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Re: Middle Eastern Exchange Points
by Aaron Glenn 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

On 2/7/06, Howard C. Berkowitz <hcb(a)gettcomm.com> wrote: > > I know of a Cairo IXP, and possibly one in the UAE. Is there one in > Kuwait as yet? http://www.emix.net.ae/ it's flash heavy fyi

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RE: Did anyone else notice the CAIDA skitter poster in the background of George Bush's speech at the NSA?
by Barry Greene (bgreene) 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Maybe now the US Gov can open their pocket book and pay for Skitter? :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Hannigan [mailto:hannigan@renesys.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:55 PM > To: Etaoin Shrdlu > Cc: Barry Greene (bgreene) > Subject: Re: Did anyone else notice the CAIDA skitter poster > in the background of George Bush's speech at the NSA? > > At 06:02 PM 2/5/2006, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > >Joe McGuckin wrote: > > > >>http://tinyurl.com/doy6r > > > > > >Um... (noticed on other lists, by the way) > > > >http://securitywizardry.com/radar.htm > > > > > > I like the skitter chart, but at the Vegas NANOG, Barry > Greene disclaimed it and said it was "out of date". I hope > the NSA is using up to date data. It would be horrific if > they weren't. > > > > > Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 > Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574 > Member of the Technical Staff Network Operations > hannigan(a)renesys.com >

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RE: Triple Play [was: CAUTION: Potentially Dumb Question...]
by Bora Akyol 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

I think the main challenge in making this type of media distribution a reality is not the technology, we mostly know how to make it work. The real challenge is the content owners' willingness to make the content available while preserving their IP rights. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On > Behalf Of Christian Kuhtz > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:46 AM > To: Sean Donelan > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Triple Play [was: CAUTION: Potentially Dumb Question...] > > > > On Feb 7, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Christian Kuhtz wrote: > >> If you're near real time, you have lots of options actually. And I > >> would contend that p2p can be efficient for broadcast distribution > >> actually. There already are several startups doing > exactly that for > >> large scalability. > > > > Yep. Lots of startups have lots of ideas. If you are selling > > hammers, you can use the same hammer for lots of projects. But I'm > > not a true believer in the hammer religion. > > Argh. What I'm saying is that this is being worked on. And > I know from the research perspective in a previous life that > it can be made work. The fact that startups are working on > commercializing wasn't supposed to suggest viability (it > never does), but that products are on the way to market. I > have my confirmation of viability of the concept from a > different background altogether and I don't subscribe to > startup=viability for anything. > > >

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RE: Triple Play [was: CAUTION: Potentially Dumb Question...]
by Bora Akyol 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

> > He hasn't taken broadcast TV delivery into account in the > Triple Play scenario. You gotta plumb them packets good for that... I don't watch anything live anymore, all via Tivo. If Tivo could do bittorrent and download the content, then would I need broadcast? TV model is going to change significantly in the next 3-5 years. Bora

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LCP Echo in Cisco Environment
by Ronald W. Jean Jr. 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Good day all, I am curious if anyone is familiar with the role of LCP echo requests in Mobile IP environments to maintain session activity. Specifically, I am wondering does anyone have familiarity with the Cisco CSG (billing) and its ability if any to interpret that traffic. Thanks Ron Jean Miller Technologies Group LLC

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Triple Play [was: CAUTION: Potentially Dumb Question...]
by Scott Weeks 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

: * Date: Mon Feb 06 15:34:00 2006 : : > I'm interested in responses to this ... MPLS is : > still a four letter word .. :) : : <http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2006-02/converged.html> "By any accounts peer-to-peer file sharing has taken over the Internet...one reasonable conclusion is that real time content delivery, or Triple Play time, is over BitTorrent has won over the user!" "todays carrier is being pushed into the role of packet plumber...It would appear that want customers want today is for packet carriers to stick to the basics" He hasn't taken broadcast TV delivery into account in the Triple Play scenario. You gotta plumb them packets good for that... scott

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On the inoc-dba subject
by Joe Maimon 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

Is it really cluefull to have this paragraph? " Please make sure that your spam filters allow email from "pch.net" before you sign up, since we will need to automatically verify your email address. " Since we all know that whitelisting and blacklisting by in-band stated "from" email address is quite wrong-headed, from a clue standpoint. Perhaps something like this? " Please make sure that your spam filters allow email sent from <ip-addresses> with a from address of pch.net before you sign up, since we will need to automatically verify your email address. " Where <ip-addresses> is the output of a dig command against the outgoing smtp servers sending the notifications? In general, ML and other automated email things should have a way to display the bounce to the user, which would mean storing it for some small period of time. Otherwise it becomes rather difficult to do the right thing filtering wise. (Google seems to do this for their notifications that get 45x/55x) Joe

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Lightning Talks at NANOG 36
by Steve Feldman 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

We have reserved one hour of the NANOG 36 agenda for "Lightning Talks". A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. Signups for lightning talks will be accepted during the NANOG meeting. The Program Committee will accept relevant talks until all the slots are filled. (Details will be announced during the meeting.) Use of slides is optional. Any slides must be in PDF or Powerpoint format, and will be loaded in advance onto the speaker laptop on the podium. There is a good overview of the use of lightning talks at the Perl coference at: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/07/30/lightningtalk.html Although their format is slightly different, many of their ideas will apply here. Looking forward to seeing you in Dallas, Steve Feldman PC Chair

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CAIDA analysis on CME-24/BlackWorm
by Gadi Evron 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

The analysis can be found here: http://www.caida.org/analysis/security/blackworm/ As usual, CAIDA's people have done amazing work. Gadi.

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NetFlow tools?
by Wil Schultz 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

I'm planning to set up NetFlow in my environment within the next few weeks, so far two suites that look promising to me are "flow-tools" and "SiLK". Anyone have any input on which would be better to use (or maybe some other product)? -Wil

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