 1584 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 1437000 bits/sec, 966 packets/sec 3460149 packets input, 1351120603 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 parity 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 2005303 packets output, 418156501 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 applique, 0 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 0 carrier transitions rxLOS inactive, rxLOF inactive, rxAIS inactive txAIS inactive, rxRAI inactive, txRAI inactive -----Original Message----- From: jkreger(a)lwolenczak.net [mailto:jkreger@lwolenczak.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:55 AM To: Gyorfy, Shawn Subject: Re: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR Do you have any rate limiting on the Ethernet interface? The bus error.. I would say let cisco just replace your gear... that dosen't sound good. How is the bandwidth usage soo different? That dosen't sound right.... -Justin On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Gyorfy, Shawn wrote: > > What's up all, > > I have a question, maybe some have experienced this before- let me paint the > picture for you first - We are running VoIP- customer's are experiencing > static. > > I have a DS3 going for a Cisco 10k router to a Cisco 7206VXR M2T-T3+ pa > Interface. As of right now, the current usage is about 5.5Mbps with an > input rate of about 1425pps and output rate of 756. > > The Fast Ethernet is connected to an Extreme Switch. The FastE's usage > right now is about 20Mbps with an input rate of 868pps and an output of > 1541pps. > > On the FastE - we are seeing Output drops. They were at a constant > interval, when we were running IOS c7200-p-mz.123-9a. As per cisco, we > upgraded the IOS to c7200-p-mz.123-10 because of a possible buffer leak. > Rather than just upgrading the IOS on the current box, we swapped it out to > a new box and still recv output drops and Now the puppy decides to reboot > every 15 minutes returning a, "System returned to ROM by bus error at PC > 0x60132C44, address 0xE16E2CD at 13:38:47 UTC Tue Oct 26 2004" > > Questions: (a) What would be causing the output errors - can't the > processor and memory handle that? > (b) what is that bus error? > > > Thanks all, > > shawn. > > > > > >

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RE: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations?
by Jason Frisvold 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie Khanna - NextWeb [mailto:charlie@nextweb.net] > Subject: Network Monitoring System - Recommendations? > > Hi - I was interested in finding out what software applications other ISPs are > using for network monitoring? For example: > > 1) Overall network health - uptime reports > 2) Backup router config automatically > 3) Bandwidth reporting (or integration with an MRTG-type app) > 4) SNMP trap support (BGP/OSPF session drops - emails out) > 5) Database back end (port info into or over to other apps) I've been using Argus - http://argus.tcp4me.com I've found this program more and more useful as time goes on... This should fit in with every point except #5. But, of course, the data has to be stored somewhere, so it should be fairly trivial to either write a parser, or modify the source to use a database. At any rate, I really like this program, it works wonderfully. > I'm just looking for something well rounded for a small ISP. I've heard about > OpenNMS and other apps but I'd like to get everyone's feedback. Thanks! > > -Charlie

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