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Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network
by Brandon Butterworth 10 Jan '11

10 Jan '11

> We have offered on numerous occasions to peer with both of the > providers that are currently segmented from our ASN (6939), going > even so far as baking a cake for Cogent (AS174). Are some parties refusing to use transit, trying to bake in a de-facto "tier-1" ness? brandon

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TW Telecom sales rep/national office
by Drew Weaver 09 Jan '11

09 Jan '11

I feel a bit silly asking this but I have had the hardest time finding a sales representative for the TW Telecom national group. Can someone please assist off-list? thanks, -Drew

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Anyone out there providing Public Services over MEF E-Tree ?
by Francois Menard 09 Jan '11

09 Jan '11

In an effort of figuring out a metro ethernet access network to carry Internet access services, I'm comparing the approaches of several equipment manufacturers insofar as how, they allow a metro service provider to provide point-to-multipoint E-TREE public services, (where the leaves of the multipoint tree are different billing entities from that of the root of the tree), such that it remains possible to distinguish at the root traffic originating from a given service provider demarcation device in the tree. In an effort to solve this problem, I am finding myself diving deep down into the behaviour of Ethernet switches at the 802.1Q 2005 bridge behaviour. I would appreciate feedback from people whom are aware since WHEN and under which conditions, Ethernet switches have begun to implement separate MAC addresses for every client ports. and whether such MAC addresses draw from the global pool of MAC addresses. A cursory understanding of this leads me to believe that as soon as a switch is capable of spanning tree on a downstream client port, it must have separate MAC addresses for every client port. Feedback appreciated -=Francois=-

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Re: AltDB?
by Christopher Morrow 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Abhijit Phanse <abhijit(a)unitedlayer.com> wrote: > Could you please remove all @unitedlayer.com addresses from this > distribution. > > Thanks in advance. I think you mean to ask this of nanog-admin ... though honestly @unitedlayer.com folks CAN request that themselves (with the associated mailman data in the message headers) -chris

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asymmetric routes/security concerns/Fortinet
by Greg Whynott 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

Hello, we have multiple internet connections of which one is a research network where many medical institutions and universities are also connected to threw out the country. This research network (ORION) also has internet access but is not meant to be used as a primary path to the internet by its customers. Connected to the ORION network are many sites we exchange email with daily who also have multiple internet connections. One of these sites is not reachable by us. After investigating, it was discovered this site is dropping our connections as the path back to use would use a different interface on the firewall ( a Fortinet device) than that which it arrived upon. The admins at this university claim this is by design and for security reasons.. My response was the entire internet is asymmetrical and while this may of been a legitimate concern in the 90's, I don't think its a real concern anymore if things are set up correctly. They suggested we add static routes to our equipment to address this… This seems like a bad idea and I am not comfortable adjusting my routing table to address one site's issues on the internet due to their (not ours) routing/security policies. am I correct here? any comments on this would be greatly appreciated as I'll be called into a meeting to discuss this further (they are digging in their heals in on this, and higher ups are getting involved now). I'd like to arm myself with a few perspectives. thanks very much for your time again, greg -- This message and any attachments may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by anyone other than the person for whom it was originally intended is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Opinions, conclusions or other information contained in this message may not be that of the organization.

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For posting
by Sandra Munoz 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

My email: astrosm(a)gmail.com

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RE: FAA - ASDI servers
by Ryan Finnesey 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

Is anyone on the list from the FAA? I am trying to find out if we can connect to the ASDI servers via IPv6. Cheers Ryan

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Re: asymmetric routes/security concerns/Fortinet
by Greg Whynott 08 Jan '11

08 Jan '11

Randy your assumptions are correct, all outbounds get that slapped on them, automagically. good thing you have read the same magic book and can counter! 8) I don't or ever did expect anything from you, not sure why you thought i might. do you think I should quit this organization because we do this, and not consider the good work and intentions they have? (finding a cure for cancer) I don't think the legal's deparments intention was to force anything onto the world. sounds like you have a lot of anger issues to work out. 8) take care and have a great weekend, greg On Jan 7, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > you have sent a message to me which seems to contain a legal > warning on who can read it, or how it may be distributed, or > whether it may be archived, etc. > > i do not accept such email. my mail user agent detected a legal > notice when i was opening your mail, and automatically deleted it. > so do not expect further response. > > yes, i know your mail environment automatically added the legal > notice. well, my mail environment automatically detected it, > deleted it, and sent this message to you. so don't expect a lot > of sympathy. > > and if you choose to work for some enterprise clueless enough to > think that they can force this silliness on the world, use gmail, > hotmail, ... > > randy -- This message and any attachments may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by anyone other than the person for whom it was originally intended is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Opinions, conclusions or other information contained in this message may not be that of the organization.

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Gmail Contact
by Mikeal Clark 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

I'm having some issues with personal domains that forward to gmail being blacklist. If anyone from gmail would be available to talk through it with me offlist I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Mikeal

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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

BGP Update Report Interval: 30-Dec-10 -to- 06-Jan-11 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS18025 31461 3.2% 873.9 -- ACE-1-WIFI-AS-AP Ace-1 Wifi Network 2 - AS17974 20942 2.1% 17.7 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 3 - AS8103 20677 2.1% 55.0 -- STATE-OF-FLA - Florida Department of Management Services - Technology Program 4 - AS32528 19431 2.0% 4857.8 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 5 - AS33475 18464 1.9% 129.1 -- RSN-1 - RockSolid Network, Inc. 6 - AS24627 17517 1.8% 486.6 -- SHOWNET-KW-AS GULFSATCOMMUNICATIONS COMPANY K.S.C. 7 - AS35931 15601 1.6% 5200.3 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO HOLDINGS INC 8 - AS7462 13969 1.4% 297.2 -- ONEWEST - SRVnet, Inc. 9 - AS24554 12398 1.3% 108.8 -- FIVE-NET-AS-IN Fivenetwork Solution India Pvt Ltd Internet 10 - AS9498 12353 1.2% 17.5 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 11 - AS24923 12123 1.2% 12123.0 -- SETTC South-East Transtelecom Joint Stock Co. 12 - AS23700 11034 1.1% 30.1 -- BM-AS-ID PT. Broadband Multimedia, Tbk 13 - AS45474 10393 1.1% 692.9 -- NEXUSGUARD-AS-AP Tower 1 Millennium City 1 14 - AS10113 10157 1.0% 597.5 -- DATAFAST-AP DATAFAST TELECOMMUNICATIONS LTD 15 - AS24560 9145 0.9% 8.7 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 16 - AS9829 9012 0.9% 23.9 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 17 - AS25620 8759 0.9% 62.1 -- COTAS LTDA. 18 - AS5800 8266 0.8% 37.9 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05800-06055 - DoD Network Information Center 19 - AS8151 6941 0.7% 21.6 -- Uninet S.A. de C.V. 20 - AS45595 6611 0.7% 13.8 -- PKTELECOM-AS-PK Pakistan Telecom Company Limited TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS24923 12123 1.2% 12123.0 -- SETTC South-East Transtelecom Joint Stock Co. 2 - AS35931 15601 1.6% 5200.3 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO HOLDINGS INC 3 - AS32528 19431 2.0% 4857.8 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 4 - AS17408 3041 0.3% 3041.0 -- ABOVE-AS-AP AboveNet Communications Taiwan 5 - AS4454 2979 0.3% 2979.0 -- TNET-AS - State of Tennessee 6 - AS49776 1870 0.2% 1870.0 -- GORSET-AS Gorodskaya Set Ltd. 7 - AS49600 1745 0.2% 1745.0 -- LASEDA La Seda de Barcelona, S.A 8 - AS8510 1441 0.1% 1441.0 -- Tomsk town Educational and Scientific network 9 - AS2828 5679 0.6% 1419.8 -- XO-AS15 - XO Communications 10 - AS34239 1335 0.1% 1335.0 -- INTERAMERICAN General Insurance Company 11 - AS43534 2597 0.3% 1298.5 -- CREDITCALL CreditCall Ltd 12 - AS45550 1221 0.1% 1221.0 -- NGT-AS-VN New Generations Telecommunications Corporation 13 - AS2685 1955 0.2% 977.5 -- ASATTCA AT&T Global Network Services - CA 14 - AS28666 4805 0.5% 961.0 -- HOSTLOCATION LTDA 15 - AS21324 926 0.1% 926.0 -- OSW Osrodek Studiow Wschodnich im Marka Karpia 16 - AS1959 2755 0.3% 918.3 -- DMSLABNET - DoD Network Information Center 17 - AS18025 31461 3.2% 873.9 -- ACE-1-WIFI-AS-AP Ace-1 Wifi Network 18 - AS47722 861 0.1% 861.0 -- CONCORDE-AS Concorde Capital Ltd. 19 - AS27666 814 0.1% 814.0 -- INSTITUTO TECNOLOGICO DE TELEFONOS DE MEXICO 20 - AS21271 798 0.1% 798.0 -- SOTELMABGP TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 194.126.34.0/24 17142 1.6% AS24627 -- SHOWNET-KW-AS GULFSATCOMMUNICATIONS COMPANY K.S.C. 2 - 213.129.96.0/19 12123 1.1% AS24923 -- SETTC South-East Transtelecom Joint Stock Co. 3 - 180.233.173.0/24 10181 1.0% AS45474 -- NEXUSGUARD-AS-AP Tower 1 Millennium City 1 4 - 202.182.78.0/23 10125 1.0% AS10113 -- DATAFAST-AP DATAFAST TELECOMMUNICATIONS LTD 5 - 63.211.68.0/22 10064 0.9% AS35931 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO HOLDINGS INC 6 - 130.36.35.0/24 9716 0.9% AS32528 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 7 - 130.36.34.0/24 9711 0.9% AS32528 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 8 - 202.92.235.0/24 7094 0.7% AS9498 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 9 - 27.123.248.0/22 6288 0.6% AS18025 -- ACE-1-WIFI-AS-AP Ace-1 Wifi Network 10 - 182.54.140.0/22 6279 0.6% AS18025 -- ACE-1-WIFI-AS-AP Ace-1 Wifi Network 11 - 182.54.148.0/22 6279 0.6% AS18025 -- ACE-1-WIFI-AS-AP Ace-1 Wifi Network 12 - 101.78.24.0/22 6129 0.6% AS18025 -- ACE-1-WIFI-AS-AP Ace-1 Wifi Network 13 - 101.78.20.0/22 6128 0.6% AS18025 -- ACE-1-WIFI-AS-AP Ace-1 Wifi Network 14 - 198.140.43.0/24 5446 0.5% AS35931 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO HOLDINGS INC 15 - 189.1.173.0/24 4739 0.5% AS28666 -- HOSTLOCATION LTDA 16 - 216.126.136.0/22 4559 0.4% AS6316 -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. 17 - 189.85.51.0/24 3683 0.3% AS28175 -- 18 - 206.184.16.0/24 3553 0.3% AS174 -- COGENT Cogent/PSI 19 - 68.65.152.0/22 3358 0.3% AS11915 -- TELWEST-NETWORK-SVCS-STATIC - TEL WEST COMMUNICATIONS LLC 20 - 202.153.174.0/24 3041 0.3% AS17408 -- ABOVE-AS-AP AboveNet Communications Taiwan Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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