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Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?
by William Herrin 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Andy Koch <gawul00(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:56, William Herrin <bill(a)herrin.us> wrote: >> 100 miles isn't a serious logistics problem with 500 gallons of fuel >> tank in the bed of a pickup truck. That buys you 8-12 hours for 100 >> fiber huts with $500 gasoline generators before you send the next crew >> for more. > > Your expectations are way off here. With a 100 mile drive, even > if that is round trip mileage, you can expect that trip to exceed > 5 hours not including waiting in line to fuel up. Then when you > return, distribution can take well over 3 hours, meaning that > some locations will not get refueled before they run out. Then one group is on the gas run, fetching 500 gallons to a staging location while another group is on genset runs, topping the tanks of with the fetched gas. Or hey, if you're prepared then you have a contract in place with an oil company to divert one of the 9,000 gallon tank trucks from the non-functional local gas stations to your local distribution site. Then base your genset fueling runs from there. Few thousand bucks ahead of time to set up a box at the edge of one of your parking lots that can connect to the tanker's standard hose and pump gas. >> Hell, local Verizon couldn't even keep the 911 center online. Both it >> and its backup collapsed. > >So, rather than focus on repairing 911, you want these technicians >to drive for hours and distribute gasoline to keep your home data >service running? The E911 facility was supposed to be five nines. You don't get five nines with a focus on repair, you get it with prevention. This year Verizon'll achieve two nines. That's shameful. Shameful! I don't expect five nines from my residential Internet service. But I think two nines on the last mile cable and three nines on the aggregation system is a reasonable expectation for a primary first-world suburban communications service. It wasn't achieved. > Does the spider web of cables include power distribution? > If not, why the exception? If so, why not ostracize them > for failing to keep power to the "critical infrastructure" > in your neighborhood? Dominion can't seem to keep my local substation powered. Not my house per se, but the substation serving 611 power customers. They've missed 3 nines for at least 6 of the last 10 years without a single tree over the lines between me and the substation. And that's the last I'm going to say about it here because this isn't a forum for discussing the power companies' operational failures. It is, however, a forum for discussing network providers' operational failures. On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Nathan Eisenberg <nathan(a)atlasnetworks.us> wrote: >> Residences aren't critical infrastructure, no matter how angry the owners get. > > 911 access isn't a critical service? Fire and security panels aren't critical services? > If basic life safety and property protection aren't critical services, I'm not sure what is. Whether each individual's residence contains critical infrastructure is a decision best left up to that individual. By necessity that makes the upstream aggregation components critical infrastructure. No different than it was for POTS 20 years ago. The Internet isn't just a toy any more. It's the primary communications channel in to many folks homes and well on its way to becoming the primary channel period. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin(a)dirtside.com bill(a)herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004

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IETF contacts? - Fwd: Reference to historic or obsolated RFCs
by Livio Zanol Puppim 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Hello guys, I've sent the e-mail below to IETF, but I couldn't find a contact e-mail to address this kind of subject in IETF site. Does anybody knows which e-mail to send this? The contact page from IETF website: http://www.ietf.org/contact-the-ietf.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Livio Zanol Puppim <livio.zanol.puppim(a)gmail.com> Date: 2012/8/6 Subject: Reference to historic or obsolated RFCs To: ietf-info(a)ietf.org, ietf-action(a)ietf.org Hello, I don't know which contact to send this e-mail, so I'm copying the INFO and ACTION e-mail... If these are the wrong contact, can you please point me the correct e-mail? Reading the *RFC 5375* I've found references to some RFCs that are considered Historic, or have been updated. In some cases, this can lead to a misunderstand of a a section in a RFC. For example: The* RFC 5375* in section *B.2.2* states that we should avoid using /127 IPv6 prefix, but* RFC 6164* clearly says that we can use /127 prefix for Inter-Router links. In fact, the *RFC 6547*, moves the *RFC 3627*(referenced by the * RFC 5375* in the above section) to Historic status. If my point of view is indeed correct, I think that everytime a new RFC is published that proposes an *Update* to another RFC, or *Obsoletes* another RFC or moves a RFC to *Historic *status, the team responsible for it's creation needs to read every reference to that RFC and request changes in order to avoid this kind of misunderstanding. This is very important to guys like me, that only reads the RFCs. the section from RFC 5375 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5375#appendix-B.2.2 " B.2.2 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5375#appendix-B.2.2>. /127 Addresses The usage of the /127 addresses, the equivalent of IPv4's RFC 3021 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3021> [RFC3021 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3021>], is not valid and should be strongly discouraged as documented in RFC 3627 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3627> [RFC3627 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3627>]. " -- []'s Lívio Zanol Puppim -- []'s Lívio Zanol Puppim

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IPv6 End User Fee
by Otis L. Surratt, Jr. 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Anyone charging end users for IPv6 space yet? :p Just wondering, with so many IPv6 resources in a single allocation it would seem difficult to charge anything at all. 1. How are you making up loss of revenue on IPv4 assignments? 2. Are you charging anything? 3. Is the cost built into the service? 4. Do you assign IPv6 space to end user and charge admin fee? Take care, Otis

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Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?
by Peter Kristolaitis 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

My point is more along the line of if you're depending on a service which provides only best-effort on uptime (as Bill Herrin mentioned, some providers can barely manage 2 nines of 911 uptime) and to which you're connected by a single, fault-prone connection, and which provides no guarantee of service even if you CAN contact them, calling it "critical" is kind of a joke, and you'd probably get laughed at by a risk analyst. If you're serious about protecting health and home, you'd better have some other plan in place that doesn't have a ridiculous number of single points of failure. Pete Owen DeLong <owen(a)delong.com> wrote: >I've never met a dog properly trained in ACLS and I'm pretty sure that a gun isn't even useful for BLS. > >Owen > >On Aug 4, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d(a)alter3d.ca> wrote: > >> Considering that none of the services that can be dispatched by 911 are legally required to help you in most North American jurisdictions (i.e. if you call 911 and the police don't respond until they finish eating their box of donuts, they're not criminally or civilly liable), having working 911 services really doesn't guarantee you anything. Most security monitoring companies have contracts that are completely worthless and guarantee nothing as well. >> >> If you're depending on 911 for life safety and property protection, I'd recommend revising that plan to include a dog and/or gun. :-) >> >> - Pete >> >> >> >> Nathan Eisenberg <nathan(a)atlasnetworks.us> wrote: >> >>>> Residences aren't critical infrastructure, no matter how angry the owners get. >>> >>> 911 access isn't a critical service? Fire and security panels aren't critical services? >>> >>> If basic life safety and property protection aren't critical services, I'm not sure what is. These are peoples' lives and families and homes. There is nothing - repeat, nothing - more important than that. It is absolutely a critical service. >>> >>> Nathan Eisenberg >>> >>> >

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RE: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?
by Peter Kristolaitis 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

Considering that none of the services that can be dispatched by 911 are legally required to help you in most North American jurisdictions (i.e. if you call 911 and the police don't respond until they finish eating their box of donuts, they're not criminally or civilly liable), having working 911 services really doesn't guarantee you anything. Most security monitoring companies have contracts that are completely worthless and guarantee nothing as well. If you're depending on 911 for life safety and property protection, I'd recommend revising that plan to include a dog and/or gun. :-) - Pete Nathan Eisenberg <nathan(a)atlasnetworks.us> wrote: >> Residences aren't critical infrastructure, no matter how angry the owners get. > >911 access isn't a critical service? Fire and security panels aren't critical services? > >If basic life safety and property protection aren't critical services, I'm not sure what is. These are peoples' lives and families and homes. There is nothing - repeat, nothing - more important than that. It is absolutely a critical service. > >Nathan Eisenberg > >

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[NANOG-announce] Announcing the October 2012 NANOG Elections
by Sylvie LaPerriere 04 Aug '12

04 Aug '12

*Hello NANOGers! This message is to encourage you, as a participant of this community, to become NANOG members and to consider standing for a leadership position at our upcoming October elections. The call for Board members nominations will be from August 20 to October 1 and for committee members from Sept 17 to October 23. We wanted to provide you now with the election process preview. It’s posted at http://www.nanog.org/governance/elections/2012elections/ and we’ll make announcements at every step. Why should you become a NANOG member? One Member = One Voter = One Eligible Candidate Candidate and Voter eligibility are opened to every ‘member in good standing’. You may never have attended a conference but as an active reader and poster on our mailing lists, you contribute to the knowledge of this community. Becoming a NANOG member gives you the right to stand for a position and to vote in October. You can join at http://www.nanog.org/membership_main.html. What is expected of Committee Candidates? How many vacant positions? In Vancouver, we announced that the current leadership was documenting the roles, responsibilities and expectations placed on each position. We trust you will find the following useful. Candidates will be appointed Committee members by the newly elected Board next October. * 8 vacancies: Program Committee Member http://www.nanog.org/governance/PC_Responsibilities.pdf * 2 vacancies: Communications Committee Member http://www.nanog.org/governance/CC_Responsibilities.pdf * 2 vacancies: Development Committee Member http://www.nanog.org/governance/DC_Responsibilities.pdf <https://www.nanog.org/governance/elections/2012elections/2012_Declaration_o…> What is expected of a Board Candidate? How many vacant positions? Read the Board Member Responsibilities and NANOG by-laws for a complete understanding of the expectations placed on Board Members. Board Member http://www.nanog.org/governance/BOD_Responsibilities.pdf NANOG By-laws http://www.nanog.org/governance/documents/By-Laws_20110104.pdf To ensure continuity on the Board, three seats out of six become open each year due to the expiration of 2-year terms. The Board members whose terms are expiring in October are: * Patrick Gilmore * Daniel Golding * Michael K. Smith Patrick has served two 2-year terms and cannot be considered for re-electionuntil October 2013 (one year leave). Daniel is completing the term vacated in June 2012 and he can stand for re-election. Michael is completing the term vacated in August 2011 and he can stand for re-election. How do you Nominate? You can self-nominate. You care about NANOG’s governance and want to take a turn at volunteering your time and expertise to help make it better. 1. Make sure you are a NANOG member in good standing 2. Submit your Declaration of Candidacy to elections(a)nanog.org. You can nominate others. 1. Send their contact information to elections(a)nanog.org 2. If they accept the nomination, they will be asked to become a NANOG member in good standing 3. They will have to submit their Declaration of Candidacy to elections(a)nanog.org. As NANOG continues to evolve, our Board and our Committees will continue to play an increasingly important role in our success. We thank you in advance for becoming NANOG members and taking an active part in our governance. Best regards, Sylvie, on behalf of the NANOG Board of Directors * -- Sylvie LaPerriere NANOG Board Chair - www.nanog.org _______________________________________________ NANOG-announce mailing list NANOG-announce(a)nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce

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US House to ITU: Hands off the Internet
by Patrick W. Gilmore 04 Aug '12

04 Aug '12

[Feels operational to me.] <http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/260299/us_house_to_itu_hands_…> The U.S. House of Representatives voted late Thursday to send a message to the United Nations' International Telecommunication Union that the Internet doesn't need new international regulations. The vote was unanimous: 414-0 Unanimous? I didn't think this congress could agree the earth is round unanimously. -- TTFN, patrick

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BGP Update Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

BGP Update Report Interval: 26-Jul-12 -to- 02-Aug-12 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS5800 54239 3.2% 205.5 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05800-06055 - DoD Network Information Center 2 - AS8402 45483 2.7% 47.2 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom" 3 - AS9829 33335 1.9% 40.9 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 4 - AS24560 30641 1.8% 48.3 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 5 - AS17813 24694 1.4% 239.7 -- MTNL-AP Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. 6 - AS7552 23873 1.4% 21.4 -- VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel Corporation 7 - AS13118 19067 1.1% 1121.6 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 8 - AS1637 18305 1.1% 254.2 -- DNIC-AS-01637 - Headquarters, USAISC 9 - AS27065 18027 1.1% 130.6 -- DNIC-ASBLK-27032-27159 - DoD Network Information Center 10 - AS27738 17548 1.0% 31.2 -- Ecuadortelecom S.A. 11 - AS174 14961 0.9% 7.1 -- COGENT Cogent/PSI 12 - AS17974 14924 0.9% 8.4 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 13 - AS7029 12849 0.8% 6.5 -- WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc 14 - AS28573 11418 0.7% 8.5 -- NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A. 15 - AS13979 10622 0.6% 3.4 -- ATT-IPFR - AT&T Services, Inc. 16 - AS21599 10553 0.6% 3517.7 -- NETDIRECT S.A. 17 - AS45609 10305 0.6% 73.1 -- BHARTI-MOBILITY-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd. AS for GPRS Service 18 - AS1502 10103 0.6% 140.3 -- DNIC-ASBLK-01500-01502 - Headquarters, USAISC 19 - AS1562 9890 0.6% 341.0 -- DNIC-ASBLK-01550-01601 - DoD Network Information Center 20 - AS11492 9827 0.6% 42.9 -- CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC. TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name 1 - AS16535 7104 0.4% 7104.0 -- ECHOS-3 - Echostar Holding Purchasing Corporation 2 - AS19406 4284 0.2% 4284.0 -- TWRS-MA - Towerstream I, Inc. 3 - AS21599 10553 0.6% 3517.7 -- NETDIRECT S.A. 4 - AS55534 2715 0.2% 2715.0 -- PPL-PK 4th Floor, PIDC House 5 - AS6197 2565 0.1% 2565.0 -- BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc 6 - AS36329 2276 0.1% 2276.0 -- INTRADO - Intrado, Inc. 7 - AS37343 9651 0.6% 1930.2 -- AirtelSeychelles 8 - AS44410 4601 0.3% 1533.7 -- ENTEKHAB-AS ENTEKHAB INDUSTRIAL GROUP 9 - AS13118 19067 1.1% 1121.6 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 10 - AS36938 995 0.1% 995.0 -- NIRA 11 - AS1273 5448 0.3% 908.0 -- CW Cable and Wireless Worldwide plc 12 - AS38857 1580 0.1% 790.0 -- ESOFT-TRANSIT-AS-AP e.Soft Technologies Ltd. 13 - AS39214 1194 0.1% 597.0 -- COMINTECH Institute of Comunication and Information Technology 14 - AS6410 593 0.0% 593.0 -- ASICOM - ASI COMMUNICATIONS 15 - AS8382 1156 0.1% 578.0 -- IRTEL-AS Irkutsk Central Telegraph autonomous system 16 - AS49072 547 0.0% 547.0 -- APSUARA-AS TCA Apsuara Ltd. 17 - AS22767 1087 0.1% 543.5 -- NASA-ESDIS-NET - National Aeronautics and Space Administration 18 - AS55665 1019 0.1% 509.5 -- STMI-AS-ID PT Sampoerna Telemedia Indonesia 19 - AS29398 484 0.0% 484.0 -- PETROBALTIC "Petrobaltic" S.A. 20 - AS48068 476 0.0% 476.0 -- VISONIC Visonic Ltd TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 109.161.64.0/19 18909 1.0% AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom 2 - 122.161.0.0/16 11193 0.6% AS24560 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 3 - 182.64.0.0/16 10861 0.6% AS24560 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 4 - 200.46.0.0/19 10547 0.6% AS21599 -- NETDIRECT S.A. 5 - 41.79.63.0/24 9620 0.5% AS37343 -- AirtelSeychelles AS45609 -- BHARTI-MOBILITY-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd. AS for GPRS Service 6 - 41.79.62.0/24 9619 0.5% AS37343 -- AirtelSeychelles AS45609 -- BHARTI-MOBILITY-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd. AS for GPRS Service 7 - 67.47.194.0/23 7104 0.4% AS16535 -- ECHOS-3 - Echostar Holding Purchasing Corporation 8 - 59.177.48.0/20 6538 0.4% AS17813 -- MTNL-AP Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. 9 - 202.56.215.0/24 6207 0.3% AS24560 -- AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services 10 - 123.252.208.0/24 5753 0.3% AS17762 -- HTIL-TTML-IN-AP Tata Teleservices Maharashtra Ltd 11 - 139.139.19.0/24 5752 0.3% AS1562 -- DNIC-ASBLK-01550-01601 - DoD Network Information Center 12 - 194.63.9.0/24 5430 0.3% AS1273 -- CW Cable and Wireless Worldwide plc 13 - 69.38.178.0/24 4284 0.2% AS19406 -- TWRS-MA - Towerstream I, Inc. 14 - 59.177.64.0/18 3323 0.2% AS17813 -- MTNL-AP Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. 15 - 59.177.144.0/20 2954 0.2% AS17813 -- MTNL-AP Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. 16 - 78.111.6.0/23 2738 0.1% AS44410 -- ENTEKHAB-AS ENTEKHAB INDUSTRIAL GROUP 17 - 202.52.32.0/24 2715 0.1% AS55534 -- PPL-PK 4th Floor, PIDC House 18 - 65.82.30.0/24 2565 0.1% AS6197 -- BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc 19 - 115.170.128.0/17 2499 0.1% AS4847 -- CNIX-AP China Networks Inter-Exchange 20 - 64.58.53.0/24 2276 0.1% AS36329 -- INTRADO - Intrado, Inc. Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)nanog.org eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 3 21:13:03 2012 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 27-07-12 421258 243452 28-07-12 421509 243642 29-07-12 421732 243605 30-07-12 421263 243951 31-07-12 421699 244653 01-08-12 423193 244312 02-08-12 423313 244418 03-08-12 423749 244407 AS Summary 41805 Number of ASes in routing system 17447 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 3444 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7029 : WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc 114212832 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 03Aug12 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 423734 244478 179256 42.3% All ASes AS6389 3343 194 3149 94.2% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. AS28573 2026 63 1963 96.9% NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A. AS17974 2291 437 1854 80.9% TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia AS7029 3444 1772 1672 48.5% WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc AS18566 2088 417 1671 80.0% COVAD - Covad Communications Co. AS4766 2765 1296 1469 53.1% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS10620 2036 608 1428 70.1% Telmex Colombia S.A. AS4323 1580 389 1191 75.4% TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc. AS1785 1947 818 1129 58.0% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. AS22773 1699 576 1123 66.1% ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC - Cox Communications Inc. AS4755 1604 541 1063 66.3% TATACOMM-AS TATA Communications formerly VSNL is Leading ISP AS7303 1459 445 1014 69.5% Telecom Argentina S.A. AS7552 1128 227 901 79.9% VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel Corporation AS6458 881 48 833 94.6% Telgua AS8151 1475 669 806 54.6% Uninet S.A. de C.V. AS18101 941 158 783 83.2% RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN Reliance Communications Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI AS4808 1122 355 767 68.4% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network AS9394 910 167 743 81.6% CRNET CHINA RAILWAY Internet(CRNET) AS13977 839 123 716 85.3% CTELCO - FAIRPOINT COMMUNICATIONS, INC. AS15557 1215 552 663 54.6% LDCOMNET Societe Francaise du Radiotelephone S.A AS2118 664 14 650 97.9% RELCOM-AS OOO "NPO Relcom" AS855 684 52 632 92.4% CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant Regional Communications, Inc. AS3356 1106 474 632 57.1% LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications AS17676 699 75 624 89.3% GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp. AS22561 1025 414 611 59.6% DIGITAL-TELEPORT - Digital Teleport Inc. AS19262 1001 403 598 59.7% VZGNI-TRANSIT - Verizon Online LLC AS24560 1038 449 589 56.7% AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services AS4780 812 242 570 70.2% SEEDNET Digital United Inc. AS30036 1432 868 564 39.4% MEDIACOM-ENTERPRISE-BUSINESS - Mediacom Communications Corp AS3549 998 437 561 56.2% GBLX Global Crossing Ltd. Total 44252 13283 30969 70.0% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 5.178.24.0/21 AS21191 ASN-SEVERTTK Closed Joint Stock Company "SeverTransTeleCom" 10.86.64.32/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.86.64.36/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.86.65.32/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.86.65.36/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.255.255.0/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.255.255.4/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 10.255.255.8/30 AS65530 -Private Use AS- 14.192.0.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.4.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.8.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.12.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.16.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.20.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.24.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 14.192.28.0/22 AS45464 NEXTWEB-AS-AP Room 201, TGU Bldg 27.112.114.0/24 AS23884 PROENNET-AS Proimage Engineering and Communication Co.,Ltd. 41.207.224.0/23 AS36898 UNINET AfricaINX created auth-num for AS36898 41.207.238.0/23 AS36898 UNINET AfricaINX created auth-num for AS36898 41.222.80.0/21 AS37110 moztel-as 41.223.108.0/22 AS36966 EDL_AS Edgenet AS 62.61.220.0/24 AS24974 TACHYON-EU Tachyon Europe BV 62.61.221.0/24 AS24974 TACHYON-EU Tachyon Europe BV 64.66.32.0/20 AS18864 66.171.32.0/20 AS705 UUNET - MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business 66.180.239.0/24 AS35888 VIGNETTE - VIGNETTE CORPORATION 66.207.32.0/20 AS23011 66.245.176.0/20 AS19318 NJIIX-AS-1 - NEW JERSEY INTERNATIONAL INTERNET EXCHANGE LLC 66.251.128.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.133.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.134.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.136.0/21 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.140.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.141.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.142.0/24 AS33227 BLUEBRIDGE-NETWORKS - Blue Bridge Networks 66.251.143.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 69.46.224.0/20 AS32592 HUNT-BROTHERS-OF-LOUISIANA-LLC - Hunt Brothers 69.46.233.0/24 AS32592 HUNT-BROTHERS-OF-LOUISIANA-LLC - Hunt Brothers 69.46.236.0/24 AS32592 HUNT-BROTHERS-OF-LOUISIANA-LLC - Hunt Brothers 70.34.112.0/20 AS27589 MOJOHOST - MOJOHOST 71.19.134.0/23 AS3313 INET-AS BT Italia S.p.A. 72.35.224.0/22 AS30097 NUWAVE - NuWave 72.35.229.0/24 AS30188 TELEVERGENCE - Televergence Solutions Inc. 72.35.232.0/21 AS30097 NUWAVE - NuWave 72.44.16.0/20 AS15054 HAMELTRONICS - Hameltronics, LLC 74.91.48.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.49.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.50.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.51.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.52.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.53.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.54.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.55.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.56.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.57.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.58.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.59.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.60.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.61.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - Sea Broadband, LLC 74.91.62.0/24 AS30137 SEA-BROADBAND - 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Pilosoft, Inc. 216.21.160.0/20 AS27876 American Data Networks 216.146.0.0/19 AS11915 TELWEST-NETWORK-SVCS-STATIC - TEL WEST COMMUNICATIONS LLC 216.194.160.0/20 AS27876 American Data Networks Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)nanog.org eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org

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Re: US House to ITU: Hands off the Internet
by John Curran 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

On Aug 3, 2012, at 5:09 PM, bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 08:47:30PM +0000, John Curran wrote: >> In this case, I believe that the message is now quite clear... > > Its just the house.... :) But I suspect Terry & delegation will take note. Actually, I believe that the message originated with the Administration (i.e. NTIA, State ala Ambr Verveer and Ambr Kramer, and WH/OSTP) and we are seeing the endorsement by the House of that proposed approach. (For specific details, I would refer to Ambr Kramers remarks from earlier this week at the ITIC <http://www.state.gov/e/eb/rls/rm/2012/196035.htm>) FYi, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

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