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a record?
by Randy Bush 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

for one host, 185,932 ssh dictionary password attacks in one gmt day (and, of course, password login is not enabled). randy

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SMS etc
by Jim McBurnett 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

Hello all, I apologize if this is deemed off topic, but I think there is enough content to warrant the question. Some time ago there was a lively discussion about SMS paging and the providers for that in relation to emergency operations NMS paging etc. Who can point me in the direction of the still serving providers and maybe give some color commentary on the SMS to SMTP or other paging methods many of you use to provide the paging of engineers? Please reply off list and if there is any interest I will summerize back to the list. Thanks, Jim

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

This report has been generated at Fri Nov 18 21:46:21 2005 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 11-11-05 175515 114822 12-11-05 172203 114836 13-11-05 172290 114870 14-11-05 172345 114990 15-11-05 172408 114745 16-11-05 172231 114790 17-11-05 172458 114872 18-11-05 172374 115063 AS Summary 20851 Number of ASes in routing system 8654 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1464 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7018 : ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 91322624 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS721 : DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 18Nov05 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 172494 114995 57499 33.3% All ASes AS4323 1187 236 951 80.1% TWTC - Time Warner Telecom AS18566 877 11 866 98.7% COVAD - Covad Communications AS721 1071 313 758 70.8% DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center AS4134 1021 275 746 73.1% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS22773 557 26 531 95.3% CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. AS7018 1464 954 510 34.8% ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services AS19916 563 65 498 88.5% ASTRUM-0001 - OLM LLC AS855 558 65 493 88.4% CANET-ASN-4 - Canadian Research Network AS3602 542 104 438 80.8% SPRINT-CA-AS - Sprint Canada Inc. AS6197 960 561 399 41.6% BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS17676 470 101 369 78.5% JPNIC-JP-ASN-BLOCK Japan Network Information Center AS11492 604 249 355 58.8% CABLEONE - CABLE ONE AS812 367 30 337 91.8% ROGERS-CABLE - Rogers Cable Inc. AS6467 389 56 333 85.6% ESPIRECOMM - e.spire Communications, Inc. AS4755 607 275 332 54.7% VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System AS4766 610 287 323 53.0% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS15270 338 25 313 92.6% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec.net -a division of PaeTecCommunications, Inc. AS9583 827 520 307 37.1% SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited AS14654 292 6 286 97.9% WAYPORT - Wayport AS17488 366 83 283 77.3% HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over Cable Internet AS9498 395 117 278 70.4% BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. AS5668 476 211 265 55.7% AS-5668 - CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. AS9929 315 53 262 83.2% CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp. AS6167 324 63 261 80.6% CELLCO-PART - Cellco Partnership AS1239 845 600 245 29.0% SPRINTLINK - Sprint AS18101 268 23 245 91.4% RIL-IDC Reliance Infocom Ltd Internet Data Centre, AS2386 926 694 232 25.1% INS-AS - AT&T Data Communications Services AS6140 423 192 231 54.6% IMPSAT-USA - ImpSat AS19115 258 27 231 89.5% CHARTER-LEBANON - Charter Communications AS16852 278 50 228 82.0% FOCAL-CHICAGO - Focal Data Communications of Illinois Total 18178 6272 11906 65.5% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.246.0.0/17 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.78.0/24 AS25994 NPG-001 - NPG Cable, INC 24.246.128.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 64.17.32.0/24 AS13488 CBWU-13488 - Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited 64.17.33.0/24 AS13488 CBWU-13488 - Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited 64.17.37.0/24 AS13488 CBWU-13488 - Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited 64.38.96.0/19 AS19654 HOSTING-NETWORK - HOSTING-NETWORK, INC. 64.66.32.0/20 AS18864 STARTEC - Startec Global Communications 64.66.32.0/22 AS18864 STARTEC - Startec Global Communications 64.66.34.0/23 AS18864 STARTEC - Startec Global Communications 64.127.128.0/17 AS19654 HOSTING-NETWORK - HOSTING-NETWORK, INC. 66.11.32.0/20 AS6261 VISINET - Visionary Systems, Inc. 66.11.224.0/20 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 66.37.96.0/20 AS3764 IA-HOU-AS - Internet America, Inc. 66.51.134.0/24 AS29876 LNTC - Latency LLC 66.96.0.0/20 AS3770 WORLDPATH-AS - WorldPath Internet Services 66.117.0.0/19 AS30033 NHI-NETWORKS - NHI Networks 66.117.0.0/21 AS30033 NHI-NETWORKS - NHI Networks 66.117.8.0/24 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 66.117.23.0/24 AS31972 EMGINECONCEPT-01 - Emagine Concept, Inc. 66.117.25.0/24 AS31972 EMGINECONCEPT-01 - Emagine Concept, Inc. 66.117.26.0/24 AS31972 EMGINECONCEPT-01 - Emagine Concept, Inc. 66.117.27.0/24 AS31972 EMGINECONCEPT-01 - Emagine Concept, Inc. 66.186.192.0/19 AS19654 HOSTING-NETWORK - HOSTING-NETWORK, INC. 66.187.96.0/24 AS10026 ANC Asia Netcom Corporation 66.187.108.0/24 AS10026 ANC Asia Netcom Corporation 66.187.109.0/24 AS10026 ANC Asia Netcom Corporation 66.216.0.0/18 AS19654 HOSTING-NETWORK - HOSTING-NETWORK, INC. 66.235.158.0/23 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 85.129.3.0/24 AS14585 CIFNET - CIFNet, Inc. 85.129.4.0/24 AS14585 CIFNET - CIFNet, Inc. 90.192.0.0/16 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS Project. 90.255.248.0/21 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS Project. 91.192.0.0/16 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS Project. 91.255.248.0/21 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS Project. 125.213.0.0/16 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 131.64.0.0/12 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 131.68.128.0/19 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 131.68.160.0/19 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 131.68.192.0/19 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 132.0.0.0/10 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 137.0.0.0/13 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 138.136.0.0/13 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 151.135.0.0/16 AS4763 TELSTRANZ-AS TelstraClear Ltd 158.0.0.0/13 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 163.142.0.0/16 AS2500 JPNIC-ASBLOCK-AP JPNIC 192.30.93.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.94.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.40.105.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.43.230.0/24 AS7575 AARNET-AS-AP Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 192.44.0.0/19 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 192.44.0.0/24 AS5501 FRAUNHOFER-CLUSTER-BW Fraunhofer Gesellschaft 192.70.164.0/24 AS25689 NRCNET-AS - National Research Council of Canada 192.72.0.0/16 AS4780 SEEDNET Digital United Inc. 192.72.0.0/18 AS4780 SEEDNET Digital United Inc. 192.72.192.0/18 AS4780 SEEDNET Digital United Inc. 192.81.182.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.81.183.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.81.184.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.88.99.0/24 AS559 SWITCH SWITCH, Swiss Education and Research Network 192.96.36.0/24 AS5713 AFRINIC African Network Information Center 192.96.37.0/24 AS10474 AFRINIC African Network Information Center 192.96.135.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 192.96.136.0/23 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 192.96.140.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 192.96.143.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 192.96.145.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 192.96.177.0/24 AS6083 AFRINIC African Network Information Center 192.96.250.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 192.107.104.0/24 AS6458 GUATEL 192.119.135.0/24 AS270 PSCNI-AS - National Aeronautics and Space Administration 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.133.6.0/24 AS10282 EQUANT-CEEUR EQUANT AS for Central and Eastern Europe region 192.136.53.0/24 AS8346 SONATEL-AS Autonomous System 192.153.144.0/21 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 192.172.0.0/19 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 192.188.208.0/20 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 193.32.19.0/24 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 193.32.20.0/23 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 193.36.1.0/24 AS8220 COLT COLT Telecommunications 193.37.69.0/24 AS2856 BT-UK-AS BTnet UK Regional network 193.37.236.0/24 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 193.110.77.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 193.110.78.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 193.110.79.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 193.110.97.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 193.203.32.0/22 AS6666 CARRIER24-AS Headlight Housing Factory GmbH 194.31.227.0/24 AS21461 TRANSFAIRNET Transfair-net GmbH Krefeld 194.32.174.0/23 AS8426 CLARANET-AS ClaraNET 194.59.176.0/20 AS1273 CW Cable & Wireless 194.59.178.0/24 AS8481 TRANSNET transnet INTERNET Services 194.153.156.0/24 AS24865 KMITCHELL-AS Keith Mitchell's Network 194.246.72.0/23 AS8893 ARTFILES-AS Artfiles New Media GmbH 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLATLANTIC-COM - Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.54.82.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 198.54.92.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 198.54.222.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 198.54.249.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 198.54.250.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 198.54.251.0/24 AS2018 TENET - 1 - The Uninet Project 198.97.72.0/21 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.80.0/20 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.96.0/19 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.240.0/20 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.247.0/24 AS3475 LANT-AFLOAT - Department of the Navy 198.101.4.0/22 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 198.136.32.0/20 AS19329 MCNET - Martin County Board of County Commissioners 198.160.171.0/24 AS7046 UUNET-CUSTOMER - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GROUPTLCOM - GT Group Telecom Services Corp. 198.163.155.0/24 AS684 MTSAL-ASN - MTS Allstream Inc. 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INTERHOP - Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.167.163.0/24 AS15290 ALLST-15290 - Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASKTEL - SaskTel 198.232.133.0/24 AS23075 SKOTOS-AS - Skotos Tech, Inc 199.9.128.0/17 AS668 ASN-ASNET-NET-AS - Defense Research and Engineering Network 199.10.0.0/16 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.60.0.0/20 AS271 BCNET-AS - University of British Columbia 199.114.0.0/21 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.128.0/18 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.130.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.131.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.134.0/24 AS3541 ITSDN-U4 - DISA/UNRRA 199.114.136.0/24 AS27044 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.138.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 ITSDN-U7 - DISA/UNRRA 199.114.142.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS27033 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.153.0/24 AS27034 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.120.32.0/19 AS16582 NEXTLEVELINTERNET - NEXTLEVEL INTERNET, INC. 199.121.0.0/16 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.0.0/18 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.16.0/20 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.80.0/21 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS - DoD Network Information Center 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST-AS - IQuest Internet 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 199.246.116.0/24 AS813 UUNET-AS1 - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 200.49.8.0/21 AS6140 IMPSAT-USA - ImpSat 202.58.113.0/24 AS19161 INNOCOM-TELECOM - INNOCOM TELECOM 202.86.252.0/22 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.253.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.254.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.255.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.90.33.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.40.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.41.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.42.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.43.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.44.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.46.0/23 AS17747 ZIML-AP ZEE INTERACTIVE MUTIMEDIA LTD., BANGALORE 202.93.0.0/20 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 202.131.64.0/19 AS9381 NEWTT-IP-AP Wharf T&T Ltd. 203.13.171.0/24 AS1221 ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd 203.62.0.0/17 AS7575 AARNET-AS-AP Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.78.48.0/20 AS9299 IPG-AS-AP Philippine Long Distance Telephone Company 203.89.133.0/24 AS15412 FLAG-AS Flag Telecom Global Internet AS 203.89.134.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.138.0/24 AS9237 HUTCHCA-AS Corporate Access (HK) Ltd. 203.89.139.0/24 AS17911 BRAINPK-AS-AP Brain Telecommunication Ltd. 203.89.143.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.144.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.145.0/24 AS4637 REACH Reach Network Border AS 203.89.146.0/24 AS4637 REACH Reach Network Border AS 203.89.147.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.148.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.149.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.150.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.151.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.153.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.154.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.158.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.89.159.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 203.99.0.0/19 AS17746 ORCONINTERNET-NZ-AP Orcon Internet 203.99.142.0/24 AS9826 ILINK-HK-AP iLink.net Ltd 203.111.192.0/20 AS7473 SINGTEL-AS-AP Singapore Telecom 203.210.69.0/24 AS17536 PRODIGY-AS-AP Prodidgy Telecommunications 204.48.118.0/23 AS29912 CITIZENS-PROPERTY-INSURANCE-CORPORATION - Citizens Property Insurance Corporation 204.48.119.0/24 AS29912 CITIZENS-PROPERTY-INSURANCE-CORPORATION - Citizens Property Insurance Corporation 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 ALTERNET-AS - UUNET Technologies, Inc. 206.108.96.0/19 AS577 BACOM - Bell Advanced Communications Inc. 206.128.104.0/21 AS11709 VIC - VIRTUAL INTERACTIVE CENTER 206.167.57.0/24 AS376 RISQ-AS - Reseau Interordinateurs Scientique Quebecois (RISQ) 206.191.64.0/18 AS15290 ALLST-15290 - Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 206.191.96.0/19 AS15290 ALLST-15290 - Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETPA - NuNet Inc 208.138.48.0/20 AS6971 ESCH - Eschelon Telecommunications, Inc. 209.40.192.0/21 AS6487 CyberNet de Guatemala S.A. 209.40.200.0/21 AS6487 CyberNet de Guatemala S.A. 209.40.208.0/21 AS6487 CyberNet de Guatemala S.A. 209.40.216.0/21 AS6487 CyberNet de Guatemala S.A. 209.112.224.0/20 AS19817 DSLEXTREME - DSL Extreme 209.205.69.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.70.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.81.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.82.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.84.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.234.0.0/18 AS3845 STATE-NET - CS&W, Inc. 209.251.0.0/19 AS11036 SISCOM - SISCOM, Inc 216.37.110.0/23 AS4264 CERNET-ASN-BLOCK - California Education and Research Federation Network 216.82.160.0/20 AS20481 CALYX-NL Calyx Internet B.V. Netherlands 216.96.128.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.178.37.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.178.39.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.178.42.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.178.43.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.228.64.0/21 AS6295 WHIDBEY1 - Whidbey Internet Services 216.228.224.0/20 AS13674 VRIS-AS-BLOCK-13661-13675 - Verizon Internet Services 216.240.240.0/20 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.240.242.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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ML Admin Panel
by Randy Bush 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

you may remember that steve gibbard asked to step down from the nanog mailing list admin panel. two weeks ago, the steering committee, with the ml panel, issued a call for volunteers to replace steve. the deadline was today. there were four volunteers, all of whom deserve our thanks for offering to serve, and in a difficult and rarely pleasant role at that. they were David Barak <thegameiam(a)yahoo.com> Marlon Borba <mborba(a)trf3.gov.br> Josh Richesin <jrichesin(a)bendbroadband.net> Stephen Wilcox <steve(a)telecomplete.net> the sc invited the ml panel to our semi-weekly conference call to get their input on the candidates. all ml panel attended except one. the ml panel then left the call, and the steering committee discussed qualifications in general (see appended), the candidates, the ml panel recommendations, and made our decision. stephen wilcox has been asked to serve on the ml admin panel replacing steve gibbard. stephen, thanks for volunteering. the sc, and probably nanog as a whole, deeply appreciates the willingness of all of the volunteers to serve. we hope those not chosen will come back next time. considering the onerous nature of the job, this may be sooner than we all might wish. and steve gibbard, you have been a hero. you were a calm and helpful presence in the nanog evolution process, and then worked long and patiently on the ml panel. we all really owe you deep and wide thanks for your work. randy, for the sc --- interesting and relevant excerpt from the *draft* minutes of today's sc conf call o ML Panel Candidate choice after ML Panel left call It was discussed whether the position should be filled by someone from other than North America. It was generally felt that NANOG is open to all and all should be able to be represented. All should be encouraged to participate in all committees and be judged on the merit of their contributions not where they reside. There was discussion of whether such positions should require having attended NANOG meetings, but rather be on merit and contribution to and understanding of the culture. -30-

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Network Access Solutions -- Anything left of them
by John Palmer 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Does anyone know if there is anything left of Network Access Solutions (NASC.OB)? I know DSL.NET bought their DSL customer base, but are they still around doing something else?

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RE: Someone from nic.net registrar please contact me off-list
by Hannigan, Martin 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

> > Thanks > Evaldo Gardenali You know, if people are going to post here as a paging service, it would be nice to put some indication as to why - perhaps the rest of us can assist more quickly? 9 times out of 10 we can since it's usually operator/user error and not necessarily the providers issue. At least that's my experience with "$doofus to the white lobby phone". YMMV. -M<

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IAB and "private" numbering
by Tony Tauber 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi Dave, In response to your request for more interaction w/the IAB, here's a peeve I've been developing lately and perhaps this outlet might be appropriate for it. There are some resources, like IP addresses and AS numbers, the proper operation of which hinges on their uniqueness. Generally, people seem to understand that it's only their uniqueness within a domain that is required; however, there is no telling when domains which may not be connected may become so in the future. RFC1918 has definitely caused problems for me personally many times and I feel certain the experience is far from rare. I'm not saying that reserved numbers for private uses aren't needed. There are still labs and other example configurations where they might be of use. RFC1918 might seem to alleviate some operational problems but it certainly creates many others. The registries (including IANA as their root) should provide just that, a place to register the use of number resources to avoid collisions. I'm thinking that "private" number spaces should probably be used advisedly if not deprecated outright. I could add more detail if desired for the sake of clarity. I'd like to see some acknowledgement that there are legitimate uses of number resources that don't include "the public Internet". IAB should perhaps claim to the Architecture of "TCP/IP protocol technology" or however it would be best construed to convey that these technologies are used outside "the [public] Internet" and that their integrity and viability needs to be protected broadly. Does this concern make sense? Does this course of action make sense? Is there a(nother) better venue than the IAB? What do people think? Tony ps. My goal is not to inflame, merely to discuss and educate.

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RE: Issue AS and Subnet Announcment on BGP - Conflict with a major TelCO - 30h+ of route flapping unresolved
by Geoff Huston 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Normally I'm rather loathe to send urls around - but in this case you may find this APNIC work directly relevant to what you are asking for: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-51/presentations/pdf/ripe51-address-… I also did some work a year or so back on the differences between announced vs allocated prefixes. http://www.potaroo.net/presentations/2004-05-01-allocation-vs-announcement.… At the time (May 2004) it appeared that the message was getting through and the fragmentation of allocations was decreasing. I have not re-reun the scripts recently to confirm if this is wtill the case. regards, Geoff At 05:06 AM 17/11/2005, Bora Akyol wrote: >Maybe they should? > >Or at least provide a database that is signed so that people can check >what is getting announced vs what was really allocated at least off >line. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of >Charles Gucker >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:06 PM >To: Alain Hebert >Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Re: Issue AS and Subnet Announcment on BGP - Conflict with a >major TelCO - 30h+ of route flapping unresolved > ><snip> >..... > > > ARIN will not step in here. They allocate resources, they do >not police or enforce those resources. > >charles

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the future of the net
by Randy Bush 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8673

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Re: the future of the net
by Robert Mathews 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Bubba Parker wrote: > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:33:17 -0600 > From: Bubba Parker <sysadmin(a)citynetwireless.net> > To: bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com > Cc: Gordon Cook <cook(a)cookreport.com>, Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com>, > nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: the future of the net > > > Seems to be back up now. > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 03:17:45AM +0000, bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > > > > and it still is in mine!!!! the print edition doesn't have > > clickable links, but is also a fine resource. > > > > --bill The URL http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8673 now leads to the following message: "Linux Journal Is Currently Unavailable Due to a Denial of Service (DoS) Attack Sorry for any inconvenience." That's intriguing ...

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