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Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent
by Scott Weeks 14 May '08

14 May '08

--- nanog(a)daork.net wrote: From: Nathan Ward <nanog(a)daork.net> Ask for a v6 roadmap. Last time I looked (~ a year ago) there were some strange limitations, for example, a surprisingly small max v6 routing table. ----------------------------------- <vendor ears == ON> Hopefully... ;-) I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to pay an order of magnitude more for an IOM. scott -------------------------------

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[NANOG] Linkedin
by Felix Bako 14 May '08

14 May '08

Hi Guyz, anyone from linkedin please contact me off list as we have not been able to open the website www.linkedin.com for sometime now!! Thanks -- Regards, Felix Bako *Team Leader, Networks* Africa Online, Kenya Tel: +254 (20) 27 92 245 Fax: +254 (20) 27 100 10 Email: fbako(a)africaonline.co.ke AIM: felixbako * * A member of the Telkom South Africa Group* * *Africa Online Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note * This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Africa Online Holdings (Kenya) Limited and / or its subsidiaries ("the Group"). It is confidential and intended for the addressee only. Should you not be the addressee and have received this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, delete this e-mail immediately and do not disclose or use the same in any manner whatsoever. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of the Group. The Group accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages, however incurred, resulting from the use of this e-mail or its attachments. The Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail, nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. For more information about Africa Online, please visit our website at www.africaonline.co.ke

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[NANOG] [NANOG-announce] Call for Volunteers for the NANOG Mailing List Committee
by Philip Smith 14 May '08

14 May '08

Hello everyone, The NANOG Mailing List Committee is a group of individuals from the NANOG community who collectively are responsible for ensuring the functioning of the NANOG mailing list as an effective resource for the operations community. The Steering Committee would like to hear from people who are interested in joining the team, volunteering their time and energy to help make the NANOG mailing list better. We are looking for people who care about the NANOG mailing list, who are keen readers of the list, and who have a thorough understanding of NANOG culture. If this sounds like you, we would like to encourage you to volunteer to serve on the committee. As per 7.1.2 of the Charter, the Mailing List Committee must have a minimum of four members. Therefore four positions are available, two positions with terms up for renewal at the end of NANOG 44 in October 2008, and two positions with terms up for renewal at the end of NANOG 47 in October 2009. To volunteer, please send your expression of interest to <steering(a)nanog.org> containing a brief summary of how you think the NANOG list could be better, how you think you could help make a difference, and which term length you'd like to serve. The deadline for responses is by the end of 23rd May 2008, and we plan to select the new Mailing List Committee by the end of the following week. Many thanks! philip (for the SC) _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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Re: [NANOG] Alcatel
by Scott Weeks 14 May '08

14 May '08

--- bedard.phil(a)gmail.com wrote: I'll chime in and say that the 7450/7750 are very nice boxes. Their non-stop routing feature is something that other vendors are barely starting to support, years after they started doing it. Now they are ----------------------------------------------- This IS a very nice feature and works well. A cisco terminal server was sending lots of random data (well not so random, it looked like it was sending a MOTD) to the console on a couple of 7x50s, which caused the CPMs to reset repeatedly, but still no packets were lost. Very cool! scott ---------------------------

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Re: [NANOG] Alcatel
by Neil J. McRae 13 May '08

13 May '08

The Alcatel 7750 is the best MPLS edge box period. It blows away the traditional competition by a country mile. The quality of the product is really superb. Imagine life is a software release when on completion of your own type approval the software does what it says on the tin? Not even minor bugs -> no bugs nada ziltch negatory nien etc. That life starts when you buy the 7750. The former Timetra team (and the new ALU people) are an excellent bunch of guys to work with. They listen and act but at the same time won't sacrafice the quality of the platform. And if you are still unsure I strongly recommend this box. Neil. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Snyder <snyder(a)fusion-networks.com> Sent: 13 May 2008 18:16 To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: [NANOG] Alcatel Anyone use Alcatel switches in their network...like the 6850 omniswitch? What are your thoughts on them? What about Alcatel's MPLS edge routers like the 7x50 products that came from Timetra...anyone have any experience with them? Are they a good product? Thanks, Dan _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Re: [NANOG] Alcatel
by Scott Weeks 13 May '08

13 May '08

-----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley <jabley(a)ca.afilias.info> On 13 May 2008, at 14:22, Scott Weeks wrote: > puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp <https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/alcatel-nsp>, I think. There are some archives, but it's not what I would call a busy list. --------------------------------- --- neil(a)domino.org wrote: From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil(a)domino.org> Not many problems to talk about :) ------------------------------------ Not problems, rather strange things I see in the logs and other different things. I'll post over there as soon as things slow down a bit at work. scott -------------------------------

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Re: [NANOG] Alcatel
by Scott Weeks 13 May '08

13 May '08

------ neil(a)domino.org wrote: ------- ...Not even minor bugs -> no bugs nada ziltch negatory nien etc. -------------------------------------- I could not agree with this statement. I recall a bug or two, but we've not been using them for over a year, so I can't speak to the long term. --------------------------------------- That life starts when you buy the 7750. The former Timetra team (and the new ALU people) are an excellent bunch of guys to work with. They listen and act but at the same time won't sacrafice the quality of the platform.... --------------------------------------- I CAN agree that most of the ALU guys are a great bunch, but like anywhere else, some are only mediocre. scott ----------------------------------

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Re: [NANOG] Alcatel
by Scott Weeks 13 May '08

13 May '08

--- snyder(a)fusion-networks.com wrote: From: "Dan Snyder" <snyder(a)fusion-networks.com> Anyone use Alcatel switches in their network...like the 6850 omniswitch? What are your thoughts on them? What about Alcatel's MPLS edge routers like the 7x50 products that came from Timetra...anyone have any experience with them? Are they a good product? -------------------------------------------------- We're using the 7x50s for the core and 7710s for border routers. I'd be happy to discuss. However, there is a list for Alcatel: puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp I've been on it for a couple of months, but I have yet to see an email from it. I have been wanting to get discussion going there, so let's take the conversation there. scott ------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NANOG] Alcatel
by Neil J. McRae 13 May '08

13 May '08

Not many problems to talk about :) -----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley <jabley(a)ca.afilias.info> Sent: 13 May 2008 19:28 To: surfer(a)mauigateway.com Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel On 13 May 2008, at 14:22, Scott Weeks wrote: > puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp <https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/alcatel-nsp>, I think. There are some archives, but it's not what I would call a busy list. Joe _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG(a)nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

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Re: [NANOG] Comcast latency
by Tim Thompson 13 May '08

13 May '08

> Tim Thompson wrote: >> Here, in New England, I normally see 20% packet loss between Comcast >> and Level3 in NewYork using MTR. It has been as high as 60% in the >> past so this is an improvement. >> James Michael Keller wrote: > Remember that a number of ISP's 'core' routers are going to have ICMP > rate limits in place when one of their interfaces is the target. While > you may see high packet loss across an ISP link, unless you are getting > similar numbers from all hops past that point you aren't looking at real > packet loss, since the transit packets are getting through fine. It's > just the routers themselves that are ignoring requests or discarding > responses in favor of pushing routed packets. Yes, the routers after Level3's edge router don't show similar packet loss, so this must be the edge router just de-prioritizing ICMP. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. -Tim

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