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Managed, cheap, DC power switches
by Brandon Bennett 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

I have a need for cheap managed DC power switches for our OSS and Monitoring (backoffice). I was wondering what everyone else have found in this space. I am currently using Cisco 2950's, but those are still 2.5K list and seems like too much to spend on something so trivial. I am looking for something with: * Better port density (48 ports per 1U), but 24 ports would work. * IOS like configuration (not needed, but would be nice not to crosstrain my team) I really don't want anything that is Web only. * CHEAP. The gear is mostly just for monitoring and big backplanes and features are not really needed. Thanks, Brandon

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Re: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480
by John Sweeting 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

I certainly agree with Keith and we are pushing "a lot" of traffic through our Force10 boxes i.e. E1200's, E600's and a few E300's. As a company they are wery responsive and easy to work with. Dual cam is definitely recommended. ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith O'neill <keith(a)pando.com> To: Chris Marlatt <cmarlatt(a)rxsec.com> Cc: nanog <nanog(a)merit.edu> Sent: Fri Jul 18 10:34:51 2008 Subject: Re: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480 Force 10 is fine. I do suggest he go with the dual cam cards over the regular cards. I am not sure what Chris is talking about but I have used Force 10 for a long time, E, C and S series and have found it very stable. It will do everything you want and then some. The E300 is a good bang for the buck. Sure Foundry might be cheaper but I hear more complaining about Foundry than any other platform. Chris you want to share what issues you have seen with Force 10. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Marlatt" <cmarlatt(a)rxsec.com> To: "Joe Abley" <jabley(a)ca.afilias.info> Cc: "nanog" <nanog(a)merit.edu> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:43:33 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480 Joe Abley wrote: > Hi all, > > An acquaintance who runs an ISP with an M7i on its border is looking to > upgrade, because the M7i is starting to creak from all the flesh-tone > MPEGs his customers are sharing. (How times have changed. Back when I > was chasing packets, it was flesh-tone JPEGs.) > > He's looking at the MX480 and the E300. > > The MX480 is attractive because the M7i has been stable as a rock, and > he's familiar with JUNOS. > > The E300 is attractive because it's half the price of the MX480, and has > the potential to hold layer-2 cards as well as layer-3 ports which makes > the price per port much more reasonable than the MX480. But he has no > experience with Force10 at any ISO layer higher than 2. > > He doesn't have any exotic requirements beyond OSPF, OSPFv3, BGP, IP and > IPv6. There's no MPLS in the picture, for example. However, he's going > to want four or five full tables plus a moderate load of peering routes > in there. And maybe VRRP. > > Thoughts from people who have tried one or the other, or both? Or who > have faced this kind of problem, and came up with a different answer? > > Feel free to send mail off-list; I can summarise if there is interest. > > > Joe > I would avoid Force10 if at all possible. In the network I managed I've had some fairly surprising stability problems with their S series switches and feature problems (or lack there of) on their E series. Things you kind of scratch your head at and wonder what they were thinking. Juniper on the other hand is indeed a bit pricier but quite a stable platform. If he has to look at alternatives I would suggest Foundry, either the RX-8, MLX-8, or XMR-8000 (depending on requirements) for comparable models to the MX480. Regards, Chris

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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

BGP Update Report Interval: 16-Jun-08 -to- 17-Jul-08 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS2.0 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS4538 214212 2.8% 42.8 -- ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center 2 - AS9583 117999 1.6% 94.2 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 3 - AS17488 87641 1.2% 67.2 -- HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over Cable Internet 4 - AS5691 72620 1.0% 5586.2 -- MITRE-AS-5 - The MITRE Corporation 5 - AS8866 68509 0.9% 214.1 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc. 6 - AS17974 51591 0.7% 70.5 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 7 - AS4766 51237 0.7% 38.9 -- KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom 8 - AS1803 42042 0.6% 33.5 -- ICMNET-5 - Sprint 9 - AS12455 39062 0.5% 640.4 -- JAMBONET 10 - AS306 38170 0.5% 208.6 -- DNIC - DoD Network Information Center 11 - AS8151 36688 0.5% 26.1 -- Uninet S.A. de C.V. 12 - AS13620 34420 0.5% 6884.0 -- ASN-ELAN - Elan Communications, Inc. 13 - AS18231 33335 0.4% 137.7 -- EXATT-AS-AP IOL NETCOM LTD 14 - AS702 32658 0.4% 59.2 -- AS702 Verizon Business EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 15 - AS7738 31275 0.4% 101.5 -- Telecomunicacoes da Bahia S.A. 16 - AS5803 30695 0.4% 159.9 -- DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 17 - AS9498 29235 0.4% 23.1 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 18 - AS9394 29002 0.4% 19.0 -- CRNET CHINA RAILWAY Internet(CRNET) 19 - AS10396 28980 0.4% 149.4 -- COQUI-NET - DATACOM CARIBE, INC. 20 - AS25994 28945 0.4% 203.8 -- NPG-001 - NPG Cable, INC TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS13620 34420 0.5% 6884.0 -- ASN-ELAN - Elan Communications, Inc. 2 - AS30850 12526 0.2% 6263.0 -- DESMIE-AS Hellenic Trasmission System Operator S.A. 3 - AS5691 72620 1.0% 5586.2 -- MITRE-AS-5 - The MITRE Corporation 4 - AS29910 5352 0.1% 5352.0 -- IACP - INTL. ASSN OF CHIEF OF POLICEI 5 - AS44656 4916 0.1% 4916.0 -- HOLOSFIND-ROMANIA HOLOSFIND SRL 6 - AS40256 16965 0.2% 4241.2 -- ACS-HCMS-ASN - Affiliated Computer Services, Inc. 7 - AS23082 18898 0.2% 3779.6 -- MPHI - Michigan Public Health Institute 8 - AS40831 7375 0.1% 3687.5 -- ROBERTSDYBDAHL - Roberts & Dybdahl Inc. 9 - AS44194 3436 0.1% 3436.0 -- FREIFUNK-BERLIN-AS Freifunk Berlin 10 - AS27245 6406 0.1% 3203.0 -- HEIDRICK-CHICAGO - HEIDRICK 11 - AS38513 3201 0.0% 3201.0 -- LINTASARTA-AS-ID PT Aplikanusa Lintasarta 12 - AS27786 2868 0.0% 2868.0 -- SSA SISTEMAS S.A. 13 - AS39105 2650 0.0% 2650.0 -- CLASS-AS SC Class Computers And Service SRL 14 - AS32133 2387 0.0% 2387.0 -- JOHNSTONE-SUPPLY - Atwater Supply dba Johnstone Supply 15 - AS25250 7070 0.1% 2356.7 -- GAMTEL-AS 16 - AS28361 2072 0.0% 2072.0 -- 17 - AS10571 3758 0.1% 1879.0 -- GEOACCESS-AS - GeoAccess 18 - AS36966 1756 0.0% 1756.0 -- Edgenet 19 - AS30560 17083 0.2% 1708.3 -- GE-MS001 - General Electric Company 20 - AS31065 11742 0.2% 1677.4 -- MCIT TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 192.12.120.0/24 72506 0.9% AS5691 -- MITRE-AS-5 - The MITRE Corporation 2 - 221.134.222.0/24 46688 0.6% AS9583 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 3 - 83.228.71.0/24 44137 0.6% AS8866 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc. AS8953 -- ASN-ORANGE-ROMANIA Orange Romania Autonomous System Number 4 - 210.214.128.0/23 26270 0.3% AS9583 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 5 - 24.121.123.0/24 25721 0.3% AS25994 -- NPG-001 - NPG Cable, INC 6 - 221.128.192.0/18 25235 0.3% AS18231 -- EXATT-AS-AP IOL NETCOM LTD 7 - 213.91.175.0/24 19518 0.2% AS8866 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc. 8 - 210.214.144.0/24 17042 0.2% AS9583 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 9 - 194.126.143.0/24 14156 0.2% AS9051 -- IDM Autonomous System 10 - 195.47.233.0/24 12501 0.2% AS30850 -- DESMIE-AS Hellenic Trasmission System Operator S.A. 11 - 203.63.26.0/24 11119 0.1% AS9747 -- EZINTERNET-AS-AP EZInternet Pty Ltd 12 - 81.21.104.0/24 10929 0.1% AS31065 -- MCIT 13 - 216.255.56.0/21 7378 0.1% AS7106 -- OHIOBRIGHTNET - Com Net, Inc. 14 - 210.214.26.0/24 6969 0.1% AS9583 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 15 - 64.68.1.0/24 6959 0.1% AS13620 -- ASN-ELAN - Elan Communications, Inc. 16 - 64.68.9.0/24 6952 0.1% AS13620 -- ASN-ELAN - Elan Communications, Inc. 17 - 64.68.3.0/24 6926 0.1% AS13620 -- ASN-ELAN - Elan Communications, Inc. 18 - 216.151.192.0/19 6792 0.1% AS13620 -- ASN-ELAN - Elan Communications, Inc. 19 - 64.68.0.0/24 6791 0.1% AS13620 -- ASN-ELAN - Elan Communications, Inc. 20 - 203.101.87.0/24 6586 0.1% AS9498 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

This report has been generated at Fri Jul 18 21:14:57 2008 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 11-07-08 274275 170531 12-07-08 274087 171010 13-07-08 274400 170893 14-07-08 274150 171484 15-07-08 274371 171717 16-07-08 274410 172301 17-07-08 274703 172692 18-07-08 274967 172913 AS Summary 28851 Number of ASes in routing system 12197 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 4982 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS4538 : ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center 88350976 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS721 : DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 18Jul08 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 275106 173019 102087 37.1% All ASes AS4538 4982 881 4101 82.3% ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center AS209 3026 684 2342 77.4% ASN-QWEST - Qwest AS6389 2660 363 2297 86.4% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. AS4755 1679 226 1453 86.5% VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System AS18566 1045 40 1005 96.2% COVAD - Covad Communications Co. AS22773 971 81 890 91.7% CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. AS17488 1219 337 882 72.4% HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over Cable Internet AS4323 1477 634 843 57.1% TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc. AS8151 1382 575 807 58.4% Uninet S.A. de C.V. AS6298 1606 848 758 47.2% COX-PHX - Cox Communications Inc. AS19262 926 211 715 77.2% VZGNI-TRANSIT - Verizon Internet Services Inc. AS11492 1209 518 691 57.2% CABLEONE - CABLE ONE AS1785 1085 416 669 61.7% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. AS2386 1493 897 596 39.9% INS-AS - AT&T Data Communications Services AS18101 685 135 550 80.3% RIL-IDC Reliance Infocom Ltd Internet Data Centre, AS6478 1003 469 534 53.2% ATT-INTERNET3 - AT&T WorldNet Services AS4766 878 390 488 55.6% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS4808 617 163 454 73.6% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network AS855 591 149 442 74.8% CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant AS17676 525 83 442 84.2% GIGAINFRA BB TECHNOLOGY Corp. AS22047 565 128 437 77.3% VTR BANDA ANCHA S.A. AS7018 1437 1003 434 30.2% ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services AS9443 515 90 425 82.5% INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications AS4668 680 273 407 59.9% LGNET-AS-KR LG CNS AS4780 710 316 394 55.5% SEEDNET Digital United Inc. AS6197 955 569 386 40.4% BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS4804 454 79 375 82.6% MPX-AS Microplex PTY LTD AS3602 456 83 373 81.8% AS3602-RTI - Rogers Telecom Inc. AS4134 824 453 371 45.0% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS16814 426 74 352 82.6% NSS S.A. Total 36081 11168 24913 69.0% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.38.0.0/17 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.48.0.0/13 AS19548 ADELPHIA-AS2 - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.48.244.0/23 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.51.159.0/24 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.54.23.0/24 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.54.224.0/19 AS20001 ROADRUNNER-WEST - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.75.160.0/19 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.75.192.0/18 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 24.142.40.0/21 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 24.142.160.0/19 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.0.0/17 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.128.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 62.61.220.0/24 AS24974 TACHYON-EU Tachyon Europe BV - Wireless Broadband via Satellite 63.141.42.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 63.143.71.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 63.143.115.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 63.143.251.0/24 AS22555 UTC - Universal Talkware Corporation 63.248.0.0/16 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 64.7.112.0/21 AS6453 GLOBEINTERNET TATA Communications 64.7.120.0/21 AS6453 GLOBEINTERNET TATA Communications 64.50.128.0/18 AS4565 MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc. 64.64.159.0/24 AS32004 BIG-ASN - Business Information Group, Inc. 64.144.0.0/15 AS4565 MEGAPATH2-US - MegaPath Networks Inc. 64.188.0.0/16 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 65.36.8.0/24 AS5696 65.36.9.0/24 AS5696 65.36.33.0/24 AS5696 65.36.52.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 66.11.32.0/20 AS6261 VISINET - Visionary Systems, Inc. 66.11.40.0/21 AS6261 VISINET - Visionary Systems, Inc. 66.54.91.0/24 AS30506 BLACKSUN-1 - Blacksun Technologies LLC 66.55.160.0/19 AS29994 66.64.96.0/20 AS3790 RADIGRAFICA COSTARRICENSE 66.180.239.0/24 AS35888 VIGNETTE - VIGNETTE CORPORATION 66.199.32.0/20 AS10397 WISP-AS - Wispnet, LLC 66.206.32.0/24 AS17787 PSEB-AS-PK Pakistan Software Export Board 66.206.33.0/24 AS17787 PSEB-AS-PK Pakistan Software Export Board 66.206.34.0/24 AS17787 PSEB-AS-PK Pakistan Software Export Board 66.206.35.0/24 AS17787 PSEB-AS-PK Pakistan Software Export Board 66.206.40.0/22 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 66.206.44.0/23 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 66.206.47.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 66.207.32.0/20 AS23011 66.219.192.0/18 AS5048 FIBER - FIBERNET Corp. 67.20.0.0/14 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 68.64.0.0/13 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 68.168.0.0/14 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 68.232.0.0/14 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 69.71.192.0/20 AS13818 PHX-INTL-TELEPORT - Phoenix International Teleport 69.80.0.0/17 AS3043 AMPHIB-AS - Amphibian Media Corporation 69.164.0.0/17 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 69.165.102.0/24 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 70.34.0.0/16 AS7843 ADELPHIA-AS - Road Runner HoldCo LLC 80.88.0.0/21 AS33774 DJAWEB 80.88.8.0/22 AS33774 DJAWEB 80.88.10.0/24 AS33774 DJAWEB 80.88.12.0/24 AS33779 wataniya-telecom-as 87.76.0.0/16 AS3301 TELIANET-SWEDEN TeliaNet Sweden 87.254.160.0/19 AS16265 LEASEWEB LEASEWEB AS 91.208.60.0/24 AS43366 OSSO Osso AS 91.208.62.0/24 AS43366 OSSO Osso AS 94.100.48.0/20 AS47588 94.136.64.0/19 AS21503 ARETE-AS Phonera Networks AB 94.136.64.0/20 AS21503 ARETE-AS Phonera Networks AB 94.136.64.0/21 AS21503 ARETE-AS Phonera Networks AB 94.136.72.0/21 AS21503 ARETE-AS Phonera Networks AB 94.136.80.0/20 AS21503 ARETE-AS Phonera Networks AB 94.136.80.0/21 AS21503 ARETE-AS Phonera Networks AB 94.136.88.0/21 AS21503 ARETE-AS Phonera Networks AB 95.192.0.0/16 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS project 95.255.248.0/21 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS project 137.0.0.0/13 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 151.135.0.0/16 AS4768 CLIX-NZ TelstraClear Ltd 159.3.211.0/24 AS2687 ASATTCA AT&T Global Network Services - AP 163.142.0.0/16 AS2500 WIDE-BB WIDE Project 166.63.0.0/16 AS33775 NITEL-AS 172.7.0.0/24 AS28175 172.10.1.0/30 AS18305 POSNET POSDATA Co.,Ltd 188.0.0.0/16 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS project 188.0.0.0/21 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS project 188.0.0.0/24 AS12654 RIPE-NCC-RIS-AS RIPE NCC RIS project 192.9.200.0/24 AS3602 AS3602-RTI - Rogers Telecom Inc. 192.30.93.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.94.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.40.105.0/24 AS12582 TSF-DATANET-NGD-AS TSF MPLS VPN Services 192.64.85.0/24 AS1759 TSF-IP-CORE TeliaSonera Finland IP Network 192.69.107.0/24 AS1759 TSF-IP-CORE TeliaSonera Finland IP Network 192.69.108.0/24 AS1759 TSF-IP-CORE TeliaSonera Finland IP Network 192.69.177.0/24 AS1759 TSF-IP-CORE TeliaSonera Finland IP Network 192.70.164.0/24 AS25689 NRCNET-AS - National Research Council of Canada 192.96.36.0/24 AS5713 SAIX-NET 192.96.37.0/24 AS10474 NETACTIVE 192.96.135.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.136.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.141.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.143.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.145.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 192.96.177.0/24 AS6083 POSIX-AFRICA 192.101.45.0/24 AS2905 TICSA-ASN 192.101.46.0/24 AS6503 Avantel, S.A. 192.101.47.0/24 AS6503 Avantel, S.A. 192.101.64.0/21 AS702 AS702 Verizon Business EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 192.101.67.0/24 AS21775 192.101.70.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 192.101.71.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 192.101.72.0/24 AS702 AS702 Verizon Business EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 192.101.73.0/24 AS4765 WORLDNET-AS World Net & Services Co., Ltd. 192.101.74.0/24 AS1239 SPRINTLINK - Sprint 192.122.212.0/24 AS209 ASN-QWEST - Qwest 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.131.233.0/24 AS6389 BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. 192.133.6.0/24 AS10282 EQUANT-CEEUR EQUANT AS for Central and Eastern Europe region 192.153.144.0/21 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 192.154.32.0/19 AS81 NCREN - MCNC 192.168.117.192/29 AS29208 DIALTELECOM-AS Dial Telecom A.S., Bratislava 192.188.208.0/20 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 193.200.114.0/23 AS31530 SERVERCREW-AS Servercrew LTD Autonomes System 194.31.227.0/24 AS21461 TRANSFAIRNET Transfair-net GmbH Krefeld 194.246.72.0/23 AS8893 ARTFILES-AS Artfiles New Media GmbH 196.6.108.0/24 AS5713 SAIX-NET 196.10.119.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.10.122.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 196.10.251.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.10.252.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 196.10.254.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.101.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.102.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.104.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.121.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.125.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.126.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.169.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.174.0/23 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.176.0/21 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.192.0/22 AS2018 TENET-1 196.13.196.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 196.201.98.0/24 AS29571 CITelecom-AS 196.216.132.0/24 AS9207 TAIDE-KE-NAIROBI Taide - Kenya POP 196.216.134.0/24 AS9207 TAIDE-KE-NAIROBI Taide - Kenya POP 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLATLANTIC-COM - Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.54.82.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 198.54.92.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 198.54.222.0/24 AS2018 TENET-1 198.97.72.0/21 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.80.0/20 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.96.0/19 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 198.97.240.0/20 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 198.144.96.0/20 AS12185 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GT-BELL - Bell Canada 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INTERHOP - Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASKTEL - Saskatchewan Telecommunications 198.180.198.0/24 AS23715 SEOUL-INTGW-GXS-AP Global Exchange Services 199.9.128.0/17 AS668 ASN-ASNET-NET-AS - Defense Research and Engineering Network 199.10.0.0/16 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.0.0/21 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.128.0/18 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.130.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.131.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.134.0/24 AS3541 ITSDN-U4 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.136.0/24 AS27044 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.138.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 ITSDN-U7 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.142.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS6045 DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS27033 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.153.0/24 AS27034 DDN-ASNBLK1 - DoD Network Information Center 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.114.156.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA - AF DDN PMO 199.121.0.0/16 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.0.0/18 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.16.0/20 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.123.80.0/21 AS721 DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST-AS - IQuest Internet 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 199.246.116.0/24 AS813 UUNET-CANADA - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 202.58.113.0/24 AS19161 INNOCOM-TELECOM - INNOCOM TELECOM 202.73.144.0/20 AS4788 TMNET-AS-AP TM Net, Internet Service Provider 202.80.192.0/20 AS2706 HKSUPER-HK-AP Pacific Internet (Hong Kong) Limited 202.86.252.0/22 AS4748 RESOLINK-AS-AP Resources Link Network Limited 202.86.252.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.253.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.254.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.86.255.0/24 AS9304 HUTCHISON-AS-AP Hutchison Global Communications 202.90.33.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.40.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.41.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.42.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.43.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.90.44.0/24 AS9830 SWIFTONLINE-AS-AP SWIFT ONLINE BORDER AS 202.94.1.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network 202.94.70.0/24 AS9837 POWERTEL-AP Powertel Ltd 202.124.195.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.124.207.0/24 AS17911 BRAINPK-AS-AP Brain Telecommunication Ltd. 202.136.254.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network 202.136.255.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network 202.164.100.0/24 AS18101 RIL-IDC Reliance Infocom Ltd Internet Data Centre, 202.176.228.0/24 AS17988 SINOSAT-AS-AP SINOSAT (HONG KONG) LIMITED 202.176.232.0/24 AS17988 SINOSAT-AS-AP SINOSAT (HONG KONG) LIMITED 202.181.32.0/24 AS4645 ASN-HKNET-AP HKNet Co. Ltd 203.12.45.0/24 AS4854 NETSPACE-AS-AP Netspace Online Systems 203.62.0.0/17 AS7575 AARNET-AS-AP Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.78.48.0/20 AS9299 IPG-AS-AP Philippine Long Distance Telephone Company 203.89.139.0/24 AS17911 BRAINPK-AS-AP Brain Telecommunication Ltd. 203.111.192.0/20 AS7473 SINGTEL-AS-AP Singapore Telecom 203.112.97.0/24 AS9942 COMINDICO-AP SOUL Converged Communications Australia 203.112.111.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.113.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.114.0/24 AS4802 ASN-IINET iiNet Limited 203.112.116.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.117.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.118.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.119.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.120.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.121.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.112.127.0/24 AS7474 OPTUSCOM-AS01-AU SingTel Optus Pty Ltd 203.128.128.0/19 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 203.128.128.0/24 AS23849 CNNIC-NET263-AP Beijing Capital-online science development Co.,Ltd. 203.152.136.0/23 AS23649 NEWSKIES-AS-AP New Skies Satellites, Hong Kong Teleport 203.152.138.0/23 AS23649 NEWSKIES-AS-AP New Skies Satellites, Hong Kong Teleport 203.152.142.0/24 AS23649 NEWSKIES-AS-AP New Skies Satellites, Hong Kong Teleport 203.152.143.0/24 AS23649 NEWSKIES-AS-AP New Skies Satellites, Hong Kong Teleport 203.160.110.0/23 AS7643 VNN-AS-AP Vietnam Posts and Telecommunications (VNPT) 204.9.216.0/23 AS6389 BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. 204.9.217.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc. 204.9.218.0/23 AS6389 BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. 204.13.140.0/22 AS7270 NET2PHONE - Net2Phone Corp. 204.16.120.0/23 AS12077 204.16.122.0/23 AS12077 204.19.14.0/23 AS577 BACOM - Bell Canada 204.48.58.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc. 204.48.60.0/24 AS4323 TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc. 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN - TELLABS Operations, Inc. 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 206.162.224.0/19 AS23464 ILCSNET - Interlink Computer Services 206.180.240.0/20 AS12083 KNOLOGY-NET - Knology Holdings 206.220.240.0/24 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 206.220.240.64/26 AS22335 MREN - Metropolitan Research and Education Network 206.220.240.128/25 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 206.220.240.160/30 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 206.220.240.220/32 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 206.220.241.0/24 AS10764 STARTAP - National Center for Supercomputing Applications 207.98.192.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 207.98.209.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 207.98.223.0/24 AS701 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 207.191.128.0/19 AS10887 BPSI-AS - BPSI Internet Services 207.204.168.0/24 AS15150 BELLTECH-AS - BELLWETHER TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION 207.204.222.0/24 AS22773 CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETPA - NuNet Inc. 208.38.192.0/18 AS3043 AMPHIB-AS - Amphibian Media Corporation 208.38.192.0/21 AS14237 BEAMSPEED1 - Beamspeed 208.38.202.0/24 AS14237 BEAMSPEED1 - Beamspeed 208.38.203.0/24 AS14237 BEAMSPEED1 - Beamspeed 208.38.204.0/22 AS14237 BEAMSPEED1 - Beamspeed 209.54.93.0/24 AS22773 CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 209.54.111.0/24 AS22773 CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 209.54.123.0/24 AS6062 NETPLEX - NETPLEX 209.54.240.0/21 AS10887 BPSI-AS - BPSI Internet Services 209.105.224.0/19 AS20074 209.140.90.0/24 AS14461 NTSL - NET SOLUTIONS 209.140.224.0/21 AS10573 WEBNEXUS - WebNexus Communications Inc. 209.140.234.0/24 AS10573 WEBNEXUS - WebNexus Communications Inc. 209.140.235.0/24 AS10573 WEBNEXUS - WebNexus Communications Inc. 209.140.236.0/24 AS10573 WEBNEXUS - WebNexus Communications Inc. 209.140.237.0/24 AS10573 WEBNEXUS - WebNexus Communications Inc. 209.140.238.0/24 AS10573 WEBNEXUS - WebNexus Communications Inc. 209.140.239.0/24 AS10573 WEBNEXUS - WebNexus Communications Inc. 209.141.16.0/21 AS10573 WEBNEXUS - WebNexus Communications Inc. 209.141.48.0/22 AS14461 NTSL - NET SOLUTIONS 209.145.192.0/18 AS3043 AMPHIB-AS - Amphibian Media Corporation 210.5.128.0/20 AS4837 CHINA169-BACKBONE CNCGROUP China169 Backbone 216.37.114.0/23 AS3549 GBLX Global Crossing Ltd. 216.37.120.0/23 AS13377 216.59.0.0/17 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.99.16.0/24 AS6395 LVLT-6395 - Level 3 Communications, Inc. 216.99.20.0/24 AS6395 LVLT-6395 - Level 3 Communications, Inc. 216.162.96.0/19 AS7393 CYBERCON - CYBERCON, INC. 216.172.198.0/24 AS22773 CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 216.172.199.0/24 AS22773 CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 216.176.22.0/24 AS20299 Newcom Limited 216.210.86.0/24 AS577 BACOM - Bell Canada 216.240.240.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.240.241.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.240.242.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 - AT&T WorldNet Services 216.251.207.0/24 AS1239 SPRINTLINK - Sprint 217.78.71.0/24 AS12491 IPPLANET-AS IPPlanet 217.78.72.0/24 AS12491 IPPLANET-AS IPPlanet 217.78.73.0/24 AS12491 IPPLANET-AS IPPlanet Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480
by Joe Abley 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Hi all, An acquaintance who runs an ISP with an M7i on its border is looking to upgrade, because the M7i is starting to creak from all the flesh- tone MPEGs his customers are sharing. (How times have changed. Back when I was chasing packets, it was flesh-tone JPEGs.) He's looking at the MX480 and the E300. The MX480 is attractive because the M7i has been stable as a rock, and he's familiar with JUNOS. The E300 is attractive because it's half the price of the MX480, and has the potential to hold layer-2 cards as well as layer-3 ports which makes the price per port much more reasonable than the MX480. But he has no experience with Force10 at any ISO layer higher than 2. He doesn't have any exotic requirements beyond OSPF, OSPFv3, BGP, IP and IPv6. There's no MPLS in the picture, for example. However, he's going to want four or five full tables plus a moderate load of peering routes in there. And maybe VRRP. Thoughts from people who have tried one or the other, or both? Or who have faced this kind of problem, and came up with a different answer? Feel free to send mail off-list; I can summarise if there is interest. Joe

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Real person @ Speakeasy Abuse
by Tomas L. Byrnes 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Please contact me off-list. Tomas L. Byrnes ByrneIT Phone (it will find me): 760.444.4727 Text Message: 7604023999(a)messaging.sprintpcs.com <mailto:7604023999@messaging.sprintpcs.com> e-mail: tomb(a)byrneit.net <mailto:tomb@byrneit.net> IM: MSN Messenger tomb(a)byrneit.net <mailto:tomb@byrneit.net> Skype: zwithapggb CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information transmitted in this e-mail message is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are in possession of privileged information, also, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copy of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, immediately notify us via return e-mail at the address above, & discard, remove, delete, & destroy any trace of it.

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RE: Comcast issues anyone?
by Smith, Courtney 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

This issue has been resolved. Global Crossing corrected routing error in their network. Thank you for your patience. Courtney Smith Backbone Service Desk Comcast National Engineering & Technical Operations -----Original Message----- From: National Network Desk Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:20 PM To: 'nanog(a)nanog.org' Subject: RE: Comcast issues anyone? This issue has been resolved. Global Crossing corrected routing error in their network. Thank you for your patience. Courtney Smith Backbone Service Desk Comcast National Engineering & Technical Operations

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Comcast issues anyone?
by Logan Rawlins 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

I have various customers complaining of comcast issues and from traces i've seen so far it looks to be isolated to comcast or their handoff to someone. Anyone else having these issues and can a comcast network engineer please contact me off list if possible thanks. Tracing route to [64.38.193.22] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 15 ms 18 ms 17 ms 192.168.1.1 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 17 ms 9 ms 27 ms ge-1-7- ur01.seattle.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.8 6.99.65] 4 11 ms 11 ms 23 ms te-8-4- ar01.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.86 .96.189] 5 17 ms 15 ms 21 ms 68.86.90.222 6 14 ms 31 ms 17 ms 68.86.90.221 7 28 ms 27 ms 46 ms pos-0-6-0-0- cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.197] 8 32 ms 47 ms 42 ms pos-0-7-0-0- cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.181] 9 40 ms * 48 ms te-1-1- pr01.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68 .86.84.126] 10 109 ms 54 ms 154 ms 68.86.88.250 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. -Logan

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Re: Avg. Packet Size - Again?
by Scott Weeks 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

--- fred(a)cisco.com wrote: CAIDA has been doing a lot of that, at least in the past. Last I asked them, which was quite a while back, they said that O(35%) of traffic ----------------------------------------- On Production networks? And if so, what type? Eyeball networks? Content networks? etc. over long time periods. scott

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Analysing traces for performance bottlenecks
by Sam Stickland 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

Hi, Are there any packages (or Wireshark options that I've missed) that can follow a TCP stream and determine the limiting factor on throughput. E.g Latency, packet loss, out of sequence packets, window size, or even just the senders rate onto the wire. I know how to analyse a trace by hand for performance issues, but it's relatively time consuming. Googling for variations on "Analyse TCP stream limit throughput" didn't find anything. Sam

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