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Dnssec and ptr records
by Eric J Esslinger 18 Oct '11

18 Oct '11

Quick question for those who have researched things more closely. I have signed all my forward zones and think I've crossed my I's and dotted my T's, but one thing I'm not sure of... Are we supposed to setup signing for reverse dns zones? __________________________ Eric Esslinger Information Services Manager - Fayetteville Public Utilities http://www.fpu-tn.com/ (931)433-1522 ext 165 This message may contain confidential and/or proprietary information and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited.

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[NANOG-announce] Program Committee Appointments Announcement
by Sylvie LaPerriere 17 Oct '11

17 Oct '11

The Board has completed the Program Committee selection process. This year, eighteen members submitted their candidacies for eight available positions. We want to thank each and every one of them for considering this important service to our community and encourage them to try for the next selection cycle. We are pleased to announce the two-year term appointment of Jim Cowie, Igor Gashinsky, Greg Hankins, Manish Karir, Mohit Lad, Dani Roisman, Michael Sinatra and Tony Tauber to the Program Committee. We also want to thank and recognize the contribution of Cathy Aronson, Barry Greene, Chris Morrow and Sonia Sakovich for their service on the 2009-2011 Program Committtees. In the coming weeks, the new Program Committee will hold its first meeting and select a Chair and a Vice-Chair. On behalf of the Board, Sylvie LaPerriere NANOG Chair -- Sylvie LaPerriere NANOG Chair - www.nanog.org _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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Re: Apple updates - Akamai effect
by J 16 Oct '11

16 Oct '11

Baskett, Andrew wrote: > Hi J, > > As Patrick mentioned, on-net private Akamai clusters should not be serving > out of your network unless you desire them to or there is a configuration > mistake. > > There is a small caveat; we direct users by which DNS they use and not by > end user IP address. So if a user has switched ISPs and not updated their > DNS, they could still be directed to the previous ISP's on-net cluster. > Of course, this would be viewed as serving offnet but usually makes up a > very small % of traffic (think <1%) > > Unfortunately, Akamai has no control over this aspect but ISPs have a few > options to mitigate it. > > If you can let me know more info about what you are seeing, we would be > happy to investigate & help further. > > Thanks, > > Andrew Baskett > Senior Network Support - Akamai Technologies - Cambridge, MA USA > 888-421-1003 or +1-617-444-0089 - netsupport-tix(a)akamai.com > http://www.akamai.com Andrew, Actually, I've already been talking to you somewhat about our upgrades in the area, I believe. I'm mostly curious about what the user impact is on the cluster and link upgrades in terms of experience when that happens. This seems to be a common progression, so I'm curious ahead of time. > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick(a)ianai.net> > To: North American Operators' Group <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:43:20 -0400 > Subject: Re: Apple updates - Akamai effect > On Oct 15, 2011, at 20:06, J <nanog(a)namor.ca> wrote: >> Simon Leinen wrote: > >>> Guess it was a good idea to upgrade that Akamai cluster's uplink to >>> 10GE, even though 2*GE (or was it 4*GE) looked sufficient at the time. >>> Remember folks, "overprovisioning" is a misnomer, it should be called >>> "provisioning for robustness and growth". >> If I may change the thrust a bit, this is of interest to me. >> >> Just because we're in the midst of similar - changing from 2xGE to 10GE >> and >> increasing the number of Akamai nodes. >> >> Anyone have similar stats on that sort of conversion, and what to expect? >> From what I can tell, there's a fair bit of local, off-net traffic >> coming to >> ours, so I'm curious what the turn-up may look like. > > It sounds like you have what Akamai calls an "AANP" deployment. In > general, that should not serve users outside your network. There are > reasons it can, and you should talk to Akamai about it if you think it is. > > If you have questions about an on-net node, feel free to email Akamai's > Network Support group, NetSupport(a)akamai.com. They are only M-F, but they > can answer any questions you have. > > -- > TTFN, > patrick

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Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report
by Joelja＠bogus.com 16 Oct '11

16 Oct '11

I read it every week. It's a finger on the pulse of a system on which I am totally dependent... Geoff Huston <gih(a)apnic.net> wrote: >Does anyone give a s**t about this any more? > >From what I learned at the latest NANOG it's very clear that nobody reads this any more. > >Is there any good reason to persist in spamming the nanog list with this report? > > >thanks, > Geoff > > > >

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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 16 Oct '11

16 Oct '11

BGP Update Report Interval: 06-Oct-11 -to- 13-Oct-11 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS9829 28719 2.0% 33.9 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 2 - AS38040 27672 1.9% 5534.4 -- GLOBAL-TRANSIT-TOT-IIG-TH TOT Public Company Limited 3 - AS32528 25784 1.8% 6446.0 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 4 - AS6316 25314 1.8% 550.3 -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. 5 - AS5800 22216 1.5% 111.1 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05800-06055 - DoD Network Information Center 6 - AS14420 18751 1.3% 23.8 -- CORPORACION NACIONAL DE TELECOMUNICACIONES - CNT EP 7 - AS17974 18434 1.3% 11.2 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 8 - AS9498 15367 1.1% 39.6 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 9 - AS8402 14949 1.0% 19.7 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom" 10 - AS7552 13808 1.0% 10.2 -- VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel Corporation 11 - AS16916 11954 0.8% 1992.3 -- NETLOGIC-WEST - INFINIPLEX LLC DBA NETLOGIC 12 - AS9562 9855 0.7% 1407.9 -- MSU-TH-AP Mahasarakham University 13 - AS11492 9496 0.7% 17.8 -- CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC. 14 - AS51281 9415 0.7% 1569.2 -- COUNTRY-TELECOM-AS Country Telekom CJSC 15 - AS2856 9187 0.6% 48.4 -- BT-UK-AS BTnet UK Regional network 16 - AS9649 8844 0.6% 166.9 -- MOPH-TH-AP Information Technology Office 17 - AS24863 8809 0.6% 12.3 -- LINKdotNET-AS 18 - AS14522 8545 0.6% 24.6 -- Satnet 19 - AS8866 8160 0.6% 17.7 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc. 20 - AS27738 7865 0.5% 23.1 -- Ecuadortelecom S.A. TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS32528 25784 1.8% 6446.0 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 2 - AS38040 27672 1.9% 5534.4 -- GLOBAL-TRANSIT-TOT-IIG-TH TOT Public Company Limited 3 - AS17408 3226 0.2% 3226.0 -- ABOVE-AS-AP AboveNet Communications Taiwan 4 - AS16916 11954 0.8% 1992.3 -- NETLOGIC-WEST - INFINIPLEX LLC DBA NETLOGIC 5 - AS50660 1767 0.1% 1767.0 -- SSIF-CJ-AS SOCIETATE DE SERVICII DE INVESTITII FINANCIARE BROKER SA 6 - AS51281 9415 0.7% 1569.2 -- COUNTRY-TELECOM-AS Country Telekom CJSC 7 - AS17425 7412 0.5% 1482.4 -- EPA-AS-TH Provincial Electricity Authority of Thailand. 8 - AS9562 9855 0.7% 1407.9 -- MSU-TH-AP Mahasarakham University 9 - AS10099 1036 0.1% 1036.0 -- HKUNICOM1-AP China Unicom (Hong Kong) Operations Limited 10 - AS44025 1022 0.1% 1022.0 -- KAMTELEKOM-NET Kamtelekom Ltd. 11 - AS55696 1018 0.1% 1018.0 -- SCOM-AS-ID Starcom Solusindo PT. 12 - AS51966 873 0.1% 873.0 -- RESTENA-ANYCAST-AS Fondation RESTENA 13 - AS9168 769 0.1% 769.0 -- TELINO-AS Telino Network AS Number 14 - AS56903 754 0.1% 754.0 -- TELEMARKET-AS OOO TELEMARKET 15 - AS8011 3189 0.2% 637.8 -- AS8011 - CoreComm Internet Services Inc 16 - AS32777 2446 0.2% 611.5 -- SMART-CITY-FORT-WORTH - Smart City Networks, L.P. 17 - AS51372 605 0.0% 605.0 -- ORANGE-AS Orange Ltd. 18 - AS50733 552 0.0% 552.0 -- BINA-AS Ertebat Gostaran Bina 19 - AS6316 25314 1.8% 550.3 -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. 20 - AS38528 497 0.0% 497.0 -- LANIC-AS-AP Lao National Internet Committee TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 202.92.235.0/24 14361 0.9% AS9498 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd. 2 - 130.36.34.0/24 12843 0.8% AS32528 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 3 - 130.36.35.0/24 12843 0.8% AS32528 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs 4 - 206.80.93.0/24 11767 0.8% AS16916 -- NETLOGIC-WEST - INFINIPLEX LLC DBA NETLOGIC 5 - 66.248.104.0/21 10830 0.7% AS6316 -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. 6 - 66.248.120.0/21 10829 0.7% AS6316 -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. 7 - 77.87.117.0/24 9388 0.6% AS51281 -- COUNTRY-TELECOM-AS Country Telekom CJSC 8 - 213.16.48.0/24 7142 0.5% AS8866 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc. 9 - 180.180.249.0/24 6299 0.4% AS38040 -- GLOBAL-TRANSIT-TOT-IIG-TH TOT Public Company Limited 10 - 180.180.255.0/24 5720 0.4% AS38040 -- GLOBAL-TRANSIT-TOT-IIG-TH TOT Public Company Limited 11 - 156.152.33.0/24 5512 0.3% AS71 -- HP-INTERNET-AS Hewlett-Packard Company 12 - 180.180.248.0/24 5219 0.3% AS38040 -- GLOBAL-TRANSIT-TOT-IIG-TH TOT Public Company Limited 13 - 180.180.253.0/24 5218 0.3% AS38040 -- GLOBAL-TRANSIT-TOT-IIG-TH TOT Public Company Limited 14 - 180.180.250.0/24 5216 0.3% AS38040 -- GLOBAL-TRANSIT-TOT-IIG-TH TOT Public Company Limited 15 - 66.248.96.0/21 3518 0.2% AS6316 -- AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. 16 - 202.153.174.0/24 3226 0.2% AS17408 -- ABOVE-AS-AP AboveNet Communications Taiwan 17 - 202.41.70.0/24 3108 0.2% AS2697 -- ERX-ERNET-AS Education and Research Network 18 - 202.151.7.0/24 2464 0.2% AS17425 -- EPA-AS-TH Provincial Electricity Authority of Thailand. 19 - 202.151.6.0/24 2463 0.2% AS17425 -- EPA-AS-TH Provincial Electricity Authority of Thailand. 20 - 202.151.5.0/24 2460 0.2% AS17425 -- EPA-AS-TH Provincial Electricity Authority of Thailand. Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)nanog.org eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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13 years ago today - October 16, 1998...
by Rodney Joffe 16 Oct '11

16 Oct '11

we lost Jon. It feels like just yesterday. http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html

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Re: [Nanog] Ballot Confirmation
by Randy Epstein 16 Oct '11

16 Oct '11

On 10/15/11 11:21 PM, "Randy Epstein" <repstein(a)hostleasing.net> wrote: >Betty, > >I believe there was a problem with the voting system this past election. >Proposed amendment 1, which I voted NO on, did not register. It does not >show a vote in the ballot confirmation email (well, it just doesn't say >what I did), but I know I voted NO. Further, what makes this even more >suspicious is that 0 people voted no on this one, yet 8 voted no on the >2nd. Yet, the yes votes on both were 79 and 78 respectively. > >Results: > >Member structure ratification >79 yes > >0 no > > >Committee Structure Simplification Rationale >78 yes > >8 no > > > > > > > > > >Can anyone investigate this? I'm just concerned that there might be a >problem in the future, and I'd like to find out what happened here. > >Regards, > >Randy > >On 10/9/11 11:15 PM, "Nanog" <help(a)www.nanog.org> wrote: > >>Ballot Cast: Bylaw Changes >>Cast by: Randy Epstein >> >>1. Membership structure ratification >>Rationale: >>The membership structure as specified in the original bylaws made a lot >>of people unhappy, so the board used its power to temporarily amend the >>bylaws to institute the now-current membership structure, under which >>all >>current NANOG voters have become members. That amendment now needs to >>be >>ratified by the membership, to avoid the membership structure reverting >>to its previous state. >> >>Proposal: >>That the membership ratify the bylaw amendment enacted by the Board on >>January 4, 2011, establishing the now-current NANOG membership >>structure. >> >> >>The amendment is as follows: >>- Replace the current section 5 in its entirety with: >> >>5. Membership >> >>5.1 Membership Qualifications - Membership in NewNOG is open to any >>individual with an interest in Internet operations, engineering, or >>research and who wishes to further education and knowledge sharing >>within >>the Internet operations community. Any individual may become a member of >>NewNOG by completing an application and payment of dues. >> >>5.2 Membership Classes - There shall be only one class of membership, >>with all the rights and privileges specified in these Bylaws. >> >>5.3 Membership Dues - The Board of Directors shall specify the cost of >>annual membership dues. The Board may establish discounts for members >>meeting certain criteria, or for members wishing to pay for more than >>one >>year in advance. >> >>5.4 Rights and Benefits of Members - Members in good standing shall be >>entitled to these privileges: >> >>* Vote in all NewNOG elections. * Run as a candidate for the Board >>of Directors * Serve on an administrative committee, as defined in >>section 9 * Other privileges as specified by the Board of Directors >> >>5.5 Policies and Procedures - The Board of Directors shall establish and >>publish policies and procedures for implementation of the membership >>program. >> >> >> 2. Committee Structure Simplification >>Rationale: >>Substantial portions of the roles of the Event Logistics committee and >>the Budget and Finance committee are now being carried out by the >>Executive Director and staff, with oversight by the Treasurer and other >>board members. This amendment eliminates the permanent status of those >>committees, and allows the board discretion to create new ad hoc >>committees as needs change. >> >>The amendment would: >> >>- Eliminate the finance and event committees as standing committees >>- Allow the board to create other ad-hoc committees as needed to perform >>specific tasks >>- Clarify that all committee chairs are given non-voting ex-officio >>seats >>on the board, which are not counted towards a quorum >>- Fix a few other minor language issues and typos >> >>Proposal: >>- In section 8.6, replace the text "at least four members" with "at >>least >>four voting members". >> >>- Replace section 9 introductory text with: >>The Board of Directors will create three standing committees to fulfill >>the NewNOG mission. Those committees will be the Program Committee, the >>Communication Committee, and the Membership and Development Committee. >>The Board may also at its discretion create ad hoc committees to carry >>out other functions as needed. All members of committees must be >>Members >>in Good Standing of NewNOG. >>The chairperson of each committee will serve ex officio in a non-voting >>role on the Board of Directors, in order to facilitate communication >>between the groups. >> >>- In section 9.1.2, replace the word "Council" with "Committee". >> >>- In section 9.2.3, replace the misspelled word "Acceptible" with >>"Acceptable". >> >>- In section 9.2.5, delete the sentence: >> >> >>The chairperson of the Communications Committee will serve ex officio in >>a non-voting role on the Board of Directors, in order to facilitate >>communication between the two groups. >> >>- In section 9.3.1, delete the sentence: >> >>The chairperson of the Membership and Development Committee will serve >>ex >>officio in a non-voting role on the Board of Directors, in order to >>facilitate communication between the two groups. >> >>- Replace section 9.4 with: >> >>9.4 Ad Hoc Committees >> >>The Board of Directors may from time to time create ad hoc committees >>and >>appoint members as needed to carry out specific functions. >> >>- Delete section 9.5. >> >>- In section 10.3.2, delete the sentence: >> >>The Chair of the Program Committee will serve ex officio in a non-voting >>role on the Board of Directors, in order to facilitate communication >>between the two groups. >> Not Approve >>

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RE: Apple updates - Effect on network
by Chad Burnham 16 Oct '11

16 Oct '11

HI, Our GigaPOP (Front Range GigaPOP) and our own Akamai cache server's traffic jumped significantly today. The theory (no data) is the Apple updates released today. Chad Burnham University of Denver -----Original Message----- From: Zachary McGibbon [mailto:zachary.mcgibbon+nanog@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:10 PM To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Apple updates - Affect on network With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern. Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks? [image: image.png] .

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Re: OT: ISPs in Brazil and Chile (Luis Palma)
by Rafael de Oliveira Ribeiro 16 Oct '11

16 Oct '11

----- Original Message ----- > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:35:35 +0000 > From: Jeff Cartier <Jeff.Cartier(a)pernod-ricard.com> > To: "nanog(a)nanog.org" <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: OT: ISPs in Brazil and Chile > Message-ID: > <6EDE133FF50DBA4B963028BD5CD690DD368B24(a)CAPRGWLKWEMBX1.pernod-ricard.group> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Group, > > A little off topic, but I was looking for a recommendation on an ISP > in both Brazil and Chile. (...) Some ISPs in Brazil include: - Oi; - Telefonica; - Intelig (Telecom Italia group); - CTBC; - GVT; - Embratel (Telmex group) - caveat: they don't peer! - Global Crossing, - et cetera. Chances are that Oi, CTBC and GVT will not be present in Chile, though. While evaluating your ISP, check the PTT-SP roster [1] to see if the ISP has the tick mark on the column "ATM" (MLPA, in Portuguese) - for peering purposes. [1] - Biggest IXP in Brazil, http://sp.ptt.br/particip.html Best regards, -- Rafael de Oliveira Ribeiro DAERO - Gerencia de Operacoes RNP - Rede Nacional de Ensino e Pesquisa Tel.: +55 21 2102 9659 - iNOC: 1916*767

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Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to
by Lynda 15 Oct '11

15 Oct '11

I see that someone has instructed Mailman to munge the reply-to. Please don't do that. I was about to make a *private* reply to someone, and realized that the setting had changed, and that I was trapped into replying to the list. Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps only on Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm doing the public service of pointing it out, while asking that it be adjusted back. -- Last week we lost a giant in the world of computing. Last weekend we lost the giant on whose shoulders he stood. Rest in peace, friend. (Tim Pierce, on the deaths of Dennis Ritchie and Steve Jobs)

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