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AWS WAF list
by Justin H. 21 Feb '24

21 Feb '24

Hello, We found out recently that we are on the HostingProviderIPList (found here https://docs.aws.amazon.com/waf/latest/developerguide/aws-managed-rule-grou…) at AWS and it's affecting our customers' access to various websites. We are a datacenter, and a hosting provider, but we have plenty of enterprise customers with eyeballs. We're finding it difficult to find a technical contact that we can reach since we're not an AWS customer. Does anyone have a contact or advice on a solution? Thank you, Justin H.

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NANOG 90 Attendance?
by Mike Hammett 20 Feb '24

20 Feb '24

I haven't been to a NANOG meeting in a while. While going through the attendee list for NANOG 90 to try to book meetings with people, I noticed a lack of (or extremely minimal) attendance by several organizations that have traditionally had several employees attend. I've also noticed that some organizations I had an interest in were only sending sales people, not technical people. How long has this been a thing? I remember when I attended years ago that there simply wasn't enough time to meet with technical people from all of the organizations I wanted to meet with. Now the calendar is looking a bit dry. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com

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EU Gigabit Infrastructure Act agreement - in-building infrastructure access
by Sean Donelan 20 Feb '24

20 Feb '24

While I'm still asking a builder in the USA about pre-wiring new construction house .... The EU has included in-building infrastructure and fiber ready requirements in its new Gigabit Infrastructure act. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2024/02/06/gigabit-… e) In-building physical infrastructure and fibre wiring, the “fibre-ready” label and certification schemes 18. To ensure a swift deployment of VHCN, allowing citizens to enjoy fast connectivity services, new and majorly renovated buildings shall be pre-equipped with fibre and fibreready infrastructure. In order to implement this provision, standards have to be developed and adopted under Article 8(4). Member States shall ensure compliance with this provision and must have procedures in place, to verify whether the buildings are equipped according to these standards. 19. Applying the ‘fibre-ready’ label in Article 8(5) and (6) has become optional for the Member States. The certification is not any more a pre-requisite to issuing a building permit.

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Peering Contact at AS16509
by Peter Potvin 20 Feb '24

20 Feb '24

If a contact who manages North American peering at AS16509 could reach out off-list, that would be appreciated. Myself and a few colleagues have attempted to reach out via the contacts listed on PeeringDB on multiple occasions over the last couple of months and have not been successful in reaching someone. Kind regards, Peter Potvin

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The Reg does 240/4
by Jay R. Ashworth 19 Feb '24

19 Feb '24

I know we had a thread on this last month, but I can't remember what it was titled. ElReg has done a civilian-level backgrounder on the 240/4 issue, for anyone who wants to read and scoff at it. :-) https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/09/240_4_ipv4_block_activism/ Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra(a)baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274

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Roku Network Contact
by Jason Canady 19 Feb '24

19 Feb '24

Does anyone here have a network contact for Roku? Need some assistance. Thank you! Best Regards, Jason

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Seeking Contact From AS6079
by Aaron Atac 17 Feb '24

17 Feb '24

Hi, Appreciate if someone from AS6079 could reach me off-list. Thanks, Aaron

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dnssec keytrap vuln
by Dave Taht 17 Feb '24

17 Feb '24

Really long list of fixed dns servers here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bwoodcock_a-bunch-of-really-hard-work-over-t… -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

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Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report
by Routing Table Analysis Role Account 16 Feb '24

16 Feb '24

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Global IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG UKNOF, TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net. For historical data, please see https://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfsinoz(a)gmail.com>. IPv4 Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 17 Feb, 2024 BGP Table (Global) as seen in Japan. Report Website: https://thyme.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: https://thyme.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 942295 Prefixes after maximum aggregation (per Origin AS): 358047 Deaggregation factor: 2.63 Unique aggregates announced (without unneeded subnets): 457204 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 75421 Prefixes per ASN: 12.49 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 64642 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 26587 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 10779 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 502 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.3 Max AS path length visible: 121 Max AS path prepend of ASN (150315) 116 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 1075 Number of instances of unregistered ASNs: 1085 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 43662 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 35885 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 181653 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 65 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 1 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 515 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 3042124416 Equivalent to 181 /8s, 83 /16s and 34 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 82.2 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 82.2 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 99.6 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 311250 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 251971 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 72931 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.45 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 244695 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 100135 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 13993 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 17.49 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 4233 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1890 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.4 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 121 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 9361 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 774459264 Equivalent to 46 /8s, 41 /16s and 79 /24s APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-64098, 64297-64395, 131072-153913 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 274991 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 123700 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.22 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 279962 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 132230 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 19096 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 14.66 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 6959 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1977 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 3.7 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 25 Number of ARIN region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 4844 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 1269649152 Equivalent to 75 /8s, 173 /16s and 79 /24s ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 62464-63487, 64198-64296, 393216-401308 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 23/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 47/8, 48/8, 50/8, 52/8, 53/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 57/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 100/8, 104/8, 107/8, 108/8, 128/8, 129/8, 130/8, 131/8, 132/8, 134/8, 135/8, 136/8, 137/8, 138/8, 139/8, 140/8, 142/8, 143/8, 144/8, 146/8, 147/8, 148/8, 149/8, 152/8, 155/8, 156/8, 157/8, 158/8, 159/8, 160/8, 161/8, 162/8, 164/8, 165/8, 166/8, 167/8, 168/8, 169/8, 170/8, 172/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 192/8, 198/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 262785 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 125730 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 2.09 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 257444 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 161703 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 28554 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 9.02 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 12101 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 3958 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 4.5 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 37 Number of RIPE region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 11600 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 713518592 Equivalent to 42 /8s, 135 /16s and 110 /24s RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 56320-58367 59392-61439, 61952-62463, 64396-64495 196608-216475 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 5/8, 25/8, 31/8, 37/8, 46/8, 51/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 141/8, 145/8, 151/8, 176/8, 178/8, 185/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 120961 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 28872 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.19 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 119512 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 49516 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 11049 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 10.82 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 2641 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2400 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.9 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 55 Number of LACNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 8905 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 177947136 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 155 /16s and 66 /24s LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 61440-61951, 64099-64197, 262144-273820 + ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 177/8, 179/8, 181/8, 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 191/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 30512 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 6103 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 5.00 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 40167 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 13192 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1829 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 21.96 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 653 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 352 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.0 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 27 Number of AfriNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1175 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 106250752 Equivalent to 6 /8s, 85 /16s and 66 /24s AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-329727 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 45/8, 102/8, 105/8, 154/8, 196/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 9808 9825 8739 55 CHINAMOBILE-CN China Mobile Communicati 7545 5674 784 681 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 4538 4920 4192 75 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Rese 18403 4570 347 25 FPT-AS-AP FPT Telecom Company, VN 7552 3877 1331 21 VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Group, VN 7713 3592 1043 64 TELKOMNET-AS-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indon 9498 3488 497 252 BBIL-AP BHARTI Airtel Ltd., IN 45899 3290 1872 99 VNPT-AS-VN VNPT Corp, VN 24560 2711 861 373 AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti Airtel Ltd 4766 2301 11258 573 KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom, KR Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 16509 9617 11225 3379 AMAZON-02, US 11492 4581 304 652 CABLEONE, US 7155 4179 288 96 VIASAT-SP-BACKBONE, US 22773 3619 3062 299 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC, US 6327 3596 1320 75 SHAW, CA 16625 3209 1399 2293 AKAMAI-AS, US 749 3183 54927 2435 DNIC-AS-00749, US 174 3013 6637 666 COGENT-174, US 367 2905 3692 1408 DNIC-ASBLK-00306-00371, US 396982 2756 3639 396 GOOGLE-CLOUD-PLATFORM, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 12479 7608 1714 147 UNI2-AS, ES 39891 4658 280 55 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 20940 3881 3396 129 AKAMAI-ASN1, NL 9009 3276 284 1591 M247, RO 12389 2969 2301 905 ROSTELECOM-AS, RU 8551 2652 368 35 BEZEQ-INTERNATIONAL-AS Bezeqint Interne 34984 2348 363 593 TELLCOM-AS, TR 13188 1607 100 26 TRIOLAN, UA 8452 1497 1852 14 TE-AS TE-AS, EG 44477 1484 97 709 STARK-INDUSTRIES, GB Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8151 12397 3389 604 UNINET, MX 10620 3522 496 891 Telmex Colombia S.A., CO 13999 2514 341 645 Mega Cable, S.A. de C.V., MX 11830 2006 369 64 Instituto Costarricense de Electricidad 28573 1325 2319 238 Claro NXT Telecomunicacoes Ltda, BR 3816 1305 787 197 COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES S.A. ESP, C 6503 1213 340 498 Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V., MX 11664 1136 178 426 Techtel LMDS Comunicaciones Interactiva 6147 1087 369 22 Telefonica del Peru S.A.A., PE 22884 1076 116 380 TOTAL PLAY TELECOMUNICACIONES SA DE CV, Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 24835 1547 545 28 RAYA-AS, EG 24863 1530 389 16 LINKdotNET-AS, EG 36992 1361 1519 281 ETISALAT-MISR, EG 36903 1249 554 96 MT-MPLS, MA 29571 1135 73 60 ORANGE-COTE-IVOIRE, CI 36935 935 521 42 Vodafone-, EG 6713 551 1861 34 IAM-AS, MA 36914 540 82 3 KENET-AS, KE 15399 521 55 51 WANANCHI-, KE 37342 486 32 1 MOVITEL, MZ Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8151 12397 3389 604 UNINET, MX 9808 9825 8739 55 CHINAMOBILE-CN China Mobile Communicati 16509 9617 11225 3379 AMAZON-02, US 12479 7608 1714 147 UNI2-AS, ES 7545 5674 784 681 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 4538 4920 4192 75 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Rese 39891 4658 280 55 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 11492 4581 304 652 CABLEONE, US 18403 4570 347 25 FPT-AS-AP FPT Telecom Company, VN 7155 4179 288 96 VIASAT-SP-BACKBONE, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggregation summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 9808 9825 9770 CHINAMOBILE-CN China Mobile Communications Grou 12479 7608 7461 UNI2-AS, ES 16509 9617 6238 AMAZON-02, US 7545 5674 4993 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom Limited, AU 4538 4920 4845 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Net 39891 4658 4603 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 18403 4570 4545 FPT-AS-AP FPT Telecom Company, VN 7155 4179 4083 VIASAT-SP-BACKBONE, US 11492 4581 3929 CABLEONE, US 7552 3877 3856 VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Group, VN Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Net Originated Transit AS Transit AS Name 198821333 UNALLOCATED 5.8.179.0/24 198821 ALKOR-AS, RU 33492 UNALLOCATED 8.6.184.0/23 33650 COMCAST-33650, US 33123 UNALLOCATED 8.10.69.0/24 174 COGENT-174, US 12169 UNALLOCATED 8.15.207.0/24 32787 PROLEXIC-TECHNOLOGIES-DDOS-M 40493 UNALLOCATED 8.17.26.0/24 3356 LEVEL3, US 53775 UNALLOCATED 8.20.88.0/24 7029 WINDSTREAM, US 62828 UNALLOCATED 8.21.130.0/24 3356 LEVEL3, US 393266 UNALLOCATED 8.23.52.0/24 46887 LIGHTOWER, US 396894 UNALLOCATED 8.28.201.0/24 46887 LIGHTOWER, US 394936 UNALLOCATED 8.33.224.0/24 22442 HOU-PHONOSCOPE, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Prefixes from the Special Purpose Address Registry (Global) ----------------------------------------------------------- Prefix Origin AS Description 192.88.99.0/24 6939 HURRICANE, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-spar Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Unassigned Network ASN Information AS Name 23.140.216.0/24 Origin: 27176 DATAWAGON, US 23.140.216.0/24 Transit: 20278 NEXEON, US 23.141.0.0/24 Origin: 395350 RESERVED, ZZ 23.141.0.0/24 Transit: 11426 TWC-11426-CAROLINAS, US 23.164.72.0/24 Origin: 49195 SSAC, CN 23.164.72.0/24 Transit: 20473 AS-CHOOPA, US 23.176.160.0/24 Origin: 397327 RESERVED, ZZ 23.176.160.0/24 Transit: 19108 SUDDENLINK-COMMUNICATIONS, US 23.189.192.0/24 Origin: 27593 RESERVED, ZZ 23.189.192.0/24 Transit: 174 COGENT-174, US Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:16 /9:14 /10:37 /11:98 /12:300 /13:578 /14:1191 /15:2063 /16:13384 /17:8219 /18:13707 /19:24998 /20:44401 /21:51889 /22:110765 /23:99465 /24:570433 /25:737 /26:0 /27:0 /28:0 /29:0 /30:0 /31:0 /32:0 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 12479 6724 7608 UNI2-AS, ES 8151 6393 12397 UNINET, MX 11492 3495 4581 CABLEONE, US 6327 3393 3596 SHAW, CA 39891 3340 4658 ALJAWWALSTC-AS, SA 7155 3123 4179 VIASAT-SP-BACKBONE, US 22773 2655 3619 ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC, US 30036 2144 2487 MEDIACOM-ENTERPRISE-BUSINESS, US 8551 2128 2652 BEZEQ-INTERNATIONAL-AS Bezeqint Internet Backbo 10620 2128 3522 Telmex Colombia S.A., CO Complete listing at https://thyme.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:2320 2:1543 3:296 4:6 5:4481 6:165 7:6 8:1523 9:1 11:172 12:1466 13:384 14:2384 15:311 16:204 17:363 18:731 20:356 21:4 22:188 23:6600 24:2707 25:2 27:2560 29:19 31:2543 32:48 34:38 35:124 36:2163 37:4478 38:6909 39:900 40:141 41:4039 42:2209 43:2330 44:330 45:16894 46:4352 47:287 49:1921 50:1903 51:571 52:1584 54:336 55:879 56:5 57:148 58:2033 59:1207 60:1018 61:2605 62:2679 63:1923 64:5529 65:2326 66:4938 67:3055 68:1333 69:4100 70:1199 71:578 72:2918 74:2655 75:1553 76:632 77:2391 78:1846 79:2467 80:2131 81:1898 82:1520 83:1255 84:1642 85:3095 86:781 87:2220 88:1223 89:3987 90:676 91:7916 92:2182 93:2634 94:3641 95:4065 96:1287 97:313 98:1032 99:744 100:90 101:1168 102:3087 103:32551 104:4752 105:598 106:928 107:2769 108:1132 109:4026 110:2150 111:3214 112:2069 113:1806 114:1765 115:1968 116:1977 117:2639 118:2736 119:1942 120:1812 121:1325 122:2661 123:2222 124:1604 125:2854 126:28 128:1518 129:925 130:1091 131:1834 132:819 133:412 134:1702 135:311 136:923 137:1041 138:2795 139:1552 140:1368 141:1350 142:1563 143:1478 144:1011 145:345 146:2012 147:1703 148:2505 149:2482 150:1025 151:1325 152:1980 153:528 154:5694 155:1367 156:2101 157:1519 158:1095 159:2215 160:2595 161:1633 162:3594 163:1701 164:1626 165:2110 166:1071 167:1713 168:3836 169:796 170:4720 171:1017 172:3829 173:3020 174:902 175:1217 176:3649 177:4541 178:3536 179:2238 180:2358 181:3685 182:3467 183:1985 184:2270 185:20622 186:4851 187:4433 188:4009 189:4087 190:9318 191:1428 192:11007 193:9004 194:7404 195:5265 196:3164 197:2669 198:6018 199:7168 200:8079 201:6318 202:10482 203:10153 204:4555 205:3744 206:4461 207:3523 208:4143 209:4992 210:4639 211:2601 212:4293 213:3402 214:1121 215:44 216:6810 217:2764 218:1364 219:597 220:2053 221:1021 222:874 223:2231 End of report

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Re: The Reg does 240/4
by Christian de Larrinaga 16 Feb '24

16 Feb '24

excuse top posting - I don't see a case for shifting 240/4 into public IP space if it is just going to sustain the rentier sinecures of the existing IPv4 incumbencies. In other words if RIRs don't use it boost new entrants it will just add another knot to the stranglehold we are in vis IPv4. I can see a potential case for shifting it from experimental to private space given the fact that "the rest of us" without public IP space and natted behind CGNATs have taken to use IPv4 for wireguard, containers, zero configs and so on, to tie our various locations, services and applications together within our own private distributed nets and expose our services for public consumption over IPv6. C Christian de Larrinaga Christian Christopher Hawker <chris(a)thesysadmin.au> writes > Hi Denis, > > It will only be burned through if RIR communities change policies to allow for larger delegations than what is > currently in place. I believe that some level of change is possible whilst limiting the exhaustion rate, e.g. allowing > for delegations up to a maximum holding of a /22, however we shouldn't go crazy (for want of a better phrase) > and allow for delegations of a /20, /19 etc. > > If this was only going to give us a potential 1-3 years' worth of space, then I would agree in saying that it is a waste > of time, would take far too long to make the space usable and wouldn't be worth it. However, as long as we don't > get greedy, change the maximum allowed delegation to large delegations, and every Tom/Dick/Harry applying > for a /16 allocation then 240/4 will last us a lengthy amount of time, at least a few decades. > > Regards, > Christopher Hawker > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin.au(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Denis Fondras via NANOG > <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 11:10 PM > To: nanog(a)nanog.org <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: Re: The Reg does 240/4 > > Le Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 03:24:21PM -0800, David Conrad a écrit : >> This doesn’t seem all that positive to me, particularly because it’s temporary >> since the underlying problem (limited resource, unlimited demand) cannot be >> addressed. >> > > I agree with this. > Yet I am in favor of changing the status of 240/4, just so it can get burned > fast, we stop this endless discussion and can start to deploy IPv6 again. > > Denis -- Christian de Larrinaga

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